Maybe the committee thought we lost 3 games?!?

Eh. I'm over it. You should move on too.

byujacob

Dec 29, 1:31am

They absolutely did not deserve to be in the playoffs, losing two out of their

44C

Dec 29, 6:51am

We just destroyed a co#1 and watched 3 of those teams drop turds vs similar comp

Pretorian

Dec 29, 7:30am

I totally agree with you hindsight is 2020

44C

Dec 29, 9:26am

Most of us knew this before

Pretorian

Dec 29, 4:03pm

We controlled our own destiny is not a great argument.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 1:31am

How else would you describe starting 9-0 and then going 1-3 to end the season?

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 1:42am

First of all, we didn't go 1-3. So there's that.

byujacob

Dec 29, 1:46am

Every team that didn’t win the conference could say the same thing.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 1:55am

So if even if we won out (which was ver possible) you don’t think we would have

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 2:24am

Of course we would have been. If we went undefeated, we would be in

NYCougz

Dec 29, 2:26am

That sounds like the definition controlling one’s destiny to me then…

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 9:12am

Yes just like every other team. Every team controls their own destiny.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 11:39am

Not every team starts 9-0. That puts you firmly in the drivers seat. Not every

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 1:21pm

Every game counts the same. Every team can win their way in.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 1:49pm

A 6th win means a lot more than just having 5 wins. Losing 2 of your last three

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 2:45pm

No it’s how you lose games early. You should take every game seriously.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 2:50pm

And Kansas was red hot and only a 2 pt dog at Provo

NYCougz

Dec 29, 2:52pm

Sorry, I must have forgot that they put an astride next to an L saying if it was

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 3:05pm

Every game matters … this comment was just addressing your comment about Kansas

NYCougz

Dec 29, 3:12pm

Correct, and I stand by the comment. A loss is a loss. No sugar coating…

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 3:31pm

Exactly what I have been saying. A loss is a loss whether week 3 or week 9.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 3:36pm

You were trying to say the Kansas loss wasn’t as bad because it was a close game

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 3:55pm

Uhh no. You misunderstood or I misspoke.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 7:15pm

Exactly what this discussion started as. BYU controlled their destiny and that

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 10:04pm

No it’s not because every team can say the same thing.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 10:58pm

Look back at the initial post on this discussion. He is talking about how BYU

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 11:12pm

Every team in a power conference controls their own destiny.

NYCougz

Dec 29, 11:43pm

When we are talking about the CFP (which the initial post was referring to)

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 11:54pm

That makes no sense. First this is one year into the process and multiple teams

NYCougz

Dec 30, 12:02am

I addressed that as the committee takes momentum into account.

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 12:36am

So in your world the teams with the easier end of the year will be in better

NYCougz

Dec 30, 12:50am

No, the teams playing better football will get a better position.

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 1:08am

You are the one with the arbitrary thinking … not them.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 1:15am

And we are comparing us to teams that did get in.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 12:04am

A loss in the CCG (an extra game) does not hurt a team like a loss

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 12:40am

Exactly! Teams on your plan would schedule fcs teams at the end of the year.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 12:54am

No, winning games is everything. We had 3 winnable games and won 1. Simple.

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 1:09am

As did all the other teams with 2 losses.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 1:17am

That’s where I can’t feel bad for us…. We literally controlled our own destiny.

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 1:28am

It’s not about feeling bad. Yes just win all your games and you are in.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 1:36am

I just think your opinion lacks accountability…

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 8:12am

Not at all. I think we should try to win every game.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 11:26am

That’s what you’re saying. We aren’t in when we should have gotten an at large

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 11:47am

Every at large team is in the same boat. The thread is evaluating the committes

NYCougz

Dec 30, 11:52am

And one last time, I think your thinking is arbitrary not the committee.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 11:29am

No, my justification is momentum matters late in the season. To drop 2 games

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 11:50am

The thread is about did the committee make the right decision.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 11:54am

Re-read the initial post buddy.

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 12:07pm

Please tell me you are joking. We already know that. The discussion is are we

NYCougz

Dec 30, 12:13pm

Only those that didn’t take advantage…

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 12:21pm

Perhaps you don’t understand what an at large bid is.

NYCougz

Dec 30, 12:38pm

I know what an at large bid is. I’m saying go get a guaranteed spot so

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 1:05pm

So your position as I understand it:

NYCougz

Dec 30, 3:16pm

Not just my position but the position of the committee you are crying about.

LOLzzz

Dec 30, 9:37pm

So where is it said that if you lose 2 out 3 you are out? Did the committee say

NYCougz

Dec 30, 10:38pm

It’s a discussion board. There are going to be lots of conversations about

NYCougz

Dec 30, 11:55am

And we were 9-0 because other teams lost control of their destiny earlier

NYCougz

Dec 29, 1:52pm

Which 3 games did BYU lose?

mulletino

Dec 29, 2:03am

Kansas, ASU, Big12 tiebreakers

robin

Dec 29, 2:24am

LOLzzz

Ozymandias

Dec 29, 3:08am

Is this a math question? How does a 2 loss team go 1-3?

Blue Heart

Dec 29, 7:29am

I meant one out of the last three games.

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 9:15am

Huh 1-3?

chitownboy

Dec 29, 7:33am

How about the explanation that we played the two toughest teams in the schedule in our 10th and the 11th games

KYU

Dec 29, 4:02pm

Just because we lost to Kansas doesn’t make it one of our toughest games

LOLzzz

Dec 29, 6:00pm

Kansas was one of the best teams in the big 12 as the season progressed

KYU

Dec 30, 1:01am

When you are the end of your season and you play like crap in three games in a

44C

Dec 29, 9:27am

11-2. Let’s move on and hope the ACC isn’t given two spots next year.

SausageKing

Dec 29, 1:32am

in some ways the ACC essentially had 3 with ND

palangi

Dec 29, 1:34am

We need Arizona St to do well.

Jstak17

Dec 29, 2:24am

i agree, but i’m not super upset with it either. if i had higher expectations

FieroCoug

Dec 29, 1:32am

We potentially are top 12 but didn't win when we needed to. SMU didn't get

johnnybyu

Dec 29, 1:33am

Don't say why we lost to KU or those with blinders will throw more tantrums.

88Coug

Dec 29, 1:34am

several playoff teams had worse losses, and BYUs other loss was far better

FieroCoug

Dec 29, 1:36am

Bias for the two top conferences is going to be there. Only way to change it is

Jstak17

Dec 29, 2:33am

BYU was the only ranked team colorado played and all the stars were playing.

FieroCoug

Dec 29, 2:34am

Common opponents shows something else imo. However far you want to take that.

Jstak17

Dec 29, 2:53am

it was probably the best win of the season and it’s not like there were opt outs

FieroCoug

Dec 29, 5:25pm

Sadly, the worst loss for any team in the CFP would have been the B12 team

scherbie

Dec 29, 9:21am

NIU is certainly a worse loss than kansas. and arkansas is also a worse loss

FieroCoug

Dec 29, 6:47pm

Nah they lost the play in game against Arizona State. They win that game and they get to play again. 1 of 3 down the

KYU

Dec 29, 1:44am

timing of losses only matters to make bad non conference losses irrelevant for

FieroCoug

Dec 29, 1:51am

Should be based on full body of work.

NYCougz