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Go Bulldogs!

WillsPitStop

2:15pm

arod calling plays,, fly sweep

Count Cougar

2:15pm

That close ref didn't want to call it

Goliath

2:14pm

Georgia gonna roll the Irish

OU Cougar

2:10pm

None of the teams with byes rolled anyone.

Archaea

2:12pm

So?

JuicyJam

2:13pm

Georgia also is using a backup QB

Indy Coug

2:13pm

I think ND wins

Jeffacka

2:14pm

Nobody’s getting rolled in this game. Probably 9-6 game

Tare

2:16pm

Blog: 2024 Is On Mount Rushmore of Top BYU Seasons View

[Vanquish the Foe] Nick J. Lee

2:10pm

Do you find yourself feeling like you have to "speed run" repetitive work tasks?

gwalker

2:09pm

I think when the work is tedious, repetitive and requires relatively little thinking

Indy Coug

2:11pm

I’m actually happy about this. Hated how their fans behaved. Hope they

CougfromtheSouth

2:08pm

But we don't want bad losses either.

Schultz is back

2:09pm

POLL: Do you ever watch the command center broadcast of a football game

TADOW Truly Addicted User

2:06pm

Chances ND fails to show up for a big game?

RalphWiggam

2:03pm

RE: Chances ND fails to show up for a big game?

HuskerFan2

2:05pm

Not show up or just be outmatched

Deleted

2:09pm

I think ND smokes UGA.

crazY

2:13pm

Well…so far my post isn’t aging well…

RalphWiggam

2:16pm

8 dollar tickets to the sugar bowl on stubhub right now.

COACHdrn

2:01pm

A lot of fans must be pissed.

JuicyJam

2:03pm

Disastrous for attendance to bump it back a day. Probably thousands of fans who

shoganai

2:05pm

Probably way more than thousands.

COACHdrn

2:07pm

Millions?

shoganai

2:11pm

Can't wait to see how the refs try to cheat Georgia out of this one

Goliath

2:00pm

Yeah poor Georgia. They never can catch a break.

Ozymandias

2:01pm

So many haters

Goliath

2:03pm

RE: So many haters

Ozymandias

2:07pm

I’m waiting to see how the refs try to cheat Georgia INTO this one.

BW84

2:04pm

POLL: Which conference would you hand pick for BYU?

diluigifan

1:58pm

This has always been the best fit for BYU

Indy Coug

2:00pm

We’re right where we belong.

WillsPitStop

2:16pm

11-2. Tied for first. Eliminated from the CCG by a tie breaker. Biggest bowl win since the '96 Cotton Bowl

Adrielle Board Misanthrope

1:54pm

RE: 11-2. Tied for first. Eliminated from the CCG by a tie breaker. Biggest bowl win since the '96 Cotton Bowl

Indy Coug

1:55pm

That's perfect

Adrielle

1:56pm

I like Jake, he was awful in the bowl game.

kimdaddy35

1:57pm

ya know who else was awful? the guys who are going to be drafted in the 1st

LeonMarek

2:00pm

But those guys had to play our defense

tacallaway

2:00pm

You thought Hunter was awful? What? Shedeur struggled, but still had a PER 60 points higher

kimdaddy35

2:03pm

Awful is a pretty big overstatement

Adrielle

2:01pm

He made more mistakes than you usually did throughout the season but ...

Archaea

2:02pm

Based on what? 12-21 with 2 interceptions, 151 yards a 98 passer rating, another pick on

kimdaddy35

2:05pm

Another fumble we were fortunate to recover....

byubyu

2:10pm

He was not good. But one pick was not his fault (evened out by the 2pt pick)

chilawcoug

2:13pm

Oh I think it was. He should not have thrown that ball.

kimdaddy35

2:14pm

I don't think you like Jake.

Conan

2:04pm

You would be wrong. I would still have him as my QB1 going into next season.

kimdaddy35

2:05pm

<< Deleted >>

Adrielle

2:00pm

Below a 100 QB rating while completing 12-21 passes for 151 yards and 2 ints is most

kimdaddy35

2:02pm

Almost like when people (Indy) said not to get rid of Tuiaki because we won 10

byubyu

2:02pm

Why not cite QB stats in support of the QB, rather than team achievements?

russkiejedi

2:06pm

Because posting stats, either season or game by game, would open the door for

foofcoug

2:12pm

It's not that people point out flaws, but 90% of these posts just point out how

SUAVO

2:06pm

Wait, you mean people acknowledge the things he does well while also pointing

russkiejedi

2:16pm

I hope Jake doesn’t read this board, or any BYU players. Bad look for our fans

Japan Coug

2:15pm

POLL: BYU’s final AP ranking will be

Japan Coug

1:51pm

After watching too much college football, I would rank BYU in the top ten but

Archaea

1:54pm

I think they'll be either 11 or 12 depending on whether or not Ole Miss

jreid191

2:08pm

Article: BYU embracing opportunity of facing ‘one of the toughest schedules in the country’ View

[Deseret News]

1:51pm

I was worried that NIL would destroy BYU sports. I was wrong. Turns out NIL will

diluigifan

1:44pm

long term, I think the jury is still out

JimmyZ

1:45pm

Agree with this not safe for JimmyZ guy. Long term it's still unknown

TNT

1:45pm

We will see contracts coming soon

BYU Grounds

1:50pm

A little early to spike the football. P2 is probably going to happen and quicker

Iman23

1:47pm

True, but I think the BIG XII is situated well to thrive.

diluigifan

1:48pm

Basketball doesn't move the needle anywhere close to football

TNT

1:49pm

Could be.

diluigifan

1:50pm

I have said it before and I will say it again. What is the benefit of P2?

kimdaddy35

1:49pm

They believe they don't need anyone outside of their sphere

TNT

1:51pm

That is not a benefit. These guys want money, more of it. They want notoriety as being the

kimdaddy35

1:55pm

The only way P2 would work is if there are at least 48 teams. Otherwise, I think they lose too many eyeballs. And if

HarlemCoug

1:54pm

Not sure it would go to 48. That seems too many

TNT

1:54pm

It seems divisions of 12 teams makes the most sense. 4 divisions of 12 (with relegation - 1 team per division every

HarlemCoug

2:05pm

Andy Reid influence on vince young

Rakoto2009

1:43pm

POLL: If BYU were to be in the SEC or Big10, and lets take this years team, but predict what the 3rd year of membership would look like. In other words, where would BYU rank in the conference?

ChinaFan All-American

1:41pm

Jake is such a like-able guy and we were 11-2, so hard to critique... but we must. 4 INTs in that game. Stay with me....

Haysom Till Truly Addicted User

1:39pm

Getting mad about an offsides INT is hilarious lol

arcawley

1:42pm

I'm not mad. I'm being objective.

Haysom Till

1:43pm

For that particular play, you're being objectively absurd

Indy Coug

1:43pm

I don't think it's absurd to point out that on our free play he threw a wobbly duck straight into lil Sanders arms. How

Haysom Till

1:54pm

Well, you at least know you have everyone else's support but mine on this point

Indy Coug

1:57pm

touche

Haysom Till

2:15pm

He doesn’t throw that without the offsides

maxpowers

1:44pm

of course. but his throw was so horrible. wasn't catchable by any of our guys and was catchable by CU.

Haysom Till

1:45pm

it wasn't catchable by a BYU WR as the WR was interfered with, despite the lack of a DPI flag

Littlerich

1:51pm

We should've been mad if he didn't taken that shot downfield

thewaterboy

1:46pm

of course. red herring argument. It's that he is inaccurate, not that he took a downfield shot on a free play.

Haysom Till

1:56pm

I am taking the positive road, TNT note please, and believe he will improve.

Archaea

1:42pm

I hope so as well. We didn't feel the pain of the INTs this year as much cuz our team was better overall, but he ended

Haysom Till

1:44pm

It seems he wanted to make a hero throw and he needs to let the game come to him

Archaea

1:52pm

100%. I guess that is a gunslinger mentality.

Haysom Till

1:56pm

He doesn't have Josh Allen's arm strength or accuracy, but he thinks he does.

Archaea

2:04pm

Agreed. He's Brett Favre minus the fact that he ain't Brett Favre.

Haysom Till

2:09pm

Sorry, you don’t get to count an INT on an offsides call when he was taking a shot that was not the play call.

mulletino

1:42pm

Officially he had 2. We can bury our head in the sand and pretend he is an accurate passer.

Haysom Till

1:43pm

Or we can make stuff up to try and support our point.

Ozymandias

1:44pm

Nothing I stated is made up. Again, objectivity can smack us in the face at times. I think we ended the season on such

Haysom Till

1:54pm

He didn’t throw 4 INTs. That is made up.

Ozymandias

1:59pm

What happend on the free play? What happened on the 2-point conversion? Tell me in your own words.

Haysom Till

2:02pm

The free play didn’t count and was an offsides penalty. The 2 point conversion

Ozymandias

2:16pm

Yes, the only reason it wasn't close was Chase was trying to sell a PI call. Definitely not on Retzlaff

kimdaddy35

1:46pm

Yeah I'm starting to wonder if OP watched the play or just saw that Sanders

chilawcoug

2:12pm

On a free play I'd much rather the QB throw a deep interception than throw a

Salami Karate

1:44pm

Me too.

Haysom Till

1:46pm

Nobody is mad he took a deep shot. But it seemed way off.

JuicyJam

1:46pm

correct. He made the right decision to gamble when an INT doesn't hurt us. I'm 100% on board with that. It was just very

Haysom Till

1:48pm

Something was up with that pass on the free play.

JuicyJam

1:44pm

My biggest thing with Jake is to figure out 2 things. How/when to throw the end zone fade, and more selectivity when

Bob Vance

1:46pm

My biggest thing for him in the off-season would be to learn some touch. I've never seen a college QB

kimdaddy35

1:47pm

same speed and velocity on every throw. I think part of it is his throwing mechanics.

Haysom Till

1:49pm

Obviously you don't remember Jake Heaps. He rifled the ball on a 5 yard out

SUAVO

1:58pm

It’s well documented that I am no Jake apologist but the INT on the offsides is

rivercitycoug

1:46pm

it was the correct call but doesn't negate that it was a wildly inaccurate throw, highlighting my point. He's not

Haysom Till

1:50pm

Ehhh, I will give you the INT is a problem, but for mostly two reasons...

ChinaFan

1:49pm

I've resigned myself to see Jake as an Academy QB. A few options, limited passing, keep the offense moving.

GfB

1:52pm

While I agree with a lot of that, Jake also saved them on many drives and plays.

Blew

1:53pm

agreed on all your points. I did notice the last half of the season though, he stopped scrambling as much. Seemed like

Haysom Till

1:58pm

Jake is a good QB. We are hoping he can take the next step to be a very good QB

mudpupper

1:53pm

I think the consensus assessment on Jake is that he isn’t an accurate passer. I agree with others that a deep ball shot

RootieBoy

1:57pm

The reason I brought it up was because it was an INT straight into Sander's arms.

Haysom Till

2:00pm

BOOO... Who wants to be a QB for a fan base like ours? Go 11-2 and your fans aren't on your side? What? "Come to BYU

HarlemCoug

2:00pm

It’s a dumb way to show your support. We don’t even need a perfect offense if our defense keeps playing elite.

mulletino

2:13pm

I think your expectations are unreasonable. This isn't Madden.

SoCalCoug

2:06pm

Well yeah. He's ranked 62nd in QBR. My mind instantly goes to "what if he were top 25 in QBR". Rare territory for BYU to

Haysom Till

2:14pm

I won't cover the offsides play since others did, but the analysis on the shovel

chilawcoug

2:10pm

Conflating a free-play INT muddles your whole point about INTs. INTs are mostly about poor decision making and throwing

mvtoro

2:12pm

He did include it several times including 10 minutes before your post.

Ripliancum

2:16pm

When will we know about Lassiter returning or not for 2025?

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

1:37pm

When he announces it.

kimdaddy35

1:40pm

RE: When will we know about Lassiter returning or not for 2025?

Accipiter

1:47pm

By Feb 7. That’s when you have to take your name out of the draft

cougaman

1:47pm

When does winter semester start?

BYURider

1:57pm

Which of these two would you choose?

hamaca All-American

1:35pm

Cobra over the GT40. The good thing is if I can afford that car I can afford

Schultz is back

1:38pm

Cobra assuming it has the 429 cu engine

BYU Grounds

1:52pm

GT40 every day. I've driven a 427 Cobra from Backdraft and it's super cool, but

Superkid

1:54pm

Cobra to drive through mountain canyons or puttering around on weekends. GT40 for the rarity and track.

Tokolosh

1:59pm

I think I'd take a Daytona as my single car solution.

Superkid

2:09pm

I'd take the 427 Cobra over the 428 version. I'd love the GT40 too, but I prefer the Cobra.

Rules For Thee

2:03pm

BYU 11pt underdogs vs. Houston on KenPom

VinnyBYU

1:34pm

As long as we’re remembering, remember the grinders on 45th South? The

Tank's Dad

1:34pm

Great sandwiches and onion rings. Pastrami was one of their best, if I recall.

Captain Stubing

1:40pm

Good sandwiches, good onion rings, although for both I'm partial to...

Homercles

1:48pm

Since the Sugar Bowl was pushed to today. We watched the documentary on Connor

sfeuz

1:31pm

I just did the math, and according to Bart Torvik's data

WaffleCheese

1:29pm

FPI gave BYU football a 0.12% chance of winning 10+ games

Indy Coug

1:31pm

RE: FPI gave BYU football a 0.12% chance of winning 10+ games

dYrtbYkerYder

1:35pm

Torvik > FPI

Mr. Scoobs

1:35pm

That's also a different sport.

Indy Coug

1:36pm

Only 1000X better than basketball going undefeated the rest of the way.

JuicyJam

1:51pm

I think they have a 0% chance of undefeated in the regular season, since they have already lost 2 games.

durandal

1:33pm

RE: I think they have a 0% chance of undefeated in the regular season, since

Kdubb

1:34pm

Derp. I corrected it. It's the REST of the season.

WaffleCheese

1:34pm

Ah, makes more sense.

durandal

1:34pm

Shouldn’t have corrected it. Was funnier before. Thought that was the joke.

Kdubb

1:34pm

I had a lot of questions about Keita and Fouss, especially with their size.

Kdubb

1:29pm

As a tandem no, but Baker has gotten better after a shaky start. Lots of

Hammurabi

1:30pm

In 38.6 mpg, they are averaging 17.9 ppg and 15.8 rpg

Indy Coug

1:30pm

what has stood out to me is how they have complimented each other

LeonMarek

1:32pm

People question Fouss performance every year. He exceeds every year.

BYUCPA

1:48pm

I like how FT has so improved his FT shooting that we can rely upon

Archaea

2:09pm

Sunglasses compare: Maui Jim vs Costas?

Borg

1:28pm

Love Maui Jim. The prescription lenses for them are expensive but very good.

Kaanapali

1:36pm

I think the optics for Mauis are a bit better. Customer service for them has been great in the past as well.

TN_Coug

1:39pm

My history of losing sunglasses tells me to buy the cheapest one I can.

Chester Copperpot

1:41pm

I too appreciate my Maui Jims, but my similar experience to yours dictates that

BYUFBDAD

1:59pm

Neither, may I humbly suggest Pit Vipers instead

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

1:51pm

BYU is favored in 9 straight games after the Houston game?

AF Cougar

1:28pm

I blame Trump

byujacob

1:29pm

I project 6 straight wins.

44C

1:51pm

While they're "favored", they're narrowly so in almost all of them

Indy Coug

2:03pm

You can apply to be the jazz' new PA person.

Hypnotoad

1:27pm

Only acceptable replacement is Super Dell Schanze

JoeExotic

1:29pm

Is that guy still alive?

TNT

1:41pm

Dan Robert's longevity has been absolutely amazing. Only employee left from NO

C-dubb

1:50pm

That is nuts

TNT

1:52pm

Please please ARod land a big QB

TNT

1:26pm

Kalani*

shimmy

1:27pm

Cause ARod has nothing to do with it. LOL

Coug

1:30pm

Of course he has something to do with it, but people are pretending this isn't a Kalani thing.

shimmy

1:31pm

That's because Kalani isn't going anywhere

TNT

1:32pm

So that means the buck doesn't stop with him anymore?

shimmy

1:34pm

As of now he can't be replaced. ARod can

TNT

1:35pm

So that explains why you want to blame Arod, but has nothing to do with shifting the actual responsibility.

shimmy

1:37pm

Kalani does take some of the blame for sure

TNT

1:37pm

So did Kalani not land Zach, or Jaren? Because Kalani holds the same position

Polecat

1:33pm

Kalani gets credit for those.

shimmy

1:35pm

To most of us reasonable people, yes. I do think there are some who are

Polecat

1:38pm

Kalani was integral in landing Zach. I said this when I was being

kimdaddy35

1:41pm

Bronco landed Jaren. Kalani landed Zach.

kimdaddy35

1:35pm

ARod is the OC and pseudo QB coach... his responsibility is recruiting QB's

Coug

1:35pm

Then of course there’s the fact they Retzlaff is a recruiting win for Arod, for

Polecat

1:42pm

It's almost like you have no idea how a D1 program recruits

SJS

1:43pm

So Kalani is a micromanager, that's your position?

Coug

1:48pm

Being involved in recruiting stars = micromanaging.

shimmy

1:52pm

According to you

Coug

1:52pm

You’re taking in circles now.

shimmy

2:00pm

I'm not the person calling Kalani a micromanager... you are

Coug

2:03pm

That isn’t how language works, bud.

shimmy

2:06pm

It's so weird how people blame the OC but not the HC for recruiting issues

SJS

1:32pm

Kalani is more likeable and they're already crying about Arod so it is a time saver.

shimmy

1:33pm

If you go to the recruit sites... it shows the coach that is recruiting each individual...

Coug

1:36pm

Maybe you've just got an axe to grind?

SJS

1:38pm

LOL. As if that means anything

shimmy

1:38pm

If Kalani has to hold ARod's hand to get a QB... I guess it's Kalani's fault then

Coug

1:41pm

Kalani has to be involved and the closer on any big recruit- including anyone imminently slated to be starting QB.

shimmy

1:44pm

Well let’s follow the pattern here. Kalani is head coach the entire time.

Polecat

1:37pm

You think OCs offer kids without the HC's input?

SJS

1:39pm

No I don’t think that. I do think Kalani trusts his assistants and ultimately

Polecat

1:42pm

Link to this "evidence"?

SJS

1:44pm

Meant to say trust. I’ve already spelled out the evidence. Detmer wanted his

Polecat

1:49pm

What does he do then???

coolblue

2:14pm

If an assistant coach is failing in his recruiting duties... than Kalani takes the heat for keeping that assistant coach

Coug

1:40pm

My point is I see people being inconsistent their opinions. If the offense is

Polecat

1:46pm

Or maybe the idea of responibility is highly nuanced, far beyond what the "Fire ARod" crowd thinks

SJS

1:48pm

It’s absolutely nuanced. Any head coach is allowed to divvy out responsibility

Polecat

1:50pm

Yes... Kalani choose to keep a failing coach in Tuiaki and Funk... that ultimately falls on Kalani's shoulders then...

Coug

1:51pm

Link to people who say "ARod can do no wrong"?

SJS

1:54pm

Show me first where I said that people are saying it, I believe I used the word "Believe" not "say"

Coug

1:59pm

RE: Show me first where I said that people are saying it, I believe I used the word "Believe" not "say"

SJS

2:03pm

RE: Show me first where I said that people are saying it, I believe I used the word "Believe" not "say"

Coug

2:07pm

RE: Please please ARod land a big QB

byujacob

1:28pm

RE: Please please ARod land a big QB

StantonMac

1:29pm

Wowsers. He should be in a horror movie

TNT

1:31pm

You looking at Ewers. Only $6 million.

maYbe

1:30pm

Arch

kimdaddy35

1:31pm

Recruiting QBs is definitely a HC job. At least it is with every other program

kimdaddy35

1:31pm

At the very least it is Kalani's job to get the $$$ to get the QB. And BYU is gonna have to overpay to get a star away

shimmy

1:36pm

Yes that is the very least. When I spoke to a couple of big time recruits that chose other programs

kimdaddy35

1:38pm

Kalani has to be intricately involved with Ryder Lyons. If not he should just abandon ship. (I absolutely believe he is)

shimmy

1:40pm

Agreed. Lyons is a program changing type of talent. If you are running the program then

kimdaddy35

1:44pm

Man if he isn't.........

TNT

1:44pm

If he isn't he should resign. He has to be. We also are at a major disadvantage. If we were P2 I'd almost be willing to

shimmy

1:46pm

He agrees with all of that but Kalani wouldn't resign

TNT

1:48pm

Needs to be a priority even if they believe Retzlaff is the guy

Beggar

1:33pm

They have "those" types of guys in Hillstead and Bourgeot.

kimdaddy35

1:34pm

Like who? Which portal qb do you think they should go after?

runnincoug

1:41pm

Not necessarily for next season. Just land a big-time recruit

TNT

1:43pm

Devin Brown should be officially in the market and discussing offers now

Captain Stubing

1:48pm

I asked yesterday, but didn't get much of a response. Is he on the table for BYU?

HTCougar

1:54pm

How would that pitch go? Devin, I know you were a backup at Ohio St. How would you like to

kimdaddy35

1:59pm

Come compete for the starting job. That is what Bohannon was told, right?

Captain Stubing

2:10pm

Bohannon was coming into a situation where Jake had been the QB for just 4 games and had gone 0-4

kimdaddy35

2:16pm

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