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Feeling a little down about the future of the human race today...
lilpenny
Jun 27, 10:57am
Call the school. That would never fly in my area. I am shocked to hear about stuff like this being phrased as
Baron
Jun 27, 11:03am
"Boys will be boys" refers to rough play, NOT sexual harrassment. Extremely
ninja math
Jun 27, 7:04pm
Not harassment, assault.
ochobeeguy
Jun 28, 9:08am
That's sexual assault. Don't let it slide
unsq312
Jun 27, 11:06am
CALL IMMEDIATELY and REPORT
karatekid
Jun 27, 2:04pm
This
MasterOfMyDomain
Jun 27, 2:18pm
It is assault. If the coach AND school don't give satisfactory responses, police
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 2:36pm
Call the police first. The school will try to sweep it under the rug. Can’t hurt
GilbertAZCougar
Jun 27, 4:48pm
This needs to be reported immediately.
marticorp
Jun 27, 11:06am
That needs to be a call to the principal of the school TODAY. If she doesn't
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:06am
Please speak with his parents and encourage them to report this to the admin.
Hambone
Jun 27, 11:08am
If it turns into a title IX complaint, then the final report will have all
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:13am
I'd use the words "unwanted sexual contact"
El Jefe
Jun 27, 11:13am
I would use the words "Utah Criminal Code 79-7-702.1(1)."
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:31am
I'm afraid reporting the abuse would just make things worse for the victim
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:19am
If this is in Utah, you could also report the incident anonymously using the
Hambone
Jun 27, 11:25am
I would worry that the bullies are smart enough to figure out who ratted on them
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:29am
If the Safe UT is done anonymously, they will never know who filed it...However,
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:32am
I'm sorry but I was the football coach who responded "boys will be boys"
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:38am
I didn't say Title IX..I said SafteUT app....WAY different...however, since the
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:43am
My bad, I'm not familiar with the differences but I still wouldn't rock the boat
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:45am
Going the Title IX route would escalate the situation, most likely, to the
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:53am
There's no way they only targeted less than five of the underclassmen
slatecoug
Jun 27, 5:19pm
RE: I would worry that the bullies are smart enough to figure out who ratted on
Sid Vicious
Jun 27, 12:10pm
This is a hard thing to do but if you think of the alternative it sometimes help
Bin01015
Jun 27, 11:40am
That does suck and can be a reality
Carnac
Jun 27, 11:40am
This is why we are losing our rights in today's society. No one will stand
Blue for Life
Jun 27, 12:37pm
If you report it, it will be a net positive.
Threw and Through
Jun 27, 2:43pm
Sorry, I meant to reply to the OP. I agree with your position, obviously.
Threw and Through
Jun 27, 2:46pm
Disagree with this take. I know someone close who holds a lot of
cougarim
Jun 27, 12:52pm
If/when there is retaliation against a good faith report… should be 0 tolerance.
BYU'01
Jun 27, 3:25pm
I’d be a lot more worried about repeat offenses
stoils
Jun 27, 4:12pm
They are doing this to multiple victims. It needs to be stopped.
ochobeeguy
Jun 28, 9:18am
I'm sorry for your nephew & that this garbage continues
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:09am
First, that is on the coach. Second, many schools do varsity only camps to
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:10am
Agree with the other posters. Has to be stopped. How rough for your nephew. I
RocketCoug
Jun 27, 11:13am
Call Principal and report. It will be followed up on.
DrinkSuin
Jun 27, 11:15am
“I guess he wasn’t meant to play football” - his coach probably
maxpowers
Jun 27, 11:19am
Coach wasn't meant to coach HS football--the law probably
Carnac
Jun 27, 11:38am
You or your sister need to report. You can BM with the information and I will
kansascougar
Jun 27, 11:20am
That absolutely needs to be reported. That is sexual harassment/battery.
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:23am
Call the police and report it as a sexual assualt. This shouldn't be tolerated.
bald man
Jun 27, 11:26am
Reality is that if he did call the police, then camp is over for his team and if
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:32am
It will help a lot of other kids in the future though.
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:34am
It's unfortunate, but these aren't 10 year-old kids. They are borderline adults
Belboz
Jun 27, 11:37am
I agree. But are they willing to make this kid's life worse to help others?
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:39am
That is a fair consideration.
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:39am
This is the issue for me - I'm not sacrificing my kid to help some other kids
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:42am
You're already sacrificing your kid by the approach you advocate.
rmsenior
Jun 27, 12:37pm
The word for this is "cowardice."
shimmy
Jun 27, 1:17pm
I appreciate the different opinions and thoughts
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 1:26pm
Think of other kids who might be getting much much worse treatment. Why wouldn’t you try to stop sexual abuse?
Yllage Vidiot
Jun 27, 6:23pm
The nephew will be hurt by staying on the team, because bullies won't stop
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 2:51pm
All because nobody said anything the previous times they did this too.
ochobeeguy
Jun 28, 9:16am
That is a myopic view. Let’s help my kid through this by being quiet?
Bin01015
Jun 27, 11:46am
Is my child helped more by reporting the bullies?
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:58am
This is based on lack of trust in the process. As for me, I can’t stand aside
Bin01015
Jun 27, 12:16pm
Why would the bullying stop by not reporting? It won't. Not reporting allows
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 2:54pm
I got the impression he was quitting football due to the incident
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 3:09pm
Talk to the kid. Work out how to proceed together
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 8:29pm
Sorry but that is a poor take. Yes it sucks sometimes to do the right
bald man
Jun 27, 11:40am
By calling the police? If it was my son I'd already be at the camp and have a
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:48am
They will know who reported. or at least it won't be hard to find out. but
bald man
Jun 27, 12:05pm
Also, this kid probably isn't the only one. I'd contact other parents with kids
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:50am
If this behavior is happening, then camp should end for all
CoolB
Jun 27, 1:49pm
So sorry for this awful experience.
DizzyDean
Jun 27, 2:23pm
Are you speaking from experience or conjecture?
Boring
Jun 27, 4:21pm
It may be because I’m a mandatory reporter (as a licensed pediatrician) but I would consider someone who didn’t report
Yllage Vidiot
Jun 27, 6:45pm
It's bad for your nephew, but he's not the only whose safety is at risk
Belboz
Jun 27, 11:35am
If true, coach about to get fired
Carnac
Jun 27, 11:38am
And a potentially big payday for your nephew.
Q-grr
Jun 27, 3:30pm
As a HS Principal, PLEASE CALL THE PRINCIPAL! This is not ok!
Tweege
Jun 27, 11:41am
I agree I am also a high school principal. The principal needs to know.
brickwall
Jun 27, 7:19pm
I'm happy to invite the coach over to see if he can do the Impossible Sit-Up.
HBCoug
Jun 27, 11:45am
Coach would be fired and program shut down in our area if that was swept under
IGlowInTheDark
Jun 27, 11:48am
This happened in the high school where my FIL lives and they fired the coach
AZ Coug
Jun 27, 11:53am
Former football coach here: take that directly to district leadership.
Adwight
Jun 27, 11:58am
In addition to reporting it, document names of others this was happening to as well as those perpetrating it.
BW84
Jun 27, 11:59am
Dang, we just had to sing the school fight song in front of the team.
XORCoug
Jun 27, 12:03pm
Report it today. Raise hell. Sue if they don't take decisive action.
Still Blue
Jun 27, 12:19pm
Report things and communicate by email. There are administrators who absolutely
byubyu
Jun 27, 12:28pm
Yup..document, document, document...I'd add there are A LOT admin who absolutely
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 12:45pm
There are also a lot who let it slide. Go above their head.
Adwight
Jun 27, 11:15pm
This is why you go above their head straight to district.
Adwight
Jun 27, 5:09pm
I coach HS football. This would NEVER be tolerated here. I feel awful for him.
SJS
Jun 27, 12:37pm
I coach HS football. This event was specifically discussed
Homo Erectus
Jun 27, 12:53pm
Report. Coach should be fired. Boys will be boys is no excuse. Shameful
Doogal McCougar
Jun 27, 12:57pm
You’ve got to report this to the police. Not funny. Not a “boys will be boys”
APowerfulY
Jun 27, 1:00pm
Save any text messages, call logs, and have his sister write out what she can
kd_coug
Jun 27, 1:25pm
Make a stink about it. Make it public. Shame the coach. Make it stop.
TailgateU
Jun 27, 1:28pm
I think some hazing is fine but you can definitely go overboard with it. The sex
bookofdaniel
Jun 27, 1:46pm
The problem is hazing creeps upward. It has to be clearly defined what hazing is
Q-grr
Jun 27, 3:36pm
Example--Utah Jazz
Carnac
Jun 27, 4:27pm
Ok for professionals, but not high school. So many teens are having a hard
TailgateU
Jun 27, 5:09pm
Like I said before, I think a little hazing is fine. I think we are getting
bookofdaniel
Jun 27, 10:05pm
What positive benefit does it have over being a good teammate and building up
Bin01015
Jun 27, 10:14pm
I didn’t say anything about it being better than building someone up. But if a
bookofdaniel
Jun 28, 6:30am
The point of hazing it to belittle or embarrass. It's damaging.
TailgateU
Jun 28, 8:15am
I think teasing is going to happen and maybe that is what you are referencing.
Bin01015
Jun 28, 10:28am
So the experience mentioned above with the Jazz and back packs. Teasing or
bookofdaniel
Jun 28, 12:55pm
Professional athletes are in a very different situation compared to HS students.
TailgateU
Jun 28, 2:18pm
Coach has to follow safesport or some similar program. This is a hard violation and NEEDS to be reported.
AltTabbins
Jun 27, 2:08pm
football camp for my son's team was cancelled this year because of a hazing
lukeskywalker
Jun 27, 2:19pm
would like a follow up for sure please
karatekid
Jun 27, 2:22pm
I am surprised that things like this still happen
cougarBee
Jun 27, 2:25pm
I hope you report. But I also fear the social repercussions for your nephew.
zerome4sooners
Jun 27, 4:52pm
Sadly, could be a lawsuit. Maybe should be! I’m sorry for your nephew!
Bushmaster
Jun 27, 5:03pm
This is absolutely terrible. Fire the coach today.
ImaFBfan
Jun 27, 5:49pm
Call the police now and report it.
Brisket
Jun 27, 6:13pm
If you love kids, you have to report this.
Oatmeal
Jun 27, 6:30pm
I consider it mandatory. If you know this is going on and don’t report it, you are part of the problem.
Yllage Vidiot
Jun 27, 6:46pm
I'm a lawyer and I generally don't love personal injury lawyers, but this is
Christopsomo
Jun 27, 7:59pm
Zero tolerance for the behavior and response.
BringYourUltimate
Jun 27, 8:40pm
The reason this goes on is because no one doesn't think about it. Do something a
CarolinaCoug
Jun 27, 11:32pm
Thank you. I just posted an update. It has been escalate. Appreciate the advice.
lilpenny
Jun 28, 9:02am
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