but these games do not occur in a vacuum. Its not like there were not

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Nov 23, 2015
11:32:53am

deckard667 Contributor

but these games do not occur in a vacuum. Its not like there were not

mitigating circumstances. BYU's line was decimated by injury and suspension, but I agree with you that BYU should have won by more. Teams who should stomp on a particular opponent struggle against mediocre teams on occasion. Look at Florida last weekend. Florida needed overtime at HOME to beat a 2-8 Florida Atlantic. Now I am sure that Florida's talent level is better than BYU's, They have only 1 loss with an SEC schedule, but they needed FREAKING OVERTIME against FL Atlantic.

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Having to endure junk like this is slowly pushing me back on to the Fire Bronco

Revolution

11/23/15 9:31am

RE Nick Vigil

Y05

11/23/15 9:38am

Huh?

Sirrinem

11/23/15 9:43am

You're thinking of his brother. Zach.

Sirrinem

11/23/15 9:44am

oops

Y05

11/23/15 9:50am

Nick Vigil will be running the ball again on Saturday....

11/23/15 10:12am

Nick Vigil had 16 carries for 57 yards. 3.6 yards a carry.

BarraCouga

11/23/15 11:17am

i would add

Y05

11/23/15 12:20pm

That offsides penalty was a killer. IIRC, he jumped way off sides.

BYUHawk

11/23/15 1:15pm

Lol. Vigil's drive-saving runs were absolutely critical

reddead

11/23/15 12:34pm

Hill picked up two yards on that play. It was 3 and 5.

BarraCouga

11/23/15 1:14pm

I was firmly in place on the Bronco Train, but losses at UCF and at home to UNR

TheDeek

11/23/15 9:40am

Agreed. Those two games did it for me too.

BabyOx

11/23/15 10:14am

BYU goes into prevent mode - Bronco tries to hold on (UCLA 10 pt 4th qtr lead)

farsurfer

11/24/15 10:41am

Last year's game was a big disappointment, and I think Bronco deserves criticism

deckard667

11/23/15 9:44am

Comparing Bronco to Lavell drives me nuts. Lavell built the program, won a NC and had some fantastic seasons.

slowhiteguy

11/23/15 9:59am

If Cougar Board were around in the 80's and 90's Lavell would have endured the

deckard667

11/23/15 10:17am

Again, Lavell had taken the program from nothing to a NC team. He earned the patience. Bronco has not.

slowhiteguy

11/23/15 10:26am

Restating your flawed theory does not address my points....

deckard667

11/23/15 10:35am

Did Crowton? No he almost buried the program. Bronco took a program that was in

deckard667

11/23/15 10:42am

Labeling me a hater because I feel he has reached his ceiling is pretty lame. Until he does something more than he has

slowhiteguy

11/23/15 10:48am

How long past those 11-2 seasons would it be appropriate to disregard them, IYO?

Revolution

11/23/15 10:52am

When there are no longer any players on the team that played those years?

Revolution

11/23/15 10:53am

Good Question....I think they should buy him some good will, but many do not....

deckard667

11/23/15 11:09am

The problem also is that now the schedule is much tougher than in any year under

deckard667

11/23/15 11:11am

I'm not asking for undefeated. I'm asking him not to lose to USU. I'm asking

Revolution

11/23/15 11:23am

but these games do not occur in a vacuum. Its not like there were not

deckard667

11/23/15 11:32am

Keep the debate to now. Our schedule is ranked 67th.. So try again.

11/23/15 4:08pm

A big consideration with Bronco's schedule is always the number of MWC calibur

Revolution

11/23/15 11:21am

Should the same consideration be placed on Lavell? Its not like the WAC or MWC

deckard667

11/23/15 11:26am

I didn't follow BYU football, or any College football back then, so I don't know

Revolution

11/23/15 11:33am

So let me enlighten you. In the 80's it was BYU and everyone else in the WAC

deckard667

11/23/15 1:03pm

Ok. So there you have it. Lavell's record was inflated.

Revolution

11/23/15 1:13pm

and let me enlighten you

Y05

11/23/15 2:16pm

Nope. Lavell won a NC. That gives him a very long leash, period. Some fans

Ash

11/23/15 10:54am

You really don't think CB'ers would not have starting being critical of Lavell

deckard667

11/23/15 11:03am

I think that at the end the game may have passed him up. That happens to coaches

Ash

11/23/15 12:40pm

And you realize the only chance BYU has at the 4 team playoff is to go 12-0....

deckard667

11/23/15 1:08pm

YSite, CougarNet

HawkeyeCoug

11/24/15 10:05am

One more thing to add to Lavell's column that often gets overlooked...

Kuga

11/23/15 10:31pm

Not sure BYU would've won that game even with Hill playing

checoug

11/23/15 2:00pm

How is the train moving in the right direction? We look the same as every year

dchandle15

11/23/15 3:34pm

Garretson is a good QB

CoopDizz

11/23/15 9:47am

Yep. PAC12 QB now. AS we all know, that is the be all end all of everything.

11/23/15 10:00am

It will be interesting to see how he does in Corvallis

CoopDizz

11/23/15 10:05am

The way things are going in Corvallis, he probably wishes he was back in Logan.

BabyOx

11/23/15 10:15am

Chances are, we face Chuckie Keeton to start on Saturday.

Pete

11/23/15 10:18am

Sounds good to me. BYU has always been good at shutting him down.

BabyOx

11/23/15 10:21am

You negate one of your reasons (Vigil)

shakarocks

11/23/15 11:32am

I think USU is about at their ceiling. Their recruiting pool is quite small....

deckard667

11/23/15 11:36am

They rebuilt a lot of their facilities

shakarocks

11/23/15 11:45am

If you are going to keep saying "face it" then lets get real. You are dead

deckard667

11/23/15 5:46pm

I'm very familiar with both facilities

shakarocks

11/23/15 6:09pm

They just reworks the football stadium and reduced capacity even more. They

deckard667

11/23/15 7:55pm

I went to BYU

shakarocks

11/23/15 8:11pm

you don't say.

Revolution

11/23/15 11:40am

Wow. That was really condescending. Garretson is a good player

reddead

11/23/15 12:18pm

Sorry Sister Garrettson or is it Gilbertson... I don't remember.

Revolution

11/23/15 12:27pm

I think you missed my point

reddead

11/23/15 12:46pm

RE: Having to endure junk like this is slowly pushing me back on to the Fire

Trustblue

11/23/15 3:15pm

If I was CEO of an underperforming company and lost to

Revolution

11/23/15 5:33pm

How has he exceeded your expectations and is that a reflection of Him or you?

11/23/15 4:01pm

RE: How has he exceeded your expectations and is that a reflection of Him or

Revolution

11/23/15 5:23pm

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