I am sure it isn't all politics with choosing a team, but you have to wonder

Jun 12, 2024
11:55:52am

byusage All-American

what biases come into play if you know who is on a club team and who is not when considering who to put on the team.

I am interested in your feedback about that.

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Signed my daughter up for club soccer.

RalphWiggam

Jun 12, 12:06am

Hahaha, yup.

FT487

Jun 12, 12:09am

Seriously. First thing is "here...pay a bunch of money..."

RalphWiggam

Jun 12, 12:19am

Somehow, one year of High School Drill team is gonna cost us $4k.

Gunga Galunga

Jun 12, 5:30am

It's not that hard

supertux

Jun 13, 10:10am

You can do what I'm attempting to do right now. Get your coaching license and

shoganai

Jun 12, 6:09am

The state probably requires a USYSA d license, but the better license is the

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 7:06am

I think the USSF licenses are better than they used to be. And, at least where I

shoganai

Jun 12, 7:09am

The problem I have with the US license courses are the lack of actual soccer

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 10:29am

Yeah, I think that's still a common and valid criticism. I don't see myself

shoganai

Jun 12, 11:07am

Related - excellent travel baseball comedy

Str8CashCougar

Jun 12, 12:17pm

This is fantastic “other Braxton”

BaseCoug

Jun 12, 5:34pm

I’m right there with ya.

cougarfanatic

Jun 12, 12:19am

Well ACL injuries in girls can be a lot of fun.

calvindyer

Jun 12, 12:31am

My daughter was the fastest girl in her club (including all 3 teams) scored 75%

TrustMeIKnow

Jun 12, 1:47am

Pressure is a privilege. That’s what my son tells me.

OmahaOmaha

Jun 12, 7:15am

Sincerely, CBum.

The CA Cougar

Jun 12, 8:26am

It’s the worst thing and the best thing rolled into one. Wish we didn’t do it and it’s my favorite thing and I’ll miss

shimmy

Jun 12, 1:55am

I thought I’d miss it when my daughter opted out for her senior year.

acadian8

Jun 12, 4:05am

Granddaughter spent $2K for volleyball

GMGlenn

Jun 12, 6:36am

RE: It’s the worst thing and the best thing rolled into one. Wish we

Ammoncougar

Jun 12, 1:50pm

I agree - My daughter and I talked a lot on our long drives.

OBXCougar

Jun 12, 2:01pm

Yeah, been there. Just ended that phase...

Parley

Jun 12, 6:10am

Very common for senior year. I would recommend most kids quit after junior year

Iman23

Jun 12, 6:13am

Agree. Club senior year even if you’re playing in college can be a waste too.

cougfanz

Jun 12, 9:13am

So true, but how do you avoid it? A lot of the girls are graduating early

Iman23

Jun 12, 10:43am

Yea for soccer you’ll see more and more graduating early. Not just in Jan

cougfanz

Jun 12, 10:53am

I coach club for one of the biggest clubs in TX. Its a racket.....

OandGCoug

Jun 12, 7:14am

What club do you coach for?

Coug

Jun 12, 7:34am

on the way to swim practice today at 5:35 am my 13 year old daughter said

formality

Jun 12, 7:18am

I agree that the time with kids is worthwhile....

Parley

Jun 12, 8:14am

I loved sports when I was young, but in my opinion, club sports have ruined

byusage

Jun 12, 7:18am

Main thing imo is parent fomo/keeping up with the Joneses. Parents love posting

palangi

Jun 12, 7:52am

Don't get sucked in to believing you have to be on a "travel" team to play good

jwalk

Jun 12, 8:58am

100% agree with everything you said. That has also been my experience, learned

palangi

Jun 12, 9:14am

I agree Club has ruined childhood for Both parents and the kids! Blame NIL!

wildwilderness

Jun 12, 8:38am

The blame is on those that make their living off or profit off of it. Club

cougfanz

Jun 12, 9:23am

Club sports have also gutted city rec programs and contributed to declining

CameronG

Jun 12, 8:55am

It reminds me of 4th Nephi where they stop having all things in common

BaseCoug

Jun 12, 5:32pm

I completely understand why the better players want to play with and against the

CameronG

Jun 13, 8:59am

It's our culture. Everyone wants to be the best.

VenomFarmer

Jun 12, 9:30am

This is the lie that they sell you. It's not true.

JDBlue

Jun 12, 9:38am

It is EXACTLY true. Clubs are just giving people what they want

Homo Erectus

Jun 12, 9:59am

some people do walk away, but most importantly, what VenomFarmer

Czar-castic

Jun 12, 3:19pm

Walking away vs Not going the club route in the first place

Homo Erectus

Jun 12, 4:37pm

I can get on board with that, 100%

Czar-castic

Jun 12, 4:54pm

What's the alternative? Force kids who want to be the best to practice less and play in fewer games?

HarlemCoug

Jun 12, 10:16am

Play fewer games absolutely, there’s diminishing returns with games

palangi

Jun 12, 10:27am

My son is a golfer. Nothing helps a golfer get better more than playing in tournaments. If in other sports too many

HarlemCoug

Jun 12, 10:35am

Yes in theory, but you still need good game experience and coaching and a good

palangi

Jun 12, 10:45am

Not that easy in team sports where play time is dictated by coaches

cougfanz

Jun 12, 10:57am

100% this. Significantly more important for development, less injury risk,

cougfanz

Jun 12, 10:55am

If a kid is talented enough, he/she can play HS without it. But travel provides a lot of opportunity to enhance skills.

unctoothman

Jun 12, 12:04pm

partly--a lot of kids are just sitting on electronics when not in an organized

Socrates Johnson

Jun 12, 1:05pm

They only have to have skills and athleticism to make teams. Most

Big Daddy D

Jun 12, 7:58pm

the great exception

lukeskywalker

Jun 13, 3:15pm

I’m so sorry. Pulled all three of my kids out this year.

DiamondMo

Jun 12, 7:19am

I’m fairly certain our club is cheating. They changed up rosters

EEcougar

Jun 12, 7:23am

RE: I’m fairly certain our club is cheating. They changed up rosters

Ammoncougar

Jun 12, 1:54pm

My older son did club soccer for 4 years... when he finally decided to stop...

Coug

Jun 12, 7:33am

My son has never played club soccer. He has only played competitive rec. He has

dallasbyu

Jun 12, 9:13am

The notion “if you don’t play club you won’t play hs” needs to die! It’s false

palangi

Jun 12, 9:19am

I'm a high school soccer coach. We are mid-level 5a team in Utah. 100% of my

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 10:27am

I understand that too and I believe you, it’s just not necessary. I imagine most

palangi

Jun 12, 10:57am

While I never did this in HS I'd argue that being a multisport athlete could be as useful as playing club ball.

greatbam

Jun 12, 11:00am

I am sure it isn't all politics with choosing a team, but you have to wonder

byusage

Jun 12, 11:55am

I don't ask. We have boys who play with 6 different clubs, so I don't try to

Iron Coug

Jun 12, 12:49pm

RE: I don't ask. We have boys who play with 6 different clubs, so I don't try to

Ammoncougar

Jun 12, 2:02pm

I have coached club soccer and will get parents asking me what my thoughts are.

Bin01015

Jun 12, 2:02pm

Great point re:coaches. I've seen coaches egos placed before players way too

jwalk

Jun 12, 3:30pm

Or they ride the good players until they break.

cougfanz

Jun 12, 3:38pm

That's how it should be. If the kids have talent and athletic ability, that is

byusage

Jun 12, 9:47am

My daughter u13 loves club soccer

CoolB

Jun 12, 9:33am

Welcome! Sounds like most people have a negative experience. My daughter is in

gww687

Jun 12, 9:55am

Weirdly obsessed parents. Subpar coaching. Greedy owners. Huge expenses.

KCFan85

Jun 12, 11:11am

I wanted to punch the coach of my niece's 10-11 year old team

MarylandFan

Jun 12, 1:09pm

My daughter benefited A LOT from top-level club soccer. She just graduated HS.

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