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For anyone who is still pro Tuiaki - why?
Geldir
11/1/21 9:34am
Kalani says we should respect him more?
Hoopster
11/1/21 9:36am
He does great with the talent he has. Look at the last two years
Lesgo Brandon
11/1/21 9:36am
These are our kids...they chose BYU...Develope them, coach them...
Traveller 1968
11/1/21 9:42am
I don't know the statistics,but from my observations BYU is great on 1st and 2nd
Geldir
11/1/21 9:42am
Miracle worker? You serious?
Ned Schneebly
11/1/21 2:15pm
I wish our recruiters would get him better talent
1984coug
11/1/21 3:20pm
RE: For anyone who is still pro Tuiaki - why?
BYUheaven
11/1/21 9:36am
Because I have no idea what I'm talking about, so I support those who do
Hotlanta
11/1/21 9:36am
I hate watching our D philosophy, but we are 7-2 and the D has lost 1 game (2 if you include UVa. The O won that one).
Turnpike Lane
11/1/21 9:37am
Brady Poppinga says he’s doing a good job
Run-DMT
11/1/21 9:38am
Prototypical genius right there, man
Accipiter
11/1/21 9:42am
I disagree with some Poppinga sometimes, but MAN he is fun to listen to.
Geldir
11/1/21 9:43am
Not Pro Tuiaki but hesitant to rush to judgement
compcoug
11/1/21 9:39am
Thumbs up on the "terrible tackling" part. Far too often, we stink at that.
BleedCougarBlue2
11/1/21 12:29pm
I am. Here's why.
Blueto
11/1/21 9:40am
Do you think another reason the D has regressed from last year is SOS?
YSMACK
11/1/21 9:41am
We were top 10 in DFEI, which factors in strength of schedule.
Blueto
11/1/21 9:42am
It tries to. The problem is it is difficult to adjust for SOS when talking about one side of the ball.
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 9:46am
Signed - 35 pts in one quarter.
BleedCougarBlue2
11/1/21 12:29pm
One other thing. I really liked what I saw from the first 2-3 games this season
Captain Rex
11/1/21 3:04pm
Maybe the younger, inexperienced, less talented people aren't good at doing
Lesgo Brandon
11/1/21 4:01pm
We're 7-2 with 5 wins over P5 teams. We're missing key starters from
Jesse Pinkman
11/1/21 9:41am
18-3. And, we've seen glimpses of what the D can look like when 1s are healthy.
CalGTR
11/1/21 9:42am
This. 18-3
DiamondMo
11/1/21 12:55pm
Winning games.
Ted Lasso
11/1/21 9:42am
The critics say that he doesn't make adjustments and then bury their head in the sand when it comes to games like
IceBlueCoug
11/1/21 9:43am
Because he's doing a better job at winning against stronger competition than BYU ever has.
kccougar
11/1/21 9:44am
So all he needs to be a good defensive coordinator is a transcendent offense
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 9:47am
I wasn't aware we had shown to be a transcendent offense until last night.
kccougar
11/1/21 9:51am
We were ranked 17th in the country. That is really, really good.
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 10:03am
RE: We were ranked 17th in the country. That is really, really good.
imdocrob
11/1/21 2:24pm
We were talking about the offense, not sure your point
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 2:34pm
RE: We were talking about the offense, not sure your point
imdocrob
11/1/21 4:56pm
If your sample includes only the UVA game, then sure.
Jesse Pinkman
11/1/21 9:53am
Going into the game we had the 17th best offense and the 68th best defense. Those numbers will only
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 10:04am
By what measurement? Our total offense is at #37 AFTER the UVA game
Jesse Pinkman
11/1/21 10:15am
Please tell me you aren't going off of yards per game as your metric. You realize that Tuiaki's defense limits
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 10:26am
So what's the answer to my question? What measurement had us at #17 offense?
Jesse Pinkman
11/1/21 10:37am
FEI
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 10:47am
Scoring points are all that matter, and here are the stats after Saturday:
MantisTobaggan
11/1/21 4:48pm
And give up less than 100 yards per game...
ochobeeguy
11/1/21 4:07pm
I don't like the way the question is framed. I'm pro-Tuiaki in that I want to see BYU and Tuiaki succeed. But I would
Unibro
11/1/21 9:49am
I support Tuiaki. Frankly, a lot of the criticism thrown his way comes from
SJS
11/1/21 9:56am
But... he doesn't limit points. He limits posessions. They still score at will
Geldir
11/1/21 10:14am
Why should someone's job security be based on your unrealistic expectations?
Byron McNertney
11/1/21 10:25am
why is it unrealistic to expect better performance on scoring per possession
Deleted
11/1/21 10:26am
Because BYU is not Alabama. Based on recruiting and opponents, expecting BYU's
Byron McNertney
11/1/21 10:57am
alabama is a long ways away from 70th. many common opponents didnt have the same ease of drive vs other teams
Deleted
11/1/21 11:05am
BYU is near 70th in recruiting and most opponent offenses have been 100% P5
Byron McNertney
11/1/21 11:38am
This exactly
BYU313
11/1/21 1:58pm
So if BYU scores more points, then why would this matter?
OldFogey
11/1/21 1:15pm
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cougargollum
11/1/21 1:43pm
As noted above PPG isn’t a good metric to evaluate… points per drive is better….
kotacoug
11/1/21 10:21am
70th right now with our strength of schedule and lack of depth and talent on the
Lesgo Brandon
11/1/21 10:39am
Our strength of schedule is ranked #50 so I’m not sure if we can use that in
kotacoug
11/1/21 10:49am
Yep. Sitake and Tuiaki know more about defense and these players than any CBer.
Byron McNertney
11/1/21 10:23am
IMO thats a dumb argument, basically saying no fans can ever criticize any coordinator. some are bad. So does howell. do
Deleted
11/1/21 10:27am
You can criticize all you want, but when all is said and done, I'm going to give
Byron McNertney
11/1/21 10:39am
Fans can of course criticize, but other fans can also make fun of these fans 🙂
Lesgo Brandon
11/1/21 10:39am
RE: Fans can of course criticize, but other fans can also make fun of these fans
SJS
11/1/21 10:59am
I’m pretty confident that Bronco Mendenhall knows more about defense than all
SJS
11/1/21 11:01am
I am sure lots of fired coordinators or HCs know more and still are fired and their replacements do better
Deleted
11/1/21 11:11am
Problem is even when we blitz we don't get home. It's a personnel issue after
CalGTR
11/1/21 12:13pm
Problem is we don't disguise blitzes or any other defenses that we run.
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 12:16pm
Sure, we’re winning games, but what about points per possession? -kota probably
SJS
11/1/21 1:13pm
He is paid a lot of money (more than most of us) and has a lot more experience
ImuaKahuku
11/1/21 1:08pm
RE: I support Tuiaki. Frankly, a lot of the criticism thrown his way comes from
imdocrob
11/1/21 2:29pm
RE: I support Tuiaki. Frankly, a lot of the criticism thrown his way comes from
imdocrob
11/1/21 2:33pm
Because he is still learning. He is basically brand new at his job. Give him
rockhound
11/1/21 10:12am
is this a joke? hes been there since 2016
Deleted
11/1/21 10:28am
That'd be news to Bronco
Blueto
11/1/21 10:31am
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Deleted
11/1/21 10:32am
No joke. I'm better at my job than I was five years ago.
rockhound
11/1/21 1:15pm
That doesn't help your point. He is pretty much the same.
Geldir
11/1/21 3:13pm
This isn't year 6 for him?
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 10:28am
as a relative ignoramus (to the coaches not to CB) it seems one of the
yahtzee
11/1/21 10:30am
You play to win the game even when that means it's a risk adverse style on D
Lesgo Brandon
11/1/21 10:41am
He's Sitake's buddy--keep Kalani happy. Plus, don't think that KS doesn't weigh
Parker Schnabel
11/1/21 10:32am
That Oregon St D was....well... I won't go there
kimdaddy35
11/1/21 10:50am
Horrible? Yup.
Parker Schnabel
11/1/21 1:45pm
Are you serious??? We are 17th in the country and 7-2 with the toughest
kosmokramer
11/1/21 12:29pm
Because he has held 5 teams to 20 points or less which is a kind of magic…
Silvex
11/1/21 1:00pm
Our offense held them that low. Those teams were mostly more efficint against us
Geldir
11/1/21 3:17pm
I love Tuiaki. We're 18-3 in last 21 games. Ranked almost entire time. Wake up!
gocougs719
11/1/21 1:23pm
Reasons Tuiaki should go:
Horacio Caine
11/1/21 1:45pm
"Well, imagine our record if we didn’t have the 80th or worse defense" Nonsense.
Silvex
11/1/21 1:58pm
Since hes been here. We didn’t need to lose to Baylor because they were favored
Horacio Caine
11/1/21 2:15pm
We didn't need to lose, but you can't hang the L on the defense. Everyone...
Silvex
11/1/21 3:28pm
Forget Baylor. This isn’t about Baylor. It’s about our D sucking for 6 years
Horacio Caine
11/1/21 5:46pm
So tell me, coach, what percentage of plays against UVA were "drop 8". My guess
airwolf
11/1/21 2:14pm
That analysis has already been done here for several games and shows the trends
Horacio Caine
11/1/21 2:17pm
Which trend? The trend of winning football games?
airwolf
11/1/21 2:56pm
You must have meant the trend of the 80th ranked defense.
Horacio Caine
11/1/21 3:07pm
I just happen to agree with A-Rod, final score is all that matters.
airwolf
11/1/21 4:33pm
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Horacio Caine
11/1/21 5:44pm
What do you think of the responses to your question so far. I have question for you: what was your assessment of our
CLCougar
11/1/21 1:49pm
One thing I love about Bronco that many have forgotten...
Horacio Caine
11/1/21 1:53pm
Yeah, I'm surprised we don't play more 3-4
Parker Schnabel
11/1/21 2:07pm
His 3 3 5 was also very good- he just realized he had the talent to go 3-4
1984coug
11/1/21 3:22pm
Wasn't all that great for byu as we don't have an oversupply of DB' compared
Parker Schnabel
11/1/21 5:01pm
His 3-3-5 at BYU was not good at all. It’s what precipitated the need to change.
Horacio Caine
11/1/21 5:47pm
Tuiaki and I differ in defensive strategy. But he has coached and I havent.
SportsRoad
11/1/21 1:59pm
Sitake is tired of people questioning Tuiaki. From DesNews/Jay Drew:
OldFogey
11/1/21 2:35pm
Kalanis loyalty to IT will get eventually get him canned- he can only protect
1984coug
11/1/21 3:26pm
I don't agree with your take, but see why you say it
OldFogey
11/1/21 3:54pm
18-3. Wins over P5 teams. Wins over P5 teams with winning records. Solid DB
HONOMO
11/1/21 2:39pm
RE: For anyone who is still pro Tuiaki - why?
drdukejones
11/1/21 2:53pm
I'm glad you asked. We haven't discussed this enough
deljdc
11/1/21 2:55pm
The team is 7-2. No one on CB thought this would be the case. So, he’s doing
Mathew
11/1/21 3:08pm
BYU just jumped 8 spots in the AP poll. Kalani says Tuiaki was a big part of
cougargollum
11/1/21 3:26pm
Great points. Those wanting Tuiakis head are in essence calling Kalani a liar or too blinded by friendship to be truste
CLCougar
11/1/21 3:47pm
And that blunder was clearly on the offense and special teams.
Silvex
11/1/21 3:49pm
because we require much better evidence than the garbage haters accept/provide
Rodolpho
11/1/21 3:59pm
How about (with the exception of UVA) holding good teams to an average 19.4 pts.
Jasbo
11/1/21 4:03pm
Because literally every stat you used is skewed. You couldn't be more off.
Geldir
11/2/21 8:32am
The numbers aren't skewed, they are facts. BYU won on Saturday, too, ftr
OldFogey
11/2/21 9:53am
Right. But they are being used to draw inaccurate conclusions.
Geldir
11/2/21 11:27am
There's nothing inaccurate about 7-2 & avg pts allowed, bro. It was a rough
OldFogey
11/2/21 11:41am
Actually average points allowed is VERY misleading.
Geldir
11/2/21 12:02pm
I personally don't spend any time pondering this, but understand many do. I'm
OldFogey
11/2/21 12:36pm
Because he doesn't influence the game nearly as much as those who hate him think
ochobeeguy
11/1/21 4:05pm
Because this is high-level college football, not Remember the Titans
Gorgias
11/1/21 4:36pm
I have said this before. Many of the “pro tuiaki” people on here are less
Cougzilla
11/1/21 5:41pm
I can't believe anyone would want to fire Tuiaki right now. Here's why
MaxxPower
11/1/21 5:44pm
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