Recruiting QBs is definitely a HC job. At least it is with every other program

Jan 2, 2025
1:31:35pm

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

in the country that I can think of.

Also, it is Retzlaff for next year. For better or worse (I want to think better, but his abysmal performance in the bowl game was tough to watch).

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kimdaddy35

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Please please ARod land a big QB

TNT

Jan 2, 1:26pm

Kalani*

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:27pm

Cause ARod has nothing to do with it. LOL

Coug

Jan 2, 1:30pm

Of course he has something to do with it, but people are pretending this isn't a Kalani thing.

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:31pm

That's because Kalani isn't going anywhere

TNT

Jan 2, 1:32pm

So that means the buck doesn't stop with him anymore?

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:34pm

As of now he can't be replaced. ARod can

TNT

Jan 2, 1:35pm

So that explains why you want to blame Arod, but has nothing to do with shifting the actual responsibility.

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:37pm

Kalani does take some of the blame for sure

TNT

Jan 2, 1:37pm

So did Kalani not land Zach, or Jaren? Because Kalani holds the same position

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:33pm

Kalani gets credit for those.

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:35pm

To most of us reasonable people, yes. I do think there are some who are

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:38pm

Kalani was integral in landing Zach. I said this when I was being

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:41pm

Bronco landed Jaren. Kalani landed Zach.

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:35pm

ARod is the OC and pseudo QB coach... his responsibility is recruiting QB's

Coug

Jan 2, 1:35pm

Then of course there’s the fact they Retzlaff is a recruiting win for Arod, for

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:42pm

It's almost like you have no idea how a D1 program recruits

SJS

Jan 2, 1:43pm

So Kalani is a micromanager, that's your position?

Coug

Jan 2, 1:48pm

Being involved in recruiting stars = micromanaging.

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:52pm

According to you

Coug

Jan 2, 1:52pm

You’re taking in circles now.

shimmy

Jan 2, 2:00pm

I'm not the person calling Kalani a micromanager... you are

Coug

Jan 2, 2:03pm

That isn’t how language works, bud.

shimmy

Jan 2, 2:06pm

<< Deleted >>

Coug

Jan 2, 2:46pm

It's so weird how people blame the OC but not the HC for recruiting issues

SJS

Jan 2, 1:32pm

Kalani is more likeable and they're already crying about Arod so it is a time saver.

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:33pm

If you go to the recruit sites... it shows the coach that is recruiting each individual...

Coug

Jan 2, 1:36pm

Maybe you've just got an axe to grind?

SJS

Jan 2, 1:38pm

LOL. As if that means anything

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:38pm

If Kalani has to hold ARod's hand to get a QB... I guess it's Kalani's fault then

Coug

Jan 2, 1:41pm

Kalani has to be involved and the closer on any big recruit- including anyone imminently slated to be starting QB.

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:44pm

Well let’s follow the pattern here. Kalani is head coach the entire time.

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:37pm

You think OCs offer kids without the HC's input?

SJS

Jan 2, 1:39pm

No I don’t think that. I do think Kalani trusts his assistants and ultimately

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:42pm

Link to this "evidence"?

SJS

Jan 2, 1:44pm

Meant to say trust. I’ve already spelled out the evidence. Detmer wanted his

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:49pm

What does he do then???

coolblue

Jan 2, 2:14pm

Why don’t you write to him and ask him?

Polecat

Jan 2, 3:16pm

If an assistant coach is failing in his recruiting duties... than Kalani takes the heat for keeping that assistant coach

Coug

Jan 2, 1:40pm

My point is I see people being inconsistent their opinions. If the offense is

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:46pm

Or maybe the idea of responibility is highly nuanced, far beyond what the "Fire ARod" crowd thinks

SJS

Jan 2, 1:48pm

It’s absolutely nuanced. Any head coach is allowed to divvy out responsibility

Polecat

Jan 2, 1:50pm

Yes... Kalani choose to keep a failing coach in Tuiaki and Funk... that ultimately falls on Kalani's shoulders then...

Coug

Jan 2, 1:51pm

Link to people who say "ARod can do no wrong"?

SJS

Jan 2, 1:54pm

Show me first where I said that people are saying it, I believe I used the word "Believe" not "say"

Coug

Jan 2, 1:59pm

RE: Show me first where I said that people are saying it, I believe I used the word "Believe" not "say"

SJS

Jan 2, 2:03pm

RE: Show me first where I said that people are saying it, I believe I used the word "Believe" not "say"

Coug

Jan 2, 2:07pm

Well, we went 11-2, best team since 1996. It would be fair to say I have no complaints.

SJS

Jan 2, 2:19pm

That's great... let's see if it pays off with recruiting...

Coug

Jan 2, 2:26pm

RE: That's great... let's see if it pays off with recruiting...

SJS

Jan 2, 2:38pm

Color me not shocked that you were a Tuiaki defender...

Coug

Jan 2, 2:47pm

RE: Color me not shocked that you were a Tuiaki defender...

SJS

Jan 2, 2:52pm

Now do Jay Hill. Kalani is 100% responsible for all things Jay Hill, right?

Polecat

Jan 2, 3:17pm

And not paying a million for a 4 star QB

I'mBatman

Jan 2, 4:16pm

RE: Please please ARod land a big QB

byujacob

Jan 2, 1:28pm

RE: Please please ARod land a big QB

StantonMac

Jan 2, 1:29pm

Wowsers. He should be in a horror movie

TNT

Jan 2, 1:31pm

You looking at Ewers. Only $6 million.

maYbe

Jan 2, 1:30pm

Arch

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:31pm

Recruiting QBs is definitely a HC job. At least it is with every other program

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:31pm

At the very least it is Kalani's job to get the $$$ to get the QB. And BYU is gonna have to overpay to get a star away

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:36pm

Yes that is the very least. When I spoke to a couple of big time recruits that chose other programs

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:38pm

Kalani has to be intricately involved with Ryder Lyons. If not he should just abandon ship. (I absolutely believe he is)

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:40pm

Agreed. Lyons is a program changing type of talent. If you are running the program then

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:44pm

Man if he isn't.........

TNT

Jan 2, 1:44pm

If he isn't he should resign. He has to be. We also are at a major disadvantage. If we were P2 I'd almost be willing to

shimmy

Jan 2, 1:46pm

He agrees with all of that but Kalani wouldn't resign

TNT

Jan 2, 1:48pm

Needs to be a priority even if they believe Retzlaff is the guy

Beggar

Jan 2, 1:33pm

They have "those" types of guys in Hillstead and Bourgeot.

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:34pm

Like who? Which portal qb do you think they should go after?

runnincoug

Jan 2, 1:41pm

Not necessarily for next season. Just land a big-time recruit

TNT

Jan 2, 1:43pm

Devin Brown should be officially in the market and discussing offers now

Captain Stubing

Jan 2, 1:48pm

I asked yesterday, but didn't get much of a response. Is he on the table for BYU?

HTCougar

Jan 2, 1:54pm

How would that pitch go? Devin, I know you were a backup at Ohio St. How would you like to

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 1:59pm

Come compete for the starting job. That is what Bohannon was told, right?

Captain Stubing

Jan 2, 2:10pm

Bohannon was coming into a situation where Jake had been the QB for just 4 games and had gone 0-4

kimdaddy35

Jan 2, 2:16pm

ya , I get it is a tough sell. We need a QB that has 3 to play 3, or a redshirt

Captain Stubing

Jan 2, 2:35pm

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