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We are in The Big 12 now. Try to keep up with the times. The times - they are

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Cougarbib

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What does Holmoe do if Hill becomes so good that he is getting

UNLVcougar

Sep 22, 11:38pm

Back up a brinks truck to get him to stay.

cougarfann888

Sep 22, 11:39pm

Kalani and Jay Hill are very close friends. And head coaches that are winning

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 2:04am

so without Jay Hill, where would we be?

44C

Sep 23, 6:24am

I think he gave Hill full credit

ALC

Sep 23, 7:32am

It would not be 4-8. We have the 5-7 players with another year of

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:06am

Without Hill there is no Jack Kelly

AZ Coug

Sep 23, 2:21pm

I know. But, there would have been someone else.

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 2:27pm

Just like in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2022. Someone else always steps up.

here's to hoping

Sep 23, 9:34pm

We are in The Big 12 now. Try to keep up with the times. The times - they are

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:45pm

You're right, any coach and any player will do in the Big 12. See Houston.

here's to hoping

Sep 23, 9:51pm

I love how people who don’t know anything about football makes such predictions

travelcoug

Sep 23, 1:29pm

Operative word being “huge.”

Brisco

Sep 23, 2:32pm

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Forzaitalia

Sep 23, 2:08pm

Hope the heart attack was blessing in disguise, and Hill decides he does need

Forzaitalia

Sep 23, 2:12pm

no, they would offer to pay him a lot of money to stay as DC

JOPE

Sep 22, 11:40pm

It will happen if we keep winning this year

TLCougar

Sep 22, 11:40pm

Hill is very particular about where he wants to live. He passed up offers at

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 2:07am

Morgan Scalley is not going anywhere. The only risk is that Whit retires,

anonymous37

Sep 23, 9:55am

I think the best hope is to pay him at or near HC compensation with a commitment

Jasbo

Sep 23, 10:29am

My hope is that he doesn’t want to uproot the family. He’s reportedly making

Powerbait DPM

Sep 23, 12:46pm

Agreed. Let's hope he doesn't take any coaches or players with him.

astroman

Sep 23, 5:59am

Why are some so quick to give Hill all the credit? Kalani is the current head coach.

RdF3

Sep 22, 11:40pm

Because the defense was mostly inept until he became defensive coordinator

cougarfann888

Sep 22, 11:42pm

I think u might want to check rankings of offenses. Ours has been pretty

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 2:09am

People love to blame Kalani when things are bad, then give him no credit if

Blueto

Sep 22, 11:42pm

True, but there is still a weakness on offense so until that looks solved the

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 23, 2:59pm

Because Hill's impact was apparent from day one post Tuaki. Yes, Kalani snagged

jtm0001

Sep 22, 11:43pm

Hill was unimpressive year 1. Very impressive now.

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 2:09am

I disagree that he was unimpressive. His results where unimpressive but he

cougsareforreal

Sep 23, 5:05am

The extra year of experience would deliver huge returns regardless of who

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:09am

Tuaiki says…….

cougsareforreal

Sep 23, 6:01pm

nobody is impressive when you lack talent and you install a brand new system

deliciousmocha

Sep 23, 6:54am

He failed in holding existing roster together and holding that recruiting class

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:11am

If that’s your definition of failure I’ll take it. You don’t revamp a defense as bad as 2022 in one season.

Longhaul

Sep 23, 10:02am

Actually, many do. Especially after a rebuilding season. They retain players,

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 10:53am

This comment suggests you have no idea how bad it really was. Hill will prove to be what saves Kalani's job.

unctoothman

Sep 23, 10:55am

Sure.

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 10:56am

There were signs last year of the defense hustling, making plays

gopman

Sep 23, 12:11pm

Kalani is still overseeing everything from recruiting to strength and

Polecat

Sep 23, 10:00am

Plus Hill is LDS and was right up the road. It was a no-brainer to offer him.

BlueFever

Sep 23, 11:05am

Not disparaging Sitake at all

TLCougar

Sep 22, 11:46pm

Maybe. And if he leaves we can start bragging about Kalani’s coaching tree

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 2:13am

How many guys from Kalani's tree have left for a promotion?

CameronG

Sep 23, 9:06am

Grimes got a better job at the time. This would be a 2nd one. And now that

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:18am

Considering success really only counts if the guy goes elsewhere and thrives, then right now it's at 0. Which seems low

unctoothman

Sep 23, 11:04am

Our recruiting is turning around, and recruits, even defensive recruits

JOPE

Sep 22, 11:46pm

It only took ks eight years to start recruiting almost good enough. Extend him!

here's to hoping

Sep 23, 1:46am

Can you break down why you expected Kalani to recruit like a P4 without being

Polecat

Sep 23, 10:35am

I didn't expect him to recruit like a P4.

here's to hoping

Sep 23, 11:28am

I posted above that it’s highly plausible that Kalani utilized Ed Lamb’s style

Polecat

Sep 23, 11:36am

And any KS defender will try to assign blame else where but give KS props for

here's to hoping

Sep 23, 11:47am

Excuses. Money isn't the issue. It's lack of effort from the staff

gopman

Sep 23, 12:13pm

BYU isn't putting any more money into the program than what they already had.

Blue for Life

Sep 23, 8:48am

U defeated your own argument. And boosters will be eating it up if the

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:14am

Serious…. If you do not see the impact of Jay Hill, no need to try to explain

44C

Sep 23, 6:27am

Where have you been the last 8 years?

gopman

Sep 23, 7:10am

KS doesn't even understand the basics of how the game is played.

Mitty

Sep 23, 10:01am

Just stop with nonsense like this.

HarlemCoug

Sep 23, 10:05am

You should delete this.

ebv

Sep 23, 10:20am

Why? Because you can't refute his point?

gopman

Sep 23, 11:18am

Are you suggesting that your football team is paying a guy $4M/yr to coach and that guy doesn't even understand the

HarlemCoug

Sep 23, 11:21am

Show me a video of Kalani breaking down film. Go on.

gopman

Sep 23, 11:26am

Hey wait aren’t you the guy who said before the KSU game that our non-LJ RBs are

Junior Deputy

Sep 23, 10:18pm

lol some of these takes are nutso

cruiserhead

Sep 23, 12:32pm

Kalani gets the credit for the Hill hire, just as he gets the blame for all the bad hires. However, the credit for the

unctoothman

Sep 23, 11:07am

The Defense was Top 10 in 2020 just like the offense. Unfortunately, a bunch

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 11:14am

Any 2020 stats count WRT national ranking are essentially meaningless. Esp for BYU. Holmoe did an incredible job of

unctoothman

Sep 23, 11:29am

Regardless, the 2020 D was a very good defense and the offense was a

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 11:58am

If we start having coaches leave because this is place leads to promotions, then we attract better talent

KingDave

Sep 22, 11:43pm

Let’s have a winning record in conference first

Reasonable1

Sep 23, 12:00am

Retire. Make Kalani AD. Promote Jay Hill to HC

Dr MoBYU

Sep 23, 12:00am

I actually think KS would be a really good AD. But he wouldn't make $4M/yr...

YankeeCoug

Sep 23, 11:56am

Probably he’s set by now. I’d hope and he could ride off into the sunset.

Dr MoBYU

Sep 23, 12:30pm

Why do people get their undies in a bunch worrying about dumb things they can't control?

ManicBlue

Sep 23, 12:03am

You mean like football games that you aren't playing in?

cougarfann888

Sep 23, 12:13am

You get your undies in a bunch over those too? Wow, I'll bet you can relly hit the high notes. How's your BP?

ManicBlue

Sep 23, 12:29am

You mean like other poster’s posts?

ColonelMustard

Sep 23, 10:12am

RE: What does Holmoe do if Hill becomes so good that he is getting head

YIsForBrigham

Sep 23, 12:28am

If you know Hill will make a significantly better HC and he is the main

maYbe

Sep 23, 1:19am

Have them switch positions. 🙂

Lifer

Sep 23, 3:51am

The hope would be that a) we keep Hill as DC & then b) Kalani realizes

gopman

Sep 23, 7:03am

Bronco did not retire. He left for a bigger stage and was paid handsomely.

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:16am

True. I also remember reading reports where he told Tom he took the

gopman

Sep 23, 12:25pm

Sitake has had offers and if he wins 9 this season will get more offers. BYU

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 2:30pm

How about the Dude just had a heart attack, we know nothing about his family situation with wife and kids and relatives

DJROSS

Sep 23, 7:15am

Agree. Edwards was not highly paid and stayed until he was done coaching.

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:19am

People are saying Kalani has no coaching tree if he goes then that is good

nbruin

Sep 23, 7:39am

What happens next year when Scalley hires Hill as his DC?

CrimsonCardinal

Sep 23, 7:55am

Then Hill would keep his spot as next BYU HC. Might even accelerate the timeline

Great38

Sep 23, 8:51am

This is probably the correct answer.

CrimsonCardinal

Sep 23, 11:15am

The days of u outbidding Y for coaches is now over.

Cougarbib

Sep 23, 9:21am

This is absolutely true

coot20

Sep 23, 9:54am

Why would he take that? I think BYU has better resources going forward and

jre85

Sep 23, 11:03am

Why would he take a demotion?

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 23, 2:57pm

My goodness, please edit your subject line.

JohnnyComeLately

Sep 23, 7:58am

I saw the title of this and it was not what I thought it was going to be about

WeekendWarrior

Sep 23, 8:07am

Hill will get high paying offers. It’s gonna be a problem.

Idacoug

Sep 23, 8:08am

How much will his recent health issue play into that?

tacocat

Sep 23, 9:03am

Jay Hill has already been a HC and completely turned around a program that had

CameronG

Sep 23, 9:13am

Sure, I don't dispute that. Just wondering how his recent health issue

tacocat

Sep 23, 10:00am

It wouldn't affect any unless he was missing games

CameronG

Sep 23, 12:16pm

You do what Utah did with their next head coach you keep him

KYU

Sep 23, 8:36am

We lose Hill. The better Hill does, the more untouchable Sitake becomes.

CougarMandias

Sep 23, 8:45am

This is the truth.

shimmy

Sep 23, 8:56am

Don't be afraid of success

refunder

Sep 23, 9:08am

We just pay Hill more than Sitake.

Tasty Bacon

Sep 23, 9:21am

It happens in the business and government world. Sales commission can be more

wildwilderness

Sep 23, 9:47am

That's what he SHOULD do, but probably won't, and we'll lose Hill.

Mitty

Sep 23, 10:04am

Retire and let it be somebody else's problem.

JayOwen

Sep 23, 10:50am

Kalani...

BYU Grounds

Sep 23, 10:57am

Why does everyone forget that earlier this year, when Hill was still recovering,

Threw and Through

Sep 23, 11:12am

I have been very critical of KS…he is extremely reliant on his assistant coaches

SoggyBB

Sep 23, 12:26pm

We are going to lose Hill--sooner, rather than later. He will get a good head

Plantagenet

Sep 23, 12:56pm

Kalani Sitake is accountable for BYU's record. For better or worse. Absurd to credit Hill for the wins, not losses.

roseyscenario

Sep 23, 1:03pm

We lost the last 5 games of last season. Exactly zero of those losses are the fault of Hill for some reason. Apparently

HarlemCoug

Sep 23, 1:05pm

Each is responsible for their job description. Hill is doing a great job.

Plantagenet

Sep 23, 1:11pm

if this were true then Hill would be getting much more heat for 2023.

HarlemCoug

Sep 23, 1:14pm

Hill did the best you can do with what he had last year. He has transformed

Plantagenet

Sep 23, 4:52pm

Central to Sitake's job description is that he attract brilliant, winning help. That's how LaVell won. That what all

roseyscenario

Sep 23, 1:30pm

It’s a great problem to have!

Shawarma

Sep 23, 2:03pm

Sitake is a good coach and Jake is BYU's best QB, by far. Not say Kalani is a great Coach. He's neither a Lavell nor a

roseyscenario

Sep 23, 4:06pm

What makes you think he was an excellent DC? At UT KWitt called the D. At OSU

wildwilderness

Sep 23, 6:50pm

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