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POLL: Hypothetical situation - if you had a son with football scholorship offers to Hawaii, Utah State, Southern Utah, or preffered walk on status with BYU what would you encourage your son to do?

cornellcoug

6/11/18 4:29pm

Are you from Hawaii? Close to home is nice.

yaxcoug

6/11/18 4:30pm

If he has the grades to get into BYU with no athletic help....BYU no question

Nat Gas Man

6/11/18 4:30pm

Yeah... My vote is clear on this one...

TrueAggieBlue

6/11/18 4:32pm

I'm with TrueAggieBlue on this one. BYU!!! Easy.

cucciolo25

6/11/18 4:43pm

I'd encourage him to the school that fits his athletic and academic interests

LilToney

6/11/18 4:34pm

If SUU fits his academic interests, he's probably not BYU material

El Pasco

6/11/18 4:53pm

SUU is the most selective public university

CougarWildcat

6/11/18 8:18pm

Because it is an easy party school

stoils

6/11/18 8:53pm

It's not a party school

shakarocks

6/11/18 9:09pm

Oh I mean Mormon party school

stoils

6/11/18 9:24pm

A lot of people don’t respect BYU degrees

CougarWildcat

6/12/18 12:33am

And this pompous attitude is why I dislike many BYU grads.

CT98

6/12/18 3:16pm

When my daughter was checking out schools, she just wasn't comfortable...

Eddie

6/11/18 5:08pm

Yeah, I heard that from both of my brother's who (at least initially) attended

LilToney

6/11/18 5:15pm

I had a similar experience.

ccitycougar

6/11/18 5:20pm

My daughter had a similar experience, 3.97 GPA 32 ACT and did not feel

cornellcoug

6/11/18 5:30pm

SUU

Trent

6/11/18 6:32pm

I think it's just that kids never really consider it until they are faced

LilToney

6/11/18 7:12pm

My daughter was absolutely sure she was going to BYU...until the tour.

Eddie

6/12/18 9:33am

My Niece had a similar experience. So she went to the U instead and it worked

Pasadena

6/11/18 5:26pm

I had the exact opposite experience when shopping for grad schools.

BigEasyCougar

6/11/18 7:57pm

Totally opposite experience. I left really wanting to go to BYU.

Benfica1

6/12/18 7:51am

I hope my children choose a school based on the attitude of the random tour

frontrowcougar

6/12/18 10:57am

I don't care one way or the other. She got a good education at a good...

Eddie

6/12/18 1:52pm

I’m surprised with how many posters’ kids care so much about

D.T. Survivor

6/20/18 3:54pm

Lame. That should never happen, but people are dumb sometimes.

SingleStrapBackpack

6/20/18 6:34pm

Free education.

studmuffin85

6/11/18 4:45pm

If those are your offers it is time to accept the NFL is unlikely and pick the

thecthdox

6/11/18 4:54pm

A free education is a wonderful thing- USU is a great choice

SouthernBlueBlood

6/11/18 4:54pm

Won’t you pay for it in less pay forever?

ZooBlue

6/11/18 9:12pm

Dread Pirate Westley

6/11/18 9:19pm

More resources, better education, travel and see unique destinations vs. premier teams, walk-ons play at BYU

bcriddle

6/11/18 4:57pm

You made the most of your walk on there, fun to see your development

cornellcoug

6/11/18 5:03pm

Let me know if you want to chat about it via DM

bcriddle

6/11/18 10:58pm

Honestly the best thing to do is this

bcriddle

6/11/18 11:04pm

You going to foot the bill for his education until he gets a scholly?

Dread Pirate Westley

6/11/18 5:05pm

-Signed, Len Bias

Wedgetail

6/11/18 5:24pm

Now HE was Bias.

Dread Pirate Westley

6/11/18 6:10pm

BYU is incredibly cheap compared to most schools

BrutustheBrash

6/11/18 6:20pm

Sure, but it's more expensive than a full ride + stipend. Given the choice, I'd

Dread Pirate Westley

6/11/18 6:24pm

I agree, and in this scenario would recommend one of the schollys

BrutustheBrash

6/11/18 6:44pm

Can't argue with that. If BYU is his dream school, that's where he should go.

Dread Pirate Westley

6/11/18 6:49pm

Free school tops that all in the long run

MikeDitka'sStache

6/11/18 5:06pm

Not necessarily. BYU grads make about $4k more out of school than the next

Benfica1

6/12/18 7:56am

And like the so-called wage gap, that statistic includes a lot of variables,

Dread Pirate Westley

6/12/18 8:11am

Yep, lots of variables. But, the average across the board is $4k for undergrads.

Benfica1

6/12/18 9:00am

And that's fine if you're average.

Dread Pirate Westley

6/12/18 9:01am

Right. In a lot of cases, it could be much higher.

crack

6/12/18 9:08am

Likewise, someone with a degree from SUU, USU or, heaven forbid, BSU could earn

Dread Pirate Westley

6/12/18 9:14am

Nobody said that other schools aren't good.

Benfica1

6/12/18 10:14am

RE: Nobody said that other schools aren't good.

Dread Pirate Westley

6/12/18 3:29pm

I actually agree with you that what happens at the individual level is more

crack

6/12/18 10:22am

Actually it does not add up...

cornellcoug

6/12/18 2:20pm

Wow. Way to let us all know why it isn't HarvardCoug.

jvquarterback

6/12/18 2:29pm

Now that was funny!

cornellcoug

6/12/18 2:47pm

Yawn, really Andy? The stat is the starting salary out of school. Obviously,

Benfica1

6/12/18 3:27pm

BYU - always

BYURider

6/11/18 4:59pm

So most of you are saying that if this were truly your kid and he had a chance

cornellcoug

6/11/18 5:02pm

FB is for a very short period of time. Education lasts a lifetime. The better

Nat Gas Man

6/11/18 5:06pm

BYU is by far the best academic school in that list

2FarGone

6/11/18 5:13pm

Not for everything. For instance, Utah State has a respected Landscape

Skysthelimit

6/11/18 6:37pm

I've got a kid that will be entering his senior HS year. So we are looking at

Pasadena

6/11/18 5:17pm

yes, there are thousands and thousands of BYU grads that turned down full-ride

Nat Gas Man

6/11/18 5:21pm

We have 8 kids, each pays for their own schooling while we help with housing

cornellcoug

6/11/18 5:32pm

My plan too, also 8 kids

stoils

6/11/18 9:06pm

This was my son. I believe had he shown interest in any of those other schools

BYUFBDAD

6/11/18 5:45pm

That’s what my daughter did

1-Wing RCAF

6/11/18 5:58pm

I'm more interested in quality than saving a few bucks. If BYU were priced like

frontrowcougar

6/12/18 11:08am

What's the stipend at UH and USU for football?

jvquarterback

6/11/18 5:59pm

UH - $2000/yr and USU - $3720

jvquarterback

6/12/18 9:48am

Encourage him to focus on academics

SL12

6/11/18 6:22pm

That's very generous of you to pay for cornellcoug's kid's education. I have a

Dread Pirate Westley

6/11/18 6:26pm

If YOUR son.. what would YOU have YOUR son do..

SL12

6/11/18 7:50pm

What would I have my son do? Enjoy playing sports but focus on academics.

Dread Pirate Westley

6/11/18 8:07pm

BYU because it's the best school on the list.

BlueFever

6/11/18 6:50pm

BYU- he would already have a 70-80% scholarship there. That last 20% is

crack

6/11/18 7:05pm

If the emphasis was football I'd encourage taking the full ride to USU

shakarocks

6/11/18 8:14pm

I'd figure out what my son wanted and encourage him to do that.

Lance71

6/11/18 8:34pm

Quit football and start pre-law, business major at BYU

Y4LYFE

6/11/18 9:22pm

I didn’t even consider another school

stoils

6/11/18 9:22pm

I knew it was BYU for me since I was a child and paid for it myself. For a son..

gingi

6/11/18 10:07pm

I left my country, ok the 51st state to go to BYU.

Q-grr

6/11/18 10:18pm

Depends on if he REALLY wants to play, or feels he has a realistic chance to

OGSuperfan

6/11/18 10:33pm

Aggies

AzCugrFan

6/11/18 11:02pm

Is KS still the coach in this poll?

coolblue

6/12/18 7:49am

Always go where you are most wanted. Free education is a big deal.

Accipiter

6/12/18 9:35am

If you have the money - the Preferred Walk On at BYU. However,

stevebyu8

6/12/18 10:37am

I would choose BYU (undergrad) over any other school in almost any situation.

frontrowcougar

6/12/18 11:04am

WIth Bronco, maybe PWO. He gave schollies to walk ons. With Sitake, go elsewhere. The schollies for PWOs aren't there.

Turnpike Lane

6/12/18 12:18pm

Is it better for Dastrup to sit the bench at BYU or transfer and play elsewhere?

Coogar2

6/12/18 12:36pm

BYU...better education...who cares if he plays or not. BYU tuition is low.

Bee Chunder

6/12/18 1:48pm

Playing time is critical. SUU and then a larger school

chazen

6/12/18 2:36pm

BYU ALL DAY LONG

BlueTroop

6/12/18 2:54pm

That all depends.. WOs don’t usually get many opportunities.

ColdFusion1989

6/12/18 6:17pm

He ain't going to the NFL with that offer list, so you take the school...

Cougar Insider

6/20/18 4:04pm

Good grief

shakarocks

6/21/18 8:58am

LOL

Cougar Insider

6/21/18 10:45am

I think you misunderstood. It isn't Shaka's boy.

Eddie

6/21/18 11:20am

Yes not my kid

shakarocks

6/21/18 12:55pm

Yeah, I was trying to think of some snarky response...

Eddie

6/21/18 1:34pm

Sorry, the numbers back me up.

Cougar Insider

6/21/18 1:44pm

I guess it all depends on what is most important to you.

Eddie

6/21/18 1:53pm

I'm aware of the numbers

shakarocks

6/22/18 9:24am

The poll question asked if YOU had a son what would YOU advise YOUR son to do.

Cougar Insider

6/21/18 1:39pm

Come to BYU find a wife, transfer if prospects for football not good.

baldcoug74

6/20/18 4:23pm

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