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Sep 23, 2024
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Cougarbib
Intervention Needed
We are in The Big 12 now. Try to keep up with the times. The times - they are
a changin!
BYU will continue to have options it could never even sniff before.
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What does Holmoe do if Hill becomes so good that he is getting
UNLVcougar
Sep 22, 11:38pm
Back up a brinks truck to get him to stay.
cougarfann888
Sep 22, 11:39pm
Kalani and Jay Hill are very close friends. And head coaches that are winning
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 2:04am
so without Jay Hill, where would we be?
44C
Sep 23, 6:24am
I think he gave Hill full credit
ALC
Sep 23, 7:32am
It would not be 4-8. We have the 5-7 players with another year of
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:06am
Without Hill there is no Jack Kelly
AZ Coug
Sep 23, 2:21pm
I know. But, there would have been someone else.
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 2:27pm
Just like in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2022. Someone else always steps up.
here's to hoping
Sep 23, 9:34pm
We are in The Big 12 now. Try to keep up with the times. The times - they are
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:45pm
You're right, any coach and any player will do in the Big 12. See Houston.
here's to hoping
Sep 23, 9:51pm
I love how people who don’t know anything about football makes such predictions
travelcoug
Sep 23, 1:29pm
Operative word being “huge.”
Brisco
Sep 23, 2:32pm
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Forzaitalia
Sep 23, 2:08pm
Hope the heart attack was blessing in disguise, and Hill decides he does need
Forzaitalia
Sep 23, 2:12pm
no, they would offer to pay him a lot of money to stay as DC
JOPE
Sep 22, 11:40pm
It will happen if we keep winning this year
TLCougar
Sep 22, 11:40pm
Hill is very particular about where he wants to live. He passed up offers at
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 2:07am
Morgan Scalley is not going anywhere. The only risk is that Whit retires,
anonymous37
Sep 23, 9:55am
I think the best hope is to pay him at or near HC compensation with a commitment
Jasbo
Sep 23, 10:29am
My hope is that he doesn’t want to uproot the family. He’s reportedly making
Powerbait DPM
Sep 23, 12:46pm
Agreed. Let's hope he doesn't take any coaches or players with him.
astroman
Sep 23, 5:59am
Why are some so quick to give Hill all the credit? Kalani is the current head coach.
RdF3
Sep 22, 11:40pm
Because the defense was mostly inept until he became defensive coordinator
cougarfann888
Sep 22, 11:42pm
I think u might want to check rankings of offenses. Ours has been pretty
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 2:09am
People love to blame Kalani when things are bad, then give him no credit if
Blueto
Sep 22, 11:42pm
True, but there is still a weakness on offense so until that looks solved the
SoBlueitHurts
Sep 23, 2:59pm
Because Hill's impact was apparent from day one post Tuaki. Yes, Kalani snagged
jtm0001
Sep 22, 11:43pm
Hill was unimpressive year 1. Very impressive now.
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 2:09am
I disagree that he was unimpressive. His results where unimpressive but he
cougsareforreal
Sep 23, 5:05am
The extra year of experience would deliver huge returns regardless of who
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:09am
Tuaiki says…….
cougsareforreal
Sep 23, 6:01pm
nobody is impressive when you lack talent and you install a brand new system
deliciousmocha
Sep 23, 6:54am
He failed in holding existing roster together and holding that recruiting class
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:11am
If that’s your definition of failure I’ll take it. You don’t revamp a defense as bad as 2022 in one season.
Longhaul
Sep 23, 10:02am
Actually, many do. Especially after a rebuilding season. They retain players,
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 10:53am
This comment suggests you have no idea how bad it really was. Hill will prove to be what saves Kalani's job.
unctoothman
Sep 23, 10:55am
Sure.
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 10:56am
There were signs last year of the defense hustling, making plays
gopman
Sep 23, 12:11pm
Kalani is still overseeing everything from recruiting to strength and
Polecat
Sep 23, 10:00am
Plus Hill is LDS and was right up the road. It was a no-brainer to offer him.
BlueFever
Sep 23, 11:05am
Not disparaging Sitake at all
TLCougar
Sep 22, 11:46pm
Maybe. And if he leaves we can start bragging about Kalani’s coaching tree
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 2:13am
How many guys from Kalani's tree have left for a promotion?
CameronG
Sep 23, 9:06am
Grimes got a better job at the time. This would be a 2nd one. And now that
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:18am
Considering success really only counts if the guy goes elsewhere and thrives, then right now it's at 0. Which seems low
unctoothman
Sep 23, 11:04am
Our recruiting is turning around, and recruits, even defensive recruits
JOPE
Sep 22, 11:46pm
It only took ks eight years to start recruiting almost good enough. Extend him!
here's to hoping
Sep 23, 1:46am
Can you break down why you expected Kalani to recruit like a P4 without being
Polecat
Sep 23, 10:35am
I didn't expect him to recruit like a P4.
here's to hoping
Sep 23, 11:28am
I posted above that it’s highly plausible that Kalani utilized Ed Lamb’s style
Polecat
Sep 23, 11:36am
And any KS defender will try to assign blame else where but give KS props for
here's to hoping
Sep 23, 11:47am
Excuses. Money isn't the issue. It's lack of effort from the staff
gopman
Sep 23, 12:13pm
BYU isn't putting any more money into the program than what they already had.
Blue for Life
Sep 23, 8:48am
U defeated your own argument. And boosters will be eating it up if the
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:14am
Serious…. If you do not see the impact of Jay Hill, no need to try to explain
44C
Sep 23, 6:27am
Where have you been the last 8 years?
gopman
Sep 23, 7:10am
KS doesn't even understand the basics of how the game is played.
Mitty
Sep 23, 10:01am
Just stop with nonsense like this.
HarlemCoug
Sep 23, 10:05am
You should delete this.
ebv
Sep 23, 10:20am
Why? Because you can't refute his point?
gopman
Sep 23, 11:18am
Are you suggesting that your football team is paying a guy $4M/yr to coach and that guy doesn't even understand the
HarlemCoug
Sep 23, 11:21am
Show me a video of Kalani breaking down film. Go on.
gopman
Sep 23, 11:26am
Hey wait aren’t you the guy who said before the KSU game that our non-LJ RBs are
Junior Deputy
Sep 23, 10:18pm
lol some of these takes are nutso
cruiserhead
Sep 23, 12:32pm
Kalani gets the credit for the Hill hire, just as he gets the blame for all the bad hires. However, the credit for the
unctoothman
Sep 23, 11:07am
The Defense was Top 10 in 2020 just like the offense. Unfortunately, a bunch
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 11:14am
Any 2020 stats count WRT national ranking are essentially meaningless. Esp for BYU. Holmoe did an incredible job of
unctoothman
Sep 23, 11:29am
Regardless, the 2020 D was a very good defense and the offense was a
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 11:58am
If we start having coaches leave because this is place leads to promotions, then we attract better talent
KingDave
Sep 22, 11:43pm
Let’s have a winning record in conference first
Reasonable1
Sep 23, 12:00am
Retire. Make Kalani AD. Promote Jay Hill to HC
Dr MoBYU
Sep 23, 12:00am
I actually think KS would be a really good AD. But he wouldn't make $4M/yr...
YankeeCoug
Sep 23, 11:56am
Probably he’s set by now. I’d hope and he could ride off into the sunset.
Dr MoBYU
Sep 23, 12:30pm
Why do people get their undies in a bunch worrying about dumb things they can't control?
ManicBlue
Sep 23, 12:03am
You mean like football games that you aren't playing in?
cougarfann888
Sep 23, 12:13am
You get your undies in a bunch over those too? Wow, I'll bet you can relly hit the high notes. How's your BP?
ManicBlue
Sep 23, 12:29am
You mean like other poster’s posts?
ColonelMustard
Sep 23, 10:12am
RE: What does Holmoe do if Hill becomes so good that he is getting head
YIsForBrigham
Sep 23, 12:28am
If you know Hill will make a significantly better HC and he is the main
maYbe
Sep 23, 1:19am
Have them switch positions. 🙂
Lifer
Sep 23, 3:51am
The hope would be that a) we keep Hill as DC & then b) Kalani realizes
gopman
Sep 23, 7:03am
Bronco did not retire. He left for a bigger stage and was paid handsomely.
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:16am
True. I also remember reading reports where he told Tom he took the
gopman
Sep 23, 12:25pm
Sitake has had offers and if he wins 9 this season will get more offers. BYU
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 2:30pm
How about the Dude just had a heart attack, we know nothing about his family situation with wife and kids and relatives
DJROSS
Sep 23, 7:15am
Agree. Edwards was not highly paid and stayed until he was done coaching.
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:19am
People are saying Kalani has no coaching tree if he goes then that is good
nbruin
Sep 23, 7:39am
What happens next year when Scalley hires Hill as his DC?
CrimsonCardinal
Sep 23, 7:55am
Then Hill would keep his spot as next BYU HC. Might even accelerate the timeline
Great38
Sep 23, 8:51am
This is probably the correct answer.
CrimsonCardinal
Sep 23, 11:15am
The days of u outbidding Y for coaches is now over.
Cougarbib
Sep 23, 9:21am
This is absolutely true
coot20
Sep 23, 9:54am
Why would he take that? I think BYU has better resources going forward and
jre85
Sep 23, 11:03am
Why would he take a demotion?
SoBlueitHurts
Sep 23, 2:57pm
My goodness, please edit your subject line.
JohnnyComeLately
Sep 23, 7:58am
I saw the title of this and it was not what I thought it was going to be about
WeekendWarrior
Sep 23, 8:07am
Hill will get high paying offers. It’s gonna be a problem.
Idacoug
Sep 23, 8:08am
How much will his recent health issue play into that?
tacocat
Sep 23, 9:03am
Jay Hill has already been a HC and completely turned around a program that had
CameronG
Sep 23, 9:13am
Sure, I don't dispute that. Just wondering how his recent health issue
tacocat
Sep 23, 10:00am
It wouldn't affect any unless he was missing games
CameronG
Sep 23, 12:16pm
You do what Utah did with their next head coach you keep him
KYU
Sep 23, 8:36am
We lose Hill. The better Hill does, the more untouchable Sitake becomes.
CougarMandias
Sep 23, 8:45am
This is the truth.
shimmy
Sep 23, 8:56am
Don't be afraid of success
refunder
Sep 23, 9:08am
We just pay Hill more than Sitake.
Tasty Bacon
Sep 23, 9:21am
It happens in the business and government world. Sales commission can be more
wildwilderness
Sep 23, 9:47am
That's what he SHOULD do, but probably won't, and we'll lose Hill.
Mitty
Sep 23, 10:04am
Retire and let it be somebody else's problem.
JayOwen
Sep 23, 10:50am
Kalani...
BYU Grounds
Sep 23, 10:57am
Why does everyone forget that earlier this year, when Hill was still recovering,
Threw and Through
Sep 23, 11:12am
I have been very critical of KS…he is extremely reliant on his assistant coaches
SoggyBB
Sep 23, 12:26pm
We are going to lose Hill--sooner, rather than later. He will get a good head
Plantagenet
Sep 23, 12:56pm
Kalani Sitake is accountable for BYU's record. For better or worse. Absurd to credit Hill for the wins, not losses.
roseyscenario
Sep 23, 1:03pm
We lost the last 5 games of last season. Exactly zero of those losses are the fault of Hill for some reason. Apparently
HarlemCoug
Sep 23, 1:05pm
Each is responsible for their job description. Hill is doing a great job.
Plantagenet
Sep 23, 1:11pm
if this were true then Hill would be getting much more heat for 2023.
HarlemCoug
Sep 23, 1:14pm
Hill did the best you can do with what he had last year. He has transformed
Plantagenet
Sep 23, 4:52pm
Central to Sitake's job description is that he attract brilliant, winning help. That's how LaVell won. That what all
roseyscenario
Sep 23, 1:30pm
It’s a great problem to have!
Shawarma
Sep 23, 2:03pm
Sitake is a good coach and Jake is BYU's best QB, by far. Not say Kalani is a great Coach. He's neither a Lavell nor a
roseyscenario
Sep 23, 4:06pm
What makes you think he was an excellent DC? At UT KWitt called the D. At OSU
wildwilderness
Sep 23, 6:50pm
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