We lose Hill. The better Hill does, the more untouchable Sitake becomes.

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Sep 23, 2024
8:45:22am

CougarMandias All-American

Your scenario is "what if BYU were cut throat ruthless" and the answer is 'lol get out"

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What does Holmoe do if Hill becomes so good that he is getting

UNLVcougar

9/22/24 11:38pm

Back up a brinks truck to get him to stay.

cougarfann888

9/22/24 11:39pm

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Forzaitalia

9/23/24 2:08pm

Hope the heart attack was blessing in disguise, and Hill decides he doesn't need

Forzaitalia

9/23/24 2:12pm

no, they would offer to pay him a lot of money to stay as DC

JOPE

9/22/24 11:40pm

It will happen if we keep winning this year

TLCougar

9/22/24 11:40pm

Agreed. Let's hope he doesn't take any coaches or players with him.

astroman

9/23/24 5:59am

Why are some so quick to give Hill all the credit? Kalani is the current head coach.

RdF3

9/22/24 11:40pm

Because the defense was mostly inept until he became defensive coordinator

cougarfann888

9/22/24 11:42pm

People love to blame Kalani when things are bad, then give him no credit if

Blueto

9/22/24 11:42pm

True, but there is still a weakness on offense so until that looks solved the

SoBlueitHurts

9/23/24 2:59pm

Because Hill's impact was apparent from day one post Tuaki. Yes, Kalani snagged

jtm0001

9/22/24 11:43pm

Kalani is still overseeing everything from recruiting to strength and

Polecat

9/23/24 10:00am

Plus Hill is LDS and was right up the road. It was a no-brainer to offer him.

BlueFever

9/23/24 11:05am

Not disparaging Sitake at all

TLCougar

9/22/24 11:46pm

Our recruiting is turning around, and recruits, even defensive recruits

JOPE

9/22/24 11:46pm

It only took ks eight years to start recruiting almost good enough. Extend him!

here's to hoping

9/23/24 1:46am

Our recruiting this year is either at the bottom or near the bottom in

kimdaddy35

9/23/24 2:08am

At the bottom of the Big 12? So, just like every other program who moves up to

Polecat

9/23/24 10:38am

Can you break down why you expected Kalani to recruit like a P4 without being

Polecat

9/23/24 10:35am

Can you break down why you thought Kalani would recruit like Tulane when he

kimdaddy35

9/23/24 10:56am

My honest opinion is that he was so hands off to the extent that the program and

Polecat

9/23/24 11:29am

So recruiting was horrible because Kalani didn't care enough to do his job?

kimdaddy35

9/23/24 11:38am

Then Kalani needed to install the program he wanted rather than let Ed Lamb do

CameronG

9/23/24 12:27pm

I didn't expect him to recruit like a P4.

here's to hoping

9/23/24 11:28am

I posted above that it’s highly plausible that Kalani utilized Ed Lamb’s style

Polecat

9/23/24 11:36am

And any KS defender will try to assign blame else where but give KS props for

here's to hoping

9/23/24 11:47am

Excuses. Money isn't the issue. It's lack of effort from the staff

gopman

9/23/24 12:13pm

BYU isn't putting any more money into the program than what they already had.

Blue for Life

9/23/24 8:48am

Serious…. If you do not see the impact of Jay Hill, no need to try to explain

44C

9/23/24 6:27am

Where have you been the last 8 years?

gopman

9/23/24 7:10am

KS doesn't even understand the basics of how the game is played.

Mitty

9/23/24 10:01am

Just stop with nonsense like this.

HarlemCoug

9/23/24 10:05am

You should delete this.

ebv

9/23/24 10:20am

Why? Because you can't refute his point?

gopman

9/23/24 11:18am

Are you suggesting that your football team is paying a guy $4M/yr to coach and that guy doesn't even understand the

HarlemCoug

9/23/24 11:21am

Show me a video of Kalani breaking down film. Go on.

gopman

9/23/24 11:26am

Hey wait aren’t you the guy who said before the KSU game that our non-LJ RBs are

Junior Deputy

9/23/24 10:18pm

You still can't refute my argument that we need depth at RB.

gopman

9/24/24 5:53am

Moa is our 5th string RB. We just beat KSU playing our 4th, 5th and 6th RBs.

Junior Deputy

9/24/24 7:43am

We don't have good RB depth. I know it's early but if LJ Martin

gopman

9/24/24 8:20am

If you can't see that the fact that we've been getting good production

Ungoy

9/24/24 9:40am

lol some of these takes are nutso

cruiserhead

9/23/24 12:32pm

Kalani gets the credit for the Hill hire, just as he gets the blame for all the bad hires. However, the credit for the

unctoothman

9/23/24 11:07am

If we start having coaches leave because this is place leads to promotions, then we attract better talent

KingDave

9/22/24 11:43pm

Let’s have a winning record in conference first

Reasonable1

9/23/24 12:00am

Retire. Make Kalani AD. Promote Jay Hill to HC

Dr MoBYU

9/23/24 12:00am

I actually think KS would be a really good AD. But he wouldn't make $4M/yr...

YankeeCoug

9/23/24 11:56am

Probably he’s set by now. I’d hope and he could ride off into the sunset.

Dr MoBYU

9/23/24 12:30pm

Why do people get their undies in a bunch worrying about dumb things they can't control?

ManicBlue

9/23/24 12:03am

You mean like football games that you aren't playing in?

cougarfann888

9/23/24 12:13am

You get your undies in a bunch over those too? Wow, I'll bet you can relly hit the high notes. How's your BP?

ManicBlue

9/23/24 12:29am

You mean like other poster’s posts?

ColonelMustard

9/23/24 10:12am

RE: What does Holmoe do if Hill becomes so good that he is getting head

YIsForBrigham

9/23/24 12:28am

If you know Hill will make a significantly better HC and he is the main

maYbe

9/23/24 1:19am

Have them switch positions. 🙂

Lifer

9/23/24 3:51am

The hope would be that a) we keep Hill as DC & then b) Kalani realizes

gopman

9/23/24 7:03am

How about the Dude just had a heart attack, we know nothing about his family situation with wife and kids and relatives

DJROSS

9/23/24 7:15am

People are saying Kalani has no coaching tree if he goes then that is good

nbruin

9/23/24 7:39am

What happens next year when Scalley hires Hill as his DC?

CrimsonCardinal

9/23/24 7:55am

Then Hill would keep his spot as next BYU HC. Might even accelerate the timeline

Great38

9/23/24 8:51am

This is probably the correct answer.

CrimsonCardinal

9/23/24 11:15am

Why would he take that? I think BYU has better resources going forward and

jre85

9/23/24 11:03am

Why would he take a demotion?

SoBlueitHurts

9/23/24 2:57pm

My goodness, please edit your subject line.

JohnnyComeLately

9/23/24 7:58am

I saw the title of this and it was not what I thought it was going to be about

WeekendWarrior

9/23/24 8:07am

Hill will get high paying offers. It’s gonna be a problem.

Idacoug

9/23/24 8:08am

How much will his recent health issue play into that?

tacocat

9/23/24 9:03am

Jay Hill has already been a HC and completely turned around a program that had

CameronG

9/23/24 9:13am

Sure, I don't dispute that. Just wondering how his recent health issue

tacocat

9/23/24 10:00am

It wouldn't affect any unless he was missing games

CameronG

9/23/24 12:16pm

You do what Utah did with their next head coach you keep him

KYU

9/23/24 8:36am

We lose Hill. The better Hill does, the more untouchable Sitake becomes.

CougarMandias

9/23/24 8:45am

This is the truth.

shimmy

9/23/24 8:56am

Don't be afraid of success

refunder

9/23/24 9:08am

We just pay Hill more than Sitake.

Tasty Bacon

9/23/24 9:21am

It happens in the business and government world. Sales commission can be more

wildwilderness

9/23/24 9:47am

That's what he SHOULD do, but probably won't, and we'll lose Hill.

Mitty

9/23/24 10:04am

Retire and let it be somebody else's problem.

JayOwen

9/23/24 10:50am

Kalani...

BYU Grounds

9/23/24 10:57am

Why does everyone forget that earlier this year, when Hill was still recovering,

Threw and Through

9/23/24 11:12am

I have been very critical of KS…he is extremely reliant on his assistant coaches

SoggyBB

9/23/24 12:26pm

We are going to lose Hill--sooner, rather than later. He will get a good head

Plantagenet

9/23/24 12:56pm

Kalani Sitake is accountable for BYU's record. For better or worse. Absurd to credit Hill for the wins, not losses.

roseyscenario

9/23/24 1:03pm

We lost the last 5 games of last season. Exactly zero of those losses are the fault of Hill for some reason. Apparently

HarlemCoug

9/23/24 1:05pm

Each is responsible for their job description. Hill is doing a great job.

Plantagenet

9/23/24 1:11pm

if this were true then Hill would be getting much more heat for 2023.

HarlemCoug

9/23/24 1:14pm

Hill did the best you can do with what he had last year. He has transformed

Plantagenet

9/23/24 4:52pm

Central to Sitake's job description is that he attract brilliant, winning help. That's how LaVell won. That what all

roseyscenario

9/23/24 1:30pm

It’s a great problem to have!

Shawarma

9/23/24 2:03pm

Sitake is a good coach and Jake is BYU's best QB, by far. Not say Kalani is a great Coach. He's neither a Lavell nor a

roseyscenario

9/23/24 4:06pm

What makes you think he was an excellent DC? At UT KWitt called the D. At OSU

wildwilderness

9/23/24 6:50pm

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