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Dec 29, 2024
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Fervent Cougar
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What city/area in SoCal, Shog?
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Visiting my wife's old home ward in SoCal today. It's about what you'd expect
shoganai
12/29/24 12:40pm
What city/area in SoCal, Shog?
Fervent Cougar
12/29/24 12:49pm
Long Beach.
shoganai
12/29/24 12:51pm
I used to like Long Beach 30 years ago. Went to a LB ward for awhile.
88Coug
12/29/24 12:56pm
Love visiting. Would never seriously consider living here.
shoganai
12/29/24 1:01pm
I grew up in SoCal - I loved it. But California reminds me of a third world
Str8CashCougar
12/29/24 7:31pm
Sorry, but Utah is full. The quality of life has already substantially decreased due to move-ins from other states.
Rules For Thee
12/30/24 9:22am
I lived in 3rd world countries for about 22 years, and just moved to SoCal a few
Japan Coug
12/30/24 9:33am
Me too bro. I lived in 3 latam countries for 8 years: 2 in Colombia, 3 in Chile
Str8CashCougar
12/30/24 9:53pm
If you’ve lived in 3rd world countries that long, then I’m sure you would agree
Japan Coug
12/31/24 1:30am
I just looked at the meetinghouse locator for the South Bay. So few wards
88Coug
12/29/24 7:31pm
Portland, OR is the same way—was a mass exodus in 2019 (even before COVID).
BYUHgrad
12/29/24 11:36pm
One of my coworker/friends grew up in Long Beach.
85fan
12/29/24 2:32pm
Grew up in Long Beach 8th ward.
Florwood
12/29/24 5:21pm
I grew up in Long Beach 5th. My grandfather was responsible for the building
BYUFBDAD
12/29/24 9:54pm
I loved the building on ximeno
Florwood
12/29/24 10:38pm
Was in the 10th ward from 2010 to 2013, loved that ward
Kevin Arnold
12/29/24 11:15pm
Long Beach State or Long Beach Each Stake?
NacoCoug
12/29/24 10:27pm
RE: Long Beach State or Long Beach Each Stake?
BYUFBDAD
12/29/24 10:32pm
East. Woodruff Ward.
shoganai
12/29/24 10:33pm
Woodruff meetinghouse was sold in 2019
ExitStageLeft
12/29/24 11:47pm
It was. But the ward was not part of the sale.
shoganai
12/30/24 12:12am
Loved that building
ExitStageLeft
12/30/24 7:51am
My parents met at a dance in LB.
88Coug
12/29/24 10:42pm
How much are home prices in that area?
NumbersGuy
12/29/24 12:50pm
SD is the best. Too bad it is too expensive with not enough high paying jobs.
88Coug
12/29/24 12:57pm
Yea, California is horrible. Nobody should ever move here.
Hufflepuff
12/29/24 7:51pm
We will leave that to you rich folks.
88Coug
12/29/24 8:01pm
Is it just that LDS people are leaving CA? California wards aren’t restricted to a small neighborhood of a few…
Brisco
12/29/24 12:53pm
This is my suspicion.
NumbersGuy
12/29/24 12:58pm
The cost of living is a huge entry barrier for most young LDS families.
shoganai
12/29/24 12:58pm
We went to a Carlsbad ward a few months ago. Had a decent number of young
88Coug
12/29/24 1:02pm
Have a nephew (orthodontist) living and raising his family in Carlsbad.
sfeuz
12/29/24 3:02pm
I'm also an orthodontist raising my family in Carlsbad. There's a few of us.
rbr
12/29/24 8:34pm
My wife and I just moved to Oceanside and bought a house, expecting first kid soon.
WP17
12/29/24 11:34pm
Didn't President Nelson in a talk to California members
gopman
12/29/24 1:03pm
Yes.
Idacoug
12/29/24 1:35pm
A friend who just moved here to Colorado told me about this. CA politics also.
eyes4byu
12/29/24 3:08pm
Colorado politics really isn’t any better.
kahuna
12/29/24 5:16pm
What do you mean by "better"?
chochera
12/30/24 9:00am
Agreed. We are becoming California, incrementally, in politics.🤨
eyes4byu
12/30/24 12:10pm
Agree
kahuna
12/30/24 7:13pm
They didn’t listen. Looking around Utah is proof of that.
AlternateShot
12/29/24 4:24pm
Was in the meeting
bjc
12/29/24 5:25pm
My SoCal stake merged when I was a little kid. Lots of wards shutting down.
88Coug
12/29/24 5:34pm
How are people supposed to stay in an area with insane home
gopman
12/29/24 6:25pm
Also when contributing a big portion of income to the church.
NumbersGuy
12/29/24 6:56pm
100% correct. Texas is new California
Idacoug
12/29/24 1:34pm
Texas depresses me. Nice people, great sports fans and not much else.
LumberCoug
12/29/24 4:20pm
Was there last month. No MOUNTAINS!!!
Bad Plus Fan
12/29/24 9:43pm
That was the worst part of living in DFW, the lack of mountains.
88Coug
12/29/24 9:52pm
I’m sorry, I’m sure cost of living is great but wow. Just a wind tunnel with
MrSandman
12/29/24 9:38pm
Austin is nice. Hilly, green, the river, UT, the capital, good food, etc.
NumbersGuy
12/29/24 9:41pm
Dallas feels like someone took the worst of American suburbia and mutated it x 1,000. Austin is great, though. SA too
WP17
12/29/24 11:48pm
When kids grow up they can't afford to buy a home in the area
Tricky
12/29/24 6:31pm
Sadly Utah is becoming the same way
NonmormonYfan89
12/29/24 7:00pm
It is not any better in Utah, with 3rd least affordable housing in the US
Mabuhay Coug
12/29/24 8:48pm
Agreed, its tough in Utah for sure. Which is why I work for a company out of Boston. Companies in Utah pay like crap
NonmormonYfan89
12/29/24 9:28pm
Honestly, that demographic cycle is most pronounced in wards in Utah, but happens everywhere
krindorr
12/29/24 1:35pm
More affordable areas of CA still have large LDS populations
MaximusMeridius
12/29/24 1:35pm
Where are these affordable areas that members live in CA?
Projectoor
12/29/24 3:43pm
Anywhere that's not Bay area or southern California
MaximusMeridius
12/29/24 4:08pm
Temecula is wonderful. Great wards. Great community, hr from SD
MrSandman
12/29/24 9:39pm
A number of people I know moved out there. They like it
88Coug
12/29/24 9:53pm
It just gets 105° in the summer and you’re pretty far from the beach.
WP17
12/29/24 11:52pm
Yes. Sacramento. Modesto/Merced/Tracy. Inland Empire.
UNLVcougar
12/29/24 5:16pm
During Covid dozens of families moved from CA to UT. In Santa Clarita, 3 stakes
Str8CashCougar
12/29/24 5:49pm
Santa Clarita had 2 Stakes before covid
PenrynCoug
12/29/24 7:05pm
don't let facts destroy the narrative - my cousin is in Stevenson Ranch
Str8CashCougar
12/29/24 7:23pm
Yes--two stakes in Santa Clarita since before COVID, but
scvcoog
12/30/24 2:35pm
5 years ago our ward in rural Kansas averaged about 135 on Sunday, now we are
Submariner
12/29/24 1:05pm
What part of Kansas?
slatecoug
12/29/24 4:20pm
About 30 miles north of Wichita.
Submariner
12/29/24 6:13pm
Same story with my mom's ward in rural Kansas
StantonMac
12/29/24 6:44pm
I have no clue why someone would eye roll this.
UNLVcougar
12/29/24 5:16pm
Some CBers love the eye roll. I may have used it once in the last five years. It's dumb.
Brisco
12/29/24 5:58pm
Appears you haven’t visited any San Clemente Wards.
bluebrotha
12/29/24 1:17pm
Lots of rich folks, I suspect.
88Coug
12/29/24 4:31pm
Young families cannot afford to buy there.
HiLife
12/29/24 4:58pm
Same thing visiting my ward I grew up in Western Washington. Now, there are some
BYUHawk
12/29/24 1:17pm
My teenaged son's girlfriend moved to San Diego with her family this summer
Zooropa
12/29/24 1:19pm
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WaffleCheese
12/29/24 3:17pm
Not that way in Huntington just down the road. But generally speaking you are
Idacoug
12/29/24 1:33pm
When I was young, my family lived in eastern LA county..
Frustrated Coug
12/29/24 1:56pm
My wife grew up in Glendora during the 80’s.
HiLife
12/29/24 4:54pm
We just formed an entire new stake in south Orange County.
cougERdoc
12/29/24 2:57pm
Yeah South Orange County has tons of young families. Ladera Ranch and San
califcougar
12/29/24 7:13pm
The problem in Southern California is that
scvcoog
12/29/24 3:13pm
My mom is probably the RS president of that ward.
WaffleCheese
12/29/24 3:21pm
My old neighbors from Springville moved to Orange County, early 30s with 3 kids
andrewg3
12/29/24 3:24pm
My dad’s ward in Bountiful is similar. Lots of older people, way less families
Blue for Life
12/29/24 3:34pm
In San Diego for last 11 years. Ward has seen huge influx of young families
nomomtn
12/29/24 3:39pm
SD reduced number of wards and stakes just 3 yrs ago. Lots of members
Bluforever
12/29/24 4:03pm
Population has been moving south. Happens everywhere. My stake is great and
Mr. Rumsfield
12/29/24 4:01pm
This is the growth ponzi scheme at work.
Jimmertime
12/29/24 4:23pm
What do you mean by this?
mang
12/29/24 5:31pm
Consider joining the strong towns movement. Our development pattern is
bdizzle
12/29/24 6:51pm
Sounds like my stake in SoCal.
HiLife
12/29/24 4:45pm
Sounds like my ward in Huntington Beach
bdizzle
12/29/24 8:03pm
I felt that. Visiting my childhood home ward in WA today as well, same deal.
seacougar
12/29/24 8:40pm
As did I visiting my childhood ward in Orem
GenkiLawyer
12/29/24 11:07pm
Sometimes CougarBoard can be so strange.....
xiaoping
12/29/24 8:52pm
RE: Sometimes CougarBoard can be so strange.....
WaffleCheese
12/29/24 8:59pm
I think you're reading a lot of things that nobody wrote.
shoganai
12/29/24 10:30pm
That and the data he posted doesn't really support any of his assertions.
UNLVcougar
12/29/24 10:33pm
RE: I think you're reading a lot of things that nobody wrote.
xiaoping
12/29/24 11:43pm
I live here as well, and it’s difficult to ignore how badly California is
UNLVcougar
12/30/24 12:22am
All fair points. Maybe I just got too sensitive.
xiaoping
12/30/24 12:27am
Woodland Hills?
Dr MoBYU
12/29/24 11:05pm
You just described my childhood ward that I attended today
Kolipoki
12/30/24 12:14am
Downey
ExitStageLeft
12/30/24 7:53am
Bell Ward still exists, unlike a lot of others in the area.
88Coug
12/30/24 8:55am
It’s basically a branch now
Kolipoki
12/30/24 10:23am
It was never a huge ward, IIRC, but there were so many small wards with their
88Coug
12/30/24 11:09am
Maybe you both dated the same cute girl . . .
85fan
12/30/24 2:06pm
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