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Jun 27, 2024
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AZ Coug
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This happened in the high school where my FIL lives and they fired the coach
and charged the kids with sexual assault (as they should have). The kids who were 18 are now registered sex offenders (as they should be).
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Feeling a little down about the future of the human race today...
lilpenny
Jun 27, 10:57am
Call the school. That would never fly in my area. I am shocked to hear about stuff like this being phrased as
Baron
Jun 27, 11:03am
"Boys will be boys" refers to rough play, NOT sexual harrassment. Extremely
ninja math
Jun 27, 7:04pm
Not harassment, assault.
ochobeeguy
Jun 28, 9:08am
That's sexual assault. Don't let it slide
unsq312
Jun 27, 11:06am
CALL IMMEDIATELY and REPORT
karatekid
Jun 27, 2:04pm
This
MasterOfMyDomain
Jun 27, 2:18pm
It is assault. If the coach AND school don't give satisfactory responses, police
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 2:36pm
Call the police first. The school will try to sweep it under the rug. Can’t hurt
GilbertAZCougar
Jun 27, 4:48pm
This needs to be reported immediately.
marticorp
Jun 27, 11:06am
That needs to be a call to the principal of the school TODAY. If she doesn't
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:06am
Please speak with his parents and encourage them to report this to the admin.
Hambone
Jun 27, 11:08am
If it turns into a title IX complaint, then the final report will have all
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:13am
I'd use the words "unwanted sexual contact"
El Jefe
Jun 27, 11:13am
I would use the words "Utah Criminal Code 79-7-702.1(1)."
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:31am
I'm afraid reporting the abuse would just make things worse for the victim
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:19am
If this is in Utah, you could also report the incident anonymously using the
Hambone
Jun 27, 11:25am
I would worry that the bullies are smart enough to figure out who ratted on them
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:29am
If the Safe UT is done anonymously, they will never know who filed it...However,
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:32am
I'm sorry but I was the football coach who responded "boys will be boys"
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:38am
I didn't say Title IX..I said SafteUT app....WAY different...however, since the
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:43am
My bad, I'm not familiar with the differences but I still wouldn't rock the boat
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:45am
Going the Title IX route would escalate the situation, most likely, to the
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 11:53am
There's no way they only targeted less than five of the underclassmen
slatecoug
Jun 27, 5:19pm
RE: I would worry that the bullies are smart enough to figure out who ratted on
Sid Vicious
Jun 27, 12:10pm
This is a hard thing to do but if you think of the alternative it sometimes help
Bin01015
Jun 27, 11:40am
That does suck and can be a reality
Carnac
Jun 27, 11:40am
This is why we are losing our rights in today's society. No one will stand
Blue for Life
Jun 27, 12:37pm
If you report it, it will be a net positive.
Threw and Through
Jun 27, 2:43pm
Sorry, I meant to reply to the OP. I agree with your position, obviously.
Threw and Through
Jun 27, 2:46pm
Disagree with this take. I know someone close who holds a lot of
cougarim
Jun 27, 12:52pm
If/when there is retaliation against a good faith report… should be 0 tolerance.
BYU'01
Jun 27, 3:25pm
I’d be a lot more worried about repeat offenses
stoils
Jun 27, 4:12pm
They are doing this to multiple victims. It needs to be stopped.
ochobeeguy
Jun 28, 9:18am
I'm sorry for your nephew & that this garbage continues
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:09am
First, that is on the coach. Second, many schools do varsity only camps to
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:10am
Agree with the other posters. Has to be stopped. How rough for your nephew. I
RocketCoug
Jun 27, 11:13am
Call Principal and report. It will be followed up on.
DrinkSuin
Jun 27, 11:15am
“I guess he wasn’t meant to play football” - his coach probably
maxpowers
Jun 27, 11:19am
Coach wasn't meant to coach HS football--the law probably
Carnac
Jun 27, 11:38am
You or your sister need to report. You can BM with the information and I will
kansascougar
Jun 27, 11:20am
That absolutely needs to be reported. That is sexual harassment/battery.
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:23am
Call the police and report it as a sexual assualt. This shouldn't be tolerated.
bald man
Jun 27, 11:26am
Reality is that if he did call the police, then camp is over for his team and if
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:32am
It will help a lot of other kids in the future though.
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:34am
It's unfortunate, but these aren't 10 year-old kids. They are borderline adults
Belboz
Jun 27, 11:37am
I agree. But are they willing to make this kid's life worse to help others?
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:39am
That is a fair consideration.
YSMACK
Jun 27, 11:39am
This is the issue for me - I'm not sacrificing my kid to help some other kids
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:42am
You're already sacrificing your kid by the approach you advocate.
rmsenior
Jun 27, 12:37pm
The word for this is "cowardice."
shimmy
Jun 27, 1:17pm
I appreciate the different opinions and thoughts
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 1:26pm
Think of other kids who might be getting much much worse treatment. Why wouldn’t you try to stop sexual abuse?
Yllage Vidiot
Jun 27, 6:23pm
The nephew will be hurt by staying on the team, because bullies won't stop
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 2:51pm
All because nobody said anything the previous times they did this too.
ochobeeguy
Jun 28, 9:16am
That is a myopic view. Let’s help my kid through this by being quiet?
Bin01015
Jun 27, 11:46am
Is my child helped more by reporting the bullies?
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 11:58am
This is based on lack of trust in the process. As for me, I can’t stand aside
Bin01015
Jun 27, 12:16pm
Why would the bullying stop by not reporting? It won't. Not reporting allows
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 2:54pm
I got the impression he was quitting football due to the incident
BYU Fan
Jun 27, 3:09pm
Talk to the kid. Work out how to proceed together
NYC and Japan
Jun 27, 8:29pm
Sorry but that is a poor take. Yes it sucks sometimes to do the right
bald man
Jun 27, 11:40am
By calling the police? If it was my son I'd already be at the camp and have a
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:48am
They will know who reported. or at least it won't be hard to find out. but
bald man
Jun 27, 12:05pm
Also, this kid probably isn't the only one. I'd contact other parents with kids
Chester Copperpot
Jun 27, 11:50am
If this behavior is happening, then camp should end for all
CoolB
Jun 27, 1:49pm
So sorry for this awful experience.
DizzyDean
Jun 27, 2:23pm
Are you speaking from experience or conjecture?
Boring
Jun 27, 4:21pm
It may be because I’m a mandatory reporter (as a licensed pediatrician) but I would consider someone who didn’t report
Yllage Vidiot
Jun 27, 6:45pm
It's bad for your nephew, but he's not the only whose safety is at risk
Belboz
Jun 27, 11:35am
If true, coach about to get fired
Carnac
Jun 27, 11:38am
And a potentially big payday for your nephew.
Q-grr
Jun 27, 3:30pm
As a HS Principal, PLEASE CALL THE PRINCIPAL! This is not ok!
Tweege
Jun 27, 11:41am
I agree I am also a high school principal. The principal needs to know.
brickwall
Jun 27, 7:19pm
I'm happy to invite the coach over to see if he can do the Impossible Sit-Up.
HBCoug
Jun 27, 11:45am
Coach would be fired and program shut down in our area if that was swept under
IGlowInTheDark
Jun 27, 11:48am
This happened in the high school where my FIL lives and they fired the coach
AZ Coug
Jun 27, 11:53am
Former football coach here: take that directly to district leadership.
Adwight
Jun 27, 11:58am
In addition to reporting it, document names of others this was happening to as well as those perpetrating it.
BW84
Jun 27, 11:59am
Dang, we just had to sing the school fight song in front of the team.
XORCoug
Jun 27, 12:03pm
Report it today. Raise hell. Sue if they don't take decisive action.
Still Blue
Jun 27, 12:19pm
Report things and communicate by email. There are administrators who absolutely
byubyu
Jun 27, 12:28pm
Yup..document, document, document...I'd add there are A LOT admin who absolutely
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
Jun 27, 12:45pm
There are also a lot who let it slide. Go above their head.
Adwight
Jun 27, 11:15pm
This is why you go above their head straight to district.
Adwight
Jun 27, 5:09pm
I coach HS football. This would NEVER be tolerated here. I feel awful for him.
SJS
Jun 27, 12:37pm
I coach HS football. This event was specifically discussed
Homo Erectus
Jun 27, 12:53pm
Report. Coach should be fired. Boys will be boys is no excuse. Shameful
Doogal McCougar
Jun 27, 12:57pm
You’ve got to report this to the police. Not funny. Not a “boys will be boys”
APowerfulY
Jun 27, 1:00pm
Save any text messages, call logs, and have his sister write out what she can
kd_coug
Jun 27, 1:25pm
Make a stink about it. Make it public. Shame the coach. Make it stop.
TailgateU
Jun 27, 1:28pm
I think some hazing is fine but you can definitely go overboard with it. The sex
bookofdaniel
Jun 27, 1:46pm
The problem is hazing creeps upward. It has to be clearly defined what hazing is
Q-grr
Jun 27, 3:36pm
Example--Utah Jazz
Carnac
Jun 27, 4:27pm
Ok for professionals, but not high school. So many teens are having a hard
TailgateU
Jun 27, 5:09pm
Like I said before, I think a little hazing is fine. I think we are getting
bookofdaniel
Jun 27, 10:05pm
What positive benefit does it have over being a good teammate and building up
Bin01015
Jun 27, 10:14pm
I didn’t say anything about it being better than building someone up. But if a
bookofdaniel
Jun 28, 6:30am
The point of hazing it to belittle or embarrass. It's damaging.
TailgateU
Jun 28, 8:15am
I think teasing is going to happen and maybe that is what you are referencing.
Bin01015
Jun 28, 10:28am
So the experience mentioned above with the Jazz and back packs. Teasing or
bookofdaniel
Jun 28, 12:55pm
Professional athletes are in a very different situation compared to HS students.
TailgateU
Jun 28, 2:18pm
Coach has to follow safesport or some similar program. This is a hard violation and NEEDS to be reported.
AltTabbins
Jun 27, 2:08pm
football camp for my son's team was cancelled this year because of a hazing
lukeskywalker
Jun 27, 2:19pm
would like a follow up for sure please
karatekid
Jun 27, 2:22pm
I am surprised that things like this still happen
cougarBee
Jun 27, 2:25pm
I hope you report. But I also fear the social repercussions for your nephew.
zerome4sooners
Jun 27, 4:52pm
Sadly, could be a lawsuit. Maybe should be! I’m sorry for your nephew!
Bushmaster
Jun 27, 5:03pm
This is absolutely terrible. Fire the coach today.
ImaFBfan
Jun 27, 5:49pm
Call the police now and report it.
Brisket
Jun 27, 6:13pm
If you love kids, you have to report this.
Oatmeal
Jun 27, 6:30pm
I consider it mandatory. If you know this is going on and don’t report it, you are part of the problem.
Yllage Vidiot
Jun 27, 6:46pm
I'm a lawyer and I generally don't love personal injury lawyers, but this is
Christopsomo
Jun 27, 7:59pm
Zero tolerance for the behavior and response.
BringYourUltimate
Jun 27, 8:40pm
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