Jan 2, 2025
7:20:12pm
7:20:12pm
But was there an indicator? Not as clear
And, by rule (pg 93), there must be an indicator:
"This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below)"
I think the refs easily satisifed your first two prongs, but couldn't get comfortable with any one indicator.
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Jan 2, 12:30am
In my opinion, the rule is there to protect a player from getting injured. I think the fact that the guy’s laying there
Jan 2, 12:42am
Every time a “defenseless” player gets injured by being hit in the head, yes. Thats the entire purpose of the rule.
Jan 2, 9:06am
Nope, still a penalty even if there’s no injury. Penalty is based on a specific action that is likely to result in
Jan 2, 10:02am
Jan 2, 10:07am
Yup. Thats why I used the language of the rule in my post. Some folks are trying to parse what’s “forcible” contact and
Jan 2, 10:21am
No, a defenseless player being injured by the contact to his head shows that it was plenty “forcible” to fulfill the
Jan 2, 10:40am
Jan 2, 10:44am
Prevention of those exact injuries are 100% the purpose of the rule. Injuries *are* the purpose and justification for
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Jan 2, 11:43am
Nope. The purpose isn’t to avoid “worry” by preventing “worrisome” acts. The purpose is 100% to decrease injury and to
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Jan 2, 1:37pm
No I’m not. That’s your strawman of what I’m proposing. You throw the flag if there is “forcible contact” to the head
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Jan 2, 4:38pm
Indicator is “forcible contact” to head or neck area of a defenseless receiver. Which part of that do you think is in
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Indicators like his head snapping back after helmet to helmet contactsand him laying on the ground with a concussion
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I think if they had an angle clearly showing forcible contact to the head they would have made the call
Jan 2, 7:18am
I don't think that's clear - you can't see through his shoulder to see where his face mask hits first
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