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Dec 29, 2024
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Blue Heart
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Is this a math question? How does a 2 loss team go 1-3?
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BYU ABSOLUTELY should have been in the playoffs
Bigtimeballer
12/29/24 1:29am
Eh. I'm over it. You should move on too.
byujacob
12/29/24 1:31am
They absolutely did not deserve to be in the playoffs, losing two out of their
44C
12/29/24 6:51am
We just destroyed a co#1 and watched 3 of those teams drop turds vs similar comp
Pretorian
12/29/24 7:30am
I totally agree with you hindsight is 2020
44C
12/29/24 9:26am
Most of us knew this before
Pretorian
12/29/24 4:03pm
We controlled our own destiny is not a great argument.
NYCougz
12/29/24 1:31am
How else would you describe starting 9-0 and then going 1-3 to end the season?
LOLzzz
12/29/24 1:42am
First of all, we didn't go 1-3. So there's that.
byujacob
12/29/24 1:46am
Every team that didn’t win the conference could say the same thing.
NYCougz
12/29/24 1:55am
So if even if we won out (which was ver possible) you don’t think we would have
LOLzzz
12/29/24 2:24am
Of course we would have been. If we went undefeated, we would be in
NYCougz
12/29/24 2:26am
That sounds like the definition controlling one’s destiny to me then…
LOLzzz
12/29/24 9:12am
Yes just like every other team. Every team controls their own destiny.
NYCougz
12/29/24 11:39am
Not every team starts 9-0. That puts you firmly in the drivers seat. Not every
LOLzzz
12/29/24 1:21pm
Every game counts the same. Every team can win their way in.
NYCougz
12/29/24 1:49pm
A 6th win means a lot more than just having 5 wins. Losing 2 of your last three
LOLzzz
12/29/24 2:45pm
No it’s how you lose games early. You should take every game seriously.
NYCougz
12/29/24 2:50pm
And Kansas was red hot and only a 2 pt dog at Provo
NYCougz
12/29/24 2:52pm
Sorry, I must have forgot that they put an astride next to an L saying if it was
LOLzzz
12/29/24 3:05pm
Every game matters … this comment was just addressing your comment about Kansas
NYCougz
12/29/24 3:12pm
Correct, and I stand by the comment. A loss is a loss. No sugar coating…
LOLzzz
12/29/24 3:31pm
Exactly what I have been saying. A loss is a loss whether week 3 or week 9.
NYCougz
12/29/24 3:36pm
You were trying to say the Kansas loss wasn’t as bad because it was a close game
LOLzzz
12/29/24 3:55pm
Uhh no. You misunderstood or I misspoke.
NYCougz
12/29/24 7:15pm
Exactly what this discussion started as. BYU controlled their destiny and that
LOLzzz
12/29/24 10:04pm
No it’s not because every team can say the same thing.
NYCougz
12/29/24 10:58pm
Look back at the initial post on this discussion. He is talking about how BYU
LOLzzz
12/29/24 11:12pm
Every team in a power conference controls their own destiny.
NYCougz
12/29/24 11:43pm
When we are talking about the CFP (which the initial post was referring to)
LOLzzz
12/29/24 11:54pm
That makes no sense. First this is one year into the process and multiple teams
NYCougz
12/30/24 12:02am
I addressed that as the committee takes momentum into account.
LOLzzz
12/30/24 12:36am
So in your world the teams with the easier end of the year will be in better
NYCougz
12/30/24 12:50am
No, the teams playing better football will get a better position.
LOLzzz
12/30/24 1:08am
You are the one with the arbitrary thinking … not them.
NYCougz
12/30/24 1:15am
And we are comparing us to teams that did get in.
NYCougz
12/30/24 12:04am
A loss in the CCG (an extra game) does not hurt a team like a loss
LOLzzz
12/30/24 12:40am
Exactly! Teams on your plan would schedule fcs teams at the end of the year.
NYCougz
12/30/24 12:54am
No, winning games is everything. We had 3 winnable games and won 1. Simple.
LOLzzz
12/30/24 1:09am
As did all the other teams with 2 losses.
NYCougz
12/30/24 1:17am
That’s where I can’t feel bad for us…. We literally controlled our own destiny.
LOLzzz
12/30/24 1:28am
It’s not about feeling bad. Yes just win all your games and you are in.
NYCougz
12/30/24 1:36am
I just think your opinion lacks accountability…
LOLzzz
12/30/24 8:12am
Not at all. I think we should try to win every game.
NYCougz
12/30/24 11:26am
That’s what you’re saying. We aren’t in when we should have gotten an at large
LOLzzz
12/30/24 11:47am
Every at large team is in the same boat. The thread is evaluating the committes
NYCougz
12/30/24 11:52am
And one last time, I think your thinking is arbitrary not the committee.
NYCougz
12/30/24 11:29am
No, my justification is momentum matters late in the season. To drop 2 games
LOLzzz
12/30/24 11:50am
The thread is about did the committee make the right decision.
NYCougz
12/30/24 11:54am
Re-read the initial post buddy.
LOLzzz
12/30/24 12:07pm
Please tell me you are joking. We already know that. The discussion is are we
NYCougz
12/30/24 12:13pm
Only those that didn’t take advantage…
LOLzzz
12/30/24 12:21pm
Perhaps you don’t understand what an at large bid is.
NYCougz
12/30/24 12:38pm
I know what an at large bid is. I’m saying go get a guaranteed spot so
LOLzzz
12/30/24 1:05pm
So your position as I understand it:
NYCougz
12/30/24 3:16pm
Not just my position but the position of the committee you are crying about.
LOLzzz
12/30/24 9:37pm
So where is it said that if you lose 2 out 3 you are out? Did the committee say
NYCougz
12/30/24 10:38pm
You are the one interpreting that. Nobody is saying that.
LOLzzz
12/31/24 9:10pm
It’s a discussion board. There are going to be lots of conversations about
NYCougz
12/30/24 11:55am
And we were 9-0 because other teams lost control of their destiny earlier
NYCougz
12/29/24 1:52pm
Which 3 games did BYU lose?
mulletino
12/29/24 2:03am
Kansas, ASU, Big12 tiebreakers
robin
12/29/24 2:24am
LOLzzz
Ozymandias
12/29/24 3:08am
Is this a math question? How does a 2 loss team go 1-3?
Blue Heart
12/29/24 7:29am
I meant one out of the last three games.
LOLzzz
12/29/24 9:15am
Huh 1-3?
chitownboy
12/29/24 7:33am
How about the explanation that we played the two toughest teams in the schedule in our 10th and the 11th games
KYU
12/29/24 4:02pm
Just because we lost to Kansas doesn’t make it one of our toughest games
LOLzzz
12/29/24 6:00pm
Kansas was one of the best teams in the big 12 as the season progressed
KYU
12/30/24 1:01am
When you are the end of your season and you play like crap in three games in a
44C
12/29/24 9:27am
11-2. Let’s move on and hope the ACC isn’t given two spots next year.
SausageKing
12/29/24 1:32am
in some ways the ACC essentially had 3 with ND
palangi
12/29/24 1:34am
We need Arizona St to do well.
Jstak17
12/29/24 2:24am
i agree, but i’m not super upset with it either. if i had higher expectations
FieroCoug
12/29/24 1:32am
We potentially are top 12 but didn't win when we needed to. SMU didn't get
johnnybyu
12/29/24 1:33am
Don't say why we lost to KU or those with blinders will throw more tantrums.
88Coug
12/29/24 1:34am
several playoff teams had worse losses, and BYUs other loss was far better
FieroCoug
12/29/24 1:36am
Bias for the two top conferences is going to be there. Only way to change it is
Jstak17
12/29/24 2:33am
BYU was the only ranked team colorado played and all the stars were playing.
FieroCoug
12/29/24 2:34am
Common opponents shows something else imo. However far you want to take that.
Jstak17
12/29/24 2:53am
it was probably the best win of the season and it’s not like there were opt outs
FieroCoug
12/29/24 5:25pm
Sadly, the worst loss for any team in the CFP would have been the B12 team
scherbie
12/29/24 9:21am
NIU is certainly a worse loss than kansas. and arkansas is also a worse loss
FieroCoug
12/29/24 6:47pm
Nah they lost the play in game against Arizona State. They win that game and they get to play again. 1 of 3 down the
KYU
12/29/24 1:44am
timing of losses only matters to make bad non conference losses irrelevant for
FieroCoug
12/29/24 1:51am
Should be based on full body of work.
NYCougz
12/29/24 2:19am
It’s funny how so many have in their heads that we went 1-3 down the stretch.
Your Royal Blueness
12/29/24 1:57am
Maybe the committee thought we lost 3 games?!?
NYCougz
12/29/24 2:05am
Which should not matter at all. So should we schedule a fcs game late to
NYCougz
12/29/24 2:04am
The problem is the perception of the conference. More than just us. The team
Jstak17
12/29/24 2:36am
No question the big 10 and sec have huge perception advantages.
NYCougz
12/29/24 2:40am
Did you watch Indiana and Tennessee?
slatecoug
12/29/24 4:01am
Tennessee was destroyed by a big 10 team and Indiana was destroyed by
JoeExotic
12/29/24 4:59am
The CFP committee needs to be using metrics just like they do in BBal
slatecoug
12/29/24 4:04am
The computer metrics said good things about the Big 12.... But not about any particular Big 12 team
krindorr
12/29/24 4:46am
You missed the point of my post.
slatecoug
12/29/24 3:48pm
They lost back-to-back play in games to the CCG. That toasted their CFP chances.
idcougarfan
12/29/24 4:43am
Which shouldn’t have had to be play-in games in the first place.
Brandoblueblood
12/29/24 7:47am
Well, good thing we DIDN’T go 1-3. OP wins the argument
Brandoblueblood
12/29/24 7:43am
That’s recency bias at its best
Lefty24
12/29/24 7:57am
Shouldn’t you be out giving an AJ post a POTD or something?
AZPTCOUG
12/29/24 12:36pm
1-3 in most sports lingo is 1 W 3 L. 1/3 or 1 and 2 would make more sense to most.
mulletino
12/29/24 3:08pm
Did Colorado just become…our new rival?!
Brandoblueblood
12/29/24 8:07pm
When I wrote 1-3 it was one of three games. Not one win two losses
KYU
12/29/24 8:12pm
Yes, thus the confusion because that’s not how it’s written in college football.
mulletino
12/31/24 12:09am
Teams I would have liked to see have a crack at the playoffs this year:
Countcougula
12/29/24 1:48am
I like where it’s at. But they should make all teams play one or two out
Jstak17
12/29/24 2:56am
Good argument for two teams out of the Big Twelvd. Which probably adds Iowa St
Jstak17
12/29/24 2:23am
BYU was a great team. . .
Zoobieman
12/29/24 6:29am
They didn't deserve it. They had their chance and choked.
NorthBayCoug
12/29/24 6:31am
^^this is what I’m talking about…
Bigtimeballer
12/29/24 9:35am
They don't deserve it. That's why they aren't in the CFP
NorthBayCoug
12/29/24 12:52pm
We def should’ve been in over SMU. In hindsight prob over Indiana too
zerome4sooners
12/29/24 6:31am
Why in hindsight? Indiana had 0 top 50 wins. That one still baffles me
archie
12/29/24 6:57am
Yeah, you’re right. They played 1 ranked team and got slaughtered
zerome4sooners
12/29/24 7:44am
Right, and BYU played 3 and barely got beat by 1 on the road
Brandoblueblood
12/29/24 7:49am
throw in how espn skews the rankings of teams by over rating
bald man
12/29/24 6:37am
BYU looked nothing like a playoff team late in the season
MyTwoCents
12/29/24 7:19am
Every game tells its own story. I don’t think there was a huge drop off. Kansas
Jstak17
12/29/24 7:41am
So schedule patsies in November. Got it.
YOHONOMOTO
12/29/24 1:03pm
I hate the subjectivity too
MyTwoCents
12/29/24 10:36pm
If nothing else, BYU should have been more seriously considered.
Soupie
12/29/24 7:22am
I don’t care what conference you’re in…
BlueBeliever
12/29/24 7:48am
Very good team that was in every game but didn’t show dominance until last night
rcl17
12/29/24 7:57am
Ummmm…. KState was a close win???
NYC and Japan
12/29/24 8:36am
UCF was also dominant where late scores by UCF made it look far closer than it was. Like last night.
Soupie
12/29/24 9:09am
That's just the Kalani feel-good style for beating opponents.
Les IsMore
12/29/24 10:42am
Yep which is my point. BYU was more dominant than some games looked if just seeing scores. For pollsters
Soupie
12/29/24 11:00am
Sets the stage for next year’s team starting with a Top-25 preseason ranking.
firstandten
12/29/24 8:23am
RE: BYU ABSOLUTELY should have been in the playoffs
MrGeneric
12/29/24 8:27am
I’ve been saying this for a month. Mostly with thumbs down.
Idacoug
12/29/24 8:50am
Anyone on here saying differently should hangup their blue and white and go cheer for the Ute’s. Benedict Arnolds
NonmormonYfan89
12/29/24 8:55am
We just looked like a team that was sliding versus rising to close the year.
SnickSnack
12/29/24 11:23am
Nah…not seeing it.
SoggyBB
12/29/24 11:26am
It’s funny we just watched BYU dismantle CU like a playoff team and BYU “fans”
YOHONOMOTO
12/29/24 11:33am
Self-loathing BYU fans…every party needs one
zerome4sooners
12/29/24 4:06pm
Facts. All the fans arguing otherwise are probs Kamala voters
d10e15
12/29/24 11:43am
Takes some real insecurity to bring politics into it.
Jstak17
12/29/24 12:21pm
Geez, sorry to hurt your feelings buddy.
d10e15
12/29/24 12:49pm
It’s ok. I’m practicing some of my breathing exercises my shrink gave me.
Jstak17
12/29/24 12:56pm
The team that played yesterday would have represented themselves well
BYU Fan
12/29/24 2:55pm
It wouldn't have been punishing SMU, it would have been rewarding BYU for playin
slatecoug
12/30/24 2:54pm
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