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Aug 22, 2020
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data and make up my own mind. Your personal stake in this matter is no greater than mine or anyone elses

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I'm getting heavily downvoted on Reddit by Big10 and Pac12 fans for linking to

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 8:35am

Typical Pac12 and B1G fans

YIsForBrigham

8/22/20 8:36am

Welcome to the woke left. Virtue signaling at its finest.

Adwight

8/22/20 8:36am

Come Nov. 4th COVID pandemic will be over and everyone can go back to normal.

Taysom 4 Heisman

8/22/20 8:44am

Only if Biden is elected. Otherwise it will continue on.

byuluvr

8/22/20 9:12am

So true, if Trump wins you will see Democrat governors try to take more power in their states for "safety"

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 9:45am

This might be the worst talking point on CB. Blind to the global reality.

ReyOso

8/22/20 9:51am

.003 IFR for everyone under 65. 5% for everyone over 65+. Half of the nation's

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 9:57am

None of that has anything to do with the GLOBAL part of the response.

ReyOso

8/22/20 10:10am

Lol, your only data point is the word GLOBAL. Was H1N1 global or the bird flu or the swine flu? The more data that comes

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 10:14am

The argument was that this is going to disappear after elections.

ReyOso

8/22/20 10:30am

I think you missed the point. The doomsday reporting of Covid19 will disappear after the election. We all know that is

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 10:35am

Are you going to fix global media, too?

ReyOso

8/22/20 10:42am

Are you talking about media coverage that supports the leftist leadership policy views in their country?

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:22pm

What I've gathered from this whole back and forth is that the media in every

GoatHerder

8/22/20 3:22pm

Because the U. S. response is very different than other country's responses and

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 10:16am

Our response is far more relaxed than many countries.

ReyOso

8/22/20 10:29am

Never heard someone compare responses by first world western countries to poor South American countries. By this

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 10:33am

More relaxed than Europe, NZ, AU, CA, too. But that's still missing the point.

ReyOso

8/22/20 10:37am

Give it up. You are never going to convince

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 10:56am

It's not a hoax. It's real. But with an IFR of .003 for anyone under 65. It's

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 11:07am

I haven’t heard anyone saying lots of children will die.

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 11:33am

I don't think it's the masks that are the problem. Lots of countries that didn't

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 11:43am

The major protests ended over a month ago and both sides

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 12:15pm

What statistics do you have to support your views? Also, i have said at least 3 times on this thread that I think that

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:20pm

I am getting my data directly from the CDC and Johns Hopkins.

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 1:10pm

They didn't have second waves because they'd already reached herd immunity. As

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 2:34pm

You are talking out of both ends. You can’t claim outdoor protests were a major

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 2:42pm

27 million people protesting shoulder to shoulder often without masks is likely

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 2:50pm

I’m not disagreeing that being in large crowds

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 3:14pm

I certainly do think they make a difference. I don't know if we should go back

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 3:23pm

I’m also not advocating a return to lockdowns although what a “lockdown”

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 4:37pm

Did you not see what I wrote about herd immunity being reached at 20%? This is

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 1:03pm

Yes I saw what you wrote. That is a theory

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 1:06pm

If that were true then why did Cuomo show in one of his press conferences that 60% of the positive cases came from

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 1:10pm

I have no idea what you are referring to and I am

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 1:20pm

I don't believe the pandemic is conspiracy theory...however

MHOP

8/22/20 4:37pm

I completely agree with you that shouldn’t get medical advice from a politician.

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 5:04pm

So the only thing about my post that you agreed with was you shouldn't

MHOP

8/22/20 6:16pm

Haha you and those of your political persuasion are the ones who have made it

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 11:06pm

You can't tell me you trust the reported cases and deaths of countries

MHOP

8/22/20 11:28pm

A common tactic. When the numbers are so overwhelmingly against your position,

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 11:46pm

Ironically those "cherry picked" countries have populations significant

MHOP

8/22/20 11:58pm

Not sure which theory you are referring to which is suddenly blown up because a

yourfamilydoc

8/23/20 12:14am

I honestly would love to put away the politics

MHOP

8/23/20 12:30am

I certainly don't want to downplay the costs related to the initial lockdowns.

yourfamilydoc

8/23/20 12:49am

This is what you said above. This theory is completely debunked

MHOP

8/23/20 12:42am

Ok I do grant you that. I guess I meant in comparison to the countries we can

yourfamilydoc

8/23/20 12:55am

RE: I don't believe the pandemic is conspiracy theory...however

boctabulous

8/22/20 7:33pm

So when guys like Bill Maher say I hope the economy

MHOP

8/22/20 10:12pm

RE: So when guys like Bill Maher say I hope the economy

boctabulous

8/22/20 10:50pm

Wait...so they did get money for stuff they wanted unrelated to the pandemic?

MHOP

8/22/20 11:43pm

RE: So when guys like Bill Maher say I hope the economy

boctabulous

8/22/20 10:52pm

I know...lol, right...haha. Thanks for setting the record straight.

MHOP

8/22/20 11:35pm

What do they call trying to highlight the most extreme views that a small proportion of your ideological opponents might

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 11:20am

I could care less what the media has to say about anything.

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 11:36am

Is that with New York and New Jersey included in the data? Because I don't think

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 11:44am

If MA, RI, DC, LA were nations they'd have the highest death rate in the world.

ReyOso

8/22/20 11:53am

The highest IFR, CFR, deaths per million, what metric are you using here?

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 12:08pm

3 out of 4 are Democrat run states, what does this prove?

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:25pm

If Arizona, Mississippi, Georgia and Florida were their own

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 12:03pm

Seems like you are cherry picking, why no NY, NJ, PA, RI and DC there

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:26pm

Because Cougartail just told me including NY, NJ et al isn’t fair because they

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 1:14pm

All your facts are based on worldwide statistics...and you pretend to not know

MHOP

8/23/20 12:55am

This is just not true, Sweden is the first example that comes to mind.

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 11:21am

You people love to bring up Sweden and compare it to the US.

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 11:41am

You people, lol. Where are your economic statistics to support this

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:27pm

Sweden, a country with multiple built in advantages

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 1:27pm

RE: Our response is far more relaxed than many countries.

boctabulous

8/22/20 1:55pm

Europe had a way worse initial wave then the U. S.

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 2:28pm

RE: Europe had a way worse initial wave then the U. S.

boctabulous

8/22/20 2:35pm

Everything about Covid is likely or maybe. If you talk about it with great c

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 2:37pm

RE: Everything about Covid is likely or maybe. If you talk about it with great c

boctabulous

8/22/20 2:41pm

Possible. But you brought no logic or data to back up your theory. Whereas mine

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 2:54pm

RE: Possible. But you brought no logic or data to back up your theory. Whereas

boctabulous

8/22/20 3:18pm

RE: None of that has anything to do with the GLOBAL part of the response.

imdocrob

8/23/20 7:41am

Nice try, Rey.

COACHdrn

8/22/20 7:11pm

99,96 survival rate is hardly a pandemic

chazen

8/23/20 3:10am

Out of touch with the realities of politics.

Ash

8/23/20 6:17am

Rey, how do you get your information on what other countries are doing?

kiyoshige

8/23/20 8:25am

I agree wholeheartedly. You shouldn’t go to the media

yourfamilydoc

8/23/20 9:00am

I never thought I'd see the day where I would recommend twitter for reliable

kiyoshige

8/23/20 10:00am

I’m not recommending a specific platform

yourfamilydoc

8/23/20 10:24am

Yes but how do you vett those "sources"

kiyoshige

8/23/20 10:32am

I agree with you. It is very difficult.

yourfamilydoc

8/23/20 2:34pm

But I also think you’ll see riots like crazy everywhere

Adwight

8/22/20 10:44am

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The Brig

8/22/20 1:35pm

Literally no one on this thread is saying that.

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 1:37pm

Direct quotes from this thread:

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 1:44pm

RE: Literally no one on this thread is saying that.

boctabulous

8/22/20 1:58pm

RE: Come Nov. 4th COVID pandemic will be over and everyone can go back to

boctabulous

8/22/20 1:51pm

Total joke, based on a study of middle-aged people....

Coog4Life

8/22/20 8:59am

It has to be so frustrating to be a young healthy college athlete and have your school take away your ability to do

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 9:47am

As you should. The study cited has some odd

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 9:56am

So we should just cancel the hopes and dreams of young athletes based on a study

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 10:01am

I have a daughter who is a college athlete

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 10:21am

What does this mean? You have a daughter who is a college athlete so...?

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 10:24am

I don't disagree with you that Covid is certainly a problem. Especially for the

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 10:29am

Doesn’t it seem like a leap to use data from ~45 year olds and apply to 18-23

Coog4Life

8/22/20 10:05am

No it doesn't, we all need to be afraid!

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 10:16am

We don't have large studies yet.

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 10:25am

Is the myocarditis typically temporary? And what percentage of young Covid

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 10:30am

I do have kids but not college age but I have no problem with them going to school, playing with friends and

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 10:37am

You're entitled to your opinion, however,

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 11:34am

I've seen way more facts from CourgarTailDevourer than you in this thread. Are you arguing death rate per million?

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:28pm

Again, your opinion is not based on a strong foundation

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 12:38pm

I didn't form my opinion based CB posts and never said anything close to that. i just appreciate the attempt to use some

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:42pm

This isn't a debate to be won

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 1:03pm

You're pleading with me to agree with your view on Covid that isn't supported by any official data I have seen. I'm

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 1:08pm

Myocarditis can be treated, and most respond well. However, the weakening of

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 11:36am

So it seems that it's just more the fact that it is an unknown at this point

CougarTailDevourer

8/22/20 11:46am

No, I wouldn't say that.

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 12:32pm

So the medical community is one large monolith? When you say large numbers of young people, can you provide data?

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 12:36pm

No. I won't. You're making a mistake. Please listen

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 1:05pm

I'm a student of history and I know where "listen to the experts or the authorities" leads. I can look at CDC and other

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 1:07pm

You don't sound like a student of anything

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 1:17pm

Address my argument without personal attacks. Why does it always go there? "Listen to the experts" is flawed logic

RealMadridCougar

8/22/20 1:19pm

Amazing the number of virologists, epidemiologists, physicians

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 1:50pm

Here's an honest question...in your experience in healthcare

MHOP

8/22/20 4:47pm

I’m sorry for your friend. That’s not typical. I feel like there may be more

Forcedoc

8/22/20 6:17pm

I agree...it probably isn't typical but true

MHOP

8/22/20 6:43pm

Yup!

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 6:57pm

Yup, too!

Forcedoc

8/22/20 6:59pm

Students want to learn, then they form opinions based on their learning

TCCETDOG

8/22/20 2:11pm

No, letting non-experts decide is flawed logic

Bolso

8/22/20 2:17pm

The experts have tried to make compelling arguments. They have just been

yourfamilydoc

8/22/20 3:32pm

I wouldn't say the medical community is unanimous in their decisions

kiyoshige

8/23/20 10:05am

Reddit is trash. I go there when I want a good laugh at all the nutjobs in

Chasicle

8/22/20 10:47am

BleedCougarBlue2

8/22/20 4:33pm

Admitting you made a mistake absolutely terrifies some people. 🙁

BleedCougarBlue2

8/22/20 4:34pm

PAC12+B1G = Most arrogant group of universities not in Ivy leagues.

TrueBlue67

8/22/20 5:18pm

Facts about Big 10 and Pac 12

DocIzzy

8/22/20 6:21pm

Other facts about Big 10 and Pac 12:

Forcedoc

8/23/20 6:14am

I mean, Russell M. Nelson knows a thing or two about cardiology seeing as he

CougarTailDevourer

8/23/20 8:10am

I'm not sure how to respond to this

TCCETDOG

8/23/20 9:37am

It was TIC as the person I was replying to was touting PAC12 superiority

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