Play fewer games absolutely, there’s diminishing returns with games

Jun 12, 2024
10:27:33am

palangi All-American

Replace games with more individual practice and agility type training on your their own time and schedule. They’ll get far more reps that way and get stronger and faster, the things that actually do matter the most.

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Signed my daughter up for club soccer.

RalphWiggam

Jun 12, 12:06am

Hahaha, yup.

FT487

Jun 12, 12:09am

Seriously. First thing is "here...pay a bunch of money..."

RalphWiggam

Jun 12, 12:19am

Somehow, one year of High School Drill team is gonna cost us $4k.

Gunga Galunga

Jun 12, 5:30am

It's not that hard

supertux

Jun 13, 10:10am

You can do what I'm attempting to do right now. Get your coaching license and

shoganai

Jun 12, 6:09am

The state probably requires a USYSA d license, but the better license is the

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 7:06am

I think the USSF licenses are better than they used to be. And, at least where I

shoganai

Jun 12, 7:09am

The problem I have with the US license courses are the lack of actual soccer

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 10:29am

Yeah, I think that's still a common and valid criticism. I don't see myself

shoganai

Jun 12, 11:07am

Related - excellent travel baseball comedy

Str8CashCougar

Jun 12, 12:17pm

This is fantastic “other Braxton”

BaseCoug

Jun 12, 5:34pm

I’m right there with ya.

cougarfanatic

Jun 12, 12:19am

Well ACL injuries in girls can be a lot of fun.

calvindyer

Jun 12, 12:31am

My daughter was the fastest girl in her club (including all 3 teams) scored 75%

TrustMeIKnow

Jun 12, 1:47am

Pressure is a privilege. That’s what my son tells me.

OmahaOmaha

Jun 12, 7:15am

Sincerely, CBum.

The CA Cougar

Jun 12, 8:26am

It’s the worst thing and the best thing rolled into one. Wish we didn’t do it and it’s my favorite thing and I’ll miss

shimmy

Jun 12, 1:55am

I thought I’d miss it when my daughter opted out for her senior year.

acadian8

Jun 12, 4:05am

Granddaughter spent $2K for volleyball

GMGlenn

Jun 12, 6:36am

RE: It’s the worst thing and the best thing rolled into one. Wish we

Ammoncougar

Jun 12, 1:50pm

I agree - My daughter and I talked a lot on our long drives.

OBXCougar

Jun 12, 2:01pm

Yeah, been there. Just ended that phase...

Parley

Jun 12, 6:10am

Very common for senior year. I would recommend most kids quit after junior year

Iman23

Jun 12, 6:13am

Agree. Club senior year even if you’re playing in college can be a waste too.

cougfanz

Jun 12, 9:13am

So true, but how do you avoid it? A lot of the girls are graduating early

Iman23

Jun 12, 10:43am

Yea for soccer you’ll see more and more graduating early. Not just in Jan

cougfanz

Jun 12, 10:53am

I coach club for one of the biggest clubs in TX. Its a racket.....

OandGCoug

Jun 12, 7:14am

What club do you coach for?

Coug

Jun 12, 7:34am

on the way to swim practice today at 5:35 am my 13 year old daughter said

formality

Jun 12, 7:18am

I agree that the time with kids is worthwhile....

Parley

Jun 12, 8:14am

I loved sports when I was young, but in my opinion, club sports have ruined

byusage

Jun 12, 7:18am

Main thing imo is parent fomo/keeping up with the Joneses. Parents love posting

palangi

Jun 12, 7:52am

Don't get sucked in to believing you have to be on a "travel" team to play good

jwalk

Jun 12, 8:58am

100% agree with everything you said. That has also been my experience, learned

palangi

Jun 12, 9:14am

I agree Club has ruined childhood for Both parents and the kids! Blame NIL!

wildwilderness

Jun 12, 8:38am

The blame is on those that make their living off or profit off of it. Club

cougfanz

Jun 12, 9:23am

Club sports have also gutted city rec programs and contributed to declining

CameronG

Jun 12, 8:55am

It reminds me of 4th Nephi where they stop having all things in common

BaseCoug

Jun 12, 5:32pm

I completely understand why the better players want to play with and against the

CameronG

Jun 13, 8:59am

It's our culture. Everyone wants to be the best.

VenomFarmer

Jun 12, 9:30am

This is the lie that they sell you. It's not true.

JDBlue

Jun 12, 9:38am

It is EXACTLY true. Clubs are just giving people what they want

Homo Erectus

Jun 12, 9:59am

some people do walk away, but most importantly, what VenomFarmer

Czar-castic

Jun 12, 3:19pm

Walking away vs Not going the club route in the first place

Homo Erectus

Jun 12, 4:37pm

I can get on board with that, 100%

Czar-castic

Jun 12, 4:54pm

What's the alternative? Force kids who want to be the best to practice less and play in fewer games?

HarlemCoug

Jun 12, 10:16am

Play fewer games absolutely, there’s diminishing returns with games

palangi

Jun 12, 10:27am

My son is a golfer. Nothing helps a golfer get better more than playing in tournaments. If in other sports too many

HarlemCoug

Jun 12, 10:35am

Yes in theory, but you still need good game experience and coaching and a good

palangi

Jun 12, 10:45am

Not that easy in team sports where play time is dictated by coaches

cougfanz

Jun 12, 10:57am

100% this. Significantly more important for development, less injury risk,

cougfanz

Jun 12, 10:55am

If a kid is talented enough, he/she can play HS without it. But travel provides a lot of opportunity to enhance skills.

unctoothman

Jun 12, 12:04pm

partly--a lot of kids are just sitting on electronics when not in an organized

Socrates Johnson

Jun 12, 1:05pm

They only have to have skills and athleticism to make teams. Most

Big Daddy D

Jun 12, 7:58pm

the great exception

lukeskywalker

Jun 13, 3:15pm

I’m so sorry. Pulled all three of my kids out this year.

DiamondMo

Jun 12, 7:19am

I’m fairly certain our club is cheating. They changed up rosters

EEcougar

Jun 12, 7:23am

RE: I’m fairly certain our club is cheating. They changed up rosters

Ammoncougar

Jun 12, 1:54pm

My older son did club soccer for 4 years... when he finally decided to stop...

Coug

Jun 12, 7:33am

My son has never played club soccer. He has only played competitive rec. He has

dallasbyu

Jun 12, 9:13am

The notion “if you don’t play club you won’t play hs” needs to die! It’s false

palangi

Jun 12, 9:19am

I'm a high school soccer coach. We are mid-level 5a team in Utah. 100% of my

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 10:27am

I understand that too and I believe you, it’s just not necessary. I imagine most

palangi

Jun 12, 10:57am

While I never did this in HS I'd argue that being a multisport athlete could be as useful as playing club ball.

greatbam

Jun 12, 11:00am

I am sure it isn't all politics with choosing a team, but you have to wonder

byusage

Jun 12, 11:55am

I don't ask. We have boys who play with 6 different clubs, so I don't try to

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 12:49pm

RE: I don't ask. We have boys who play with 6 different clubs, so I don't try to

Ammoncougar

Jun 12, 2:02pm

I have coached club soccer and will get parents asking me what my thoughts are.

Bin01015

Jun 12, 2:02pm

Great point re:coaches. I've seen coaches egos placed before players way too

jwalk

Jun 12, 3:30pm

Or they ride the good players until they break.

cougfanz

Jun 12, 3:38pm

That's how it should be. If the kids have talent and athletic ability, that is

byusage

Jun 12, 9:47am

My daughter u13 loves club soccer

CoolB

Jun 12, 9:33am

Welcome! Sounds like most people have a negative experience. My daughter is in

gww687

Jun 12, 9:55am

Weirdly obsessed parents. Subpar coaching. Greedy owners. Huge expenses.

KCFan85

Jun 12, 11:11am

I wanted to punch the coach of my niece's 10-11 year old team

MarylandFan

Jun 12, 1:09pm

My daughter benefited A LOT from top-level club soccer. She just graduated HS.

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