Jan 2, 2025
8:15:15am
8:15:15am
I agree that there is contact to the WR helmet/face mask
The question is if it was forcible contact, which again isn't defined by the NCAA. I don't think anybody can say it was clearly forcible contact when that isn't even defined and there is a question where the contact was first made by the defender on the WR.
Again, I think this could have easily been flagged - and hits like that often do get flagged. But also think there is some justification for the no call given the technical requirements of the rule as defined by the NCAA.
I also think it's silly to claim that Big 10 refs willingly cheated to help the SEC, which many seem to want to think. I'd bet it's as simple as the crew determining that there was no video evidence of forcible contact and so they declined to make a game changing call without it.
Again, I think this could have easily been flagged - and hits like that often do get flagged. But also think there is some justification for the no call given the technical requirements of the rule as defined by the NCAA.
I also think it's silly to claim that Big 10 refs willingly cheated to help the SEC, which many seem to want to think. I'd bet it's as simple as the crew determining that there was no video evidence of forcible contact and so they declined to make a game changing call without it.
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Jan 2, 12:30am
In my opinion, the rule is there to protect a player from getting injured. I think the fact that the guy’s laying there
Jan 2, 12:42am
Every time a “defenseless” player gets injured by being hit in the head, yes. Thats the entire purpose of the rule.
Jan 2, 9:06am
Nope, still a penalty even if there’s no injury. Penalty is based on a specific action that is likely to result in
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Jan 2, 10:07am
Yup. Thats why I used the language of the rule in my post. Some folks are trying to parse what’s “forcible” contact and
Jan 2, 10:21am
No, a defenseless player being injured by the contact to his head shows that it was plenty “forcible” to fulfill the
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Jan 2, 10:44am
Prevention of those exact injuries are 100% the purpose of the rule. Injuries *are* the purpose and justification for
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Jan 2, 11:43am
Nope. The purpose isn’t to avoid “worry” by preventing “worrisome” acts. The purpose is 100% to decrease injury and to
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Jan 2, 1:37pm
No I’m not. That’s your strawman of what I’m proposing. You throw the flag if there is “forcible contact” to the head
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Indicator is “forcible contact” to head or neck area of a defenseless receiver. Which part of that do you think is in
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Indicators like his head snapping back after helmet to helmet contactsand him laying on the ground with a concussion
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I think if they had an angle clearly showing forcible contact to the head they would have made the call
Jan 2, 7:18am
I don't think that's clear - you can't see through his shoulder to see where his face mask hits first
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