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Oct 3, 2019
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BleedCougarBlue2
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And it's a clean program now, correct? If so, that's another plus for him.
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Jay Hill is currently 37-28 lifetime. Thoughts?
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:21am
There are zero slam dunk candidates
donnerstag
10/3/19 10:22am
When has there ever been a slam dunk candidate for BYU?
ataylor
10/3/19 10:24am
True, but so far he's 2-10, 6-5, 7-5, 11-3, 10-3, 1-2. Notice the upward...
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:32am
Also, his 2 losses this year came in close road games to SDSU and Nevada.
Byron McNertney
10/3/19 10:39am
That's called "punching above your weight". Can anyone see that need @ BYU?
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:41am
Every September for the foreseeable future
Bonoman
10/3/19 1:54pm
Weber was on NCAA probation when Hill took over.. (reduced Scholarships)
TheLost
10/3/19 10:42am
And it's a clean program now, correct? If so, that's another plus for him.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:44am
From what i've seen... Its a great program...
TheLost
10/3/19 10:54am
Clean program: Bonus! Side note: That's a Division II locker room? Man!, how..
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 11:06am
(Technically is a D1 program... FCS)
TheLost
10/3/19 11:10am
Ok, but any way you say it, they are a smaller program than BYU. That locker...
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 7:18pm
Crowton. Success as an HC with LA Tech and a respectable stint as an NFL OC.
vagabonder
10/3/19 10:32am
That was the only one that came to my mind as well. Not a good sign.
ataylor
10/3/19 10:35am
Hmmm....IMO very doubtful the BoT would give him a 2nd chance due to so....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:47am
I didn't say he should be rehired, only that he was a slam dunk hire at the time
vagabonder
10/3/19 10:48am
Gotcha.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:59am
Whittingham in 2005 was the most slam dunk candidate ever
donnerstag
10/3/19 10:35am
Sure. I was thinking more of guys with head coach experience, but yeah.
ataylor
10/3/19 10:43am
While he didn't have HC experience, BYU was competing with Utah
donnerstag
10/3/19 10:47am
Right.
ataylor
10/3/19 10:50am
Whitt struggled in the beginning of PAC. Depth helps.
Benfica1
10/3/19 11:13am
Crowton was about as slam dunk as could be as OC for the Bears
Croweater
10/3/19 3:16pm
Bingo
Coug Man in Florida
10/3/19 1:41pm
If Sitake ends up being done, I'll bet it's >90% chance Jay Hill gets the job.
RdF3
10/3/19 10:24am
Sources close to Jay Hill say that he doesn't want the BYU job
donnerstag
10/3/19 10:37am
Maybe he really does think that, but once an actual job is offered and the contract is put on the table, I bet he would
RdF3
10/3/19 10:39am
Even if he'd be interested, he doesn't have a track record coaching
donnerstag
10/3/19 10:41am
And the coach with a winning track record at the FBS level is ....
BYU Fan
10/3/19 10:45am
I agree, but I think he’d be the most impressive candidate.
RdF3
10/3/19 10:47am
Paul Peterson should get a look
donnerstag
10/3/19 10:51am
How's he doing at Dixie?
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:52am
He's 3-1 so far
donnerstag
10/3/19 10:54am
Looks like he's doing it with poor QB play too...
mokelembembe
10/3/19 11:14am
He’s who I’d have hired at offensive coordinator both after 2015 and 2017.
ataylor
10/3/19 10:55am
Would you rather hire an FBS HC with a "losing" record? Not me. Winners win.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:51am
Yeah, but would you really want a him? The next coach needs to have a vision
Pasadena
10/3/19 10:45am
He may not want to worry about all the extra hassles at BYU
BYU Fan
10/3/19 10:49am
"My" expectations (long range)....9+ wins a season, beat Utah at least 50% of..
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:58am
Even if you take out Kalani's 0-4 start
displacedute
10/3/19 4:54pm
Nope. Win at least half the games. That's how you maintain a true rivalry,...
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 7:31pm
You're setting yourself up for some very frustrating decades.
displacedute
10/3/19 9:47pm
So you obviously expect me to roll over and die? My expectations are mine.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/4/19 2:30pm
I told you that your own expectations are your prerogative.
displacedute
10/4/19 3:06pm
Unless Weber State is his dream job....
cougarnw
10/3/19 3:55pm
Doubtful. He's young and competitive. What kind of young, winning, competetive
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 7:33pm
"Sources"? Surely BYU HC pays more than Weber HC.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:49am
What sources are those?
mwcoug
10/3/19 11:11am
lol
cougarnw
10/3/19 2:04pm
Didn't people say exactly this about Mark Pope?
Resurgens
10/3/19 2:59pm
But is he in a bishopric?
LifelongAP
10/3/19 10:27am
Im sorry but we don’t need more utes coaching us, or presidents of our university, or anywhere near BYU 🙂
Hank Rearden
10/3/19 10:30am
I'd take the yewtiest yewt there is if they won games & followed BYU's....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:35am
That's what Utah did with a Cougar, worked out well for them
Resurgens
10/3/19 3:00pm
He's also 21-6 in his last 2 full seasons. 10 of those 28 losses were in his
KingDave
10/3/19 10:31am
One thing I like about Hill is that he took a program that was down in the dumps
Faceman
10/3/19 10:33am
^^^^^ Ding! Ding! Ding! "We have a winner!" You got it.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 10:39am
His last 2 years were 11 win seasons and he just beat a ranked team
BigYfan
10/3/19 10:33am
He took over a program that was 2-10 & 2-9 in the two seasons before he arrived
CaliWG
10/3/19 10:40am
Fesi Sitake & Preston Hadley worked for Jay Hill as well at Weber St
BYU Fan
10/3/19 10:40am
He'd probably be a good coach. You never know.
Benfica1
10/3/19 11:19am
He will be the next BYU HC. Anae is the best candidate, but his personality will
Backcountry
10/3/19 11:40am
You are right on 2 of 3.....Crowton was a head coach.
Real G Man
10/3/19 11:43am
NFL OC immediately before BYU, right?
Backcountry
10/3/19 11:44am
He was a HC at NE Louisiana or some directional school.
Real G Man
10/3/19 12:06pm
I didn't realize that. That dude had a wild career.
Backcountry
10/3/19 12:16pm
Also, OC at Oregon, LSU and Maryland.
Benfica1
10/3/19 2:53pm
Hmmmm, don't believe that BYU is known as a lousy HC job. Difficult maybe.
Benfica1
10/3/19 12:42pm
If Drew Hill only gets 6-7 wins a season, I wouldn't hire him. We can, and....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 4:08pm
Historically, Weber State did not fare well against the upper tier of the Big
Gentleman Stan
10/3/19 11:54am
Jay Hill isn’t coming....
Vernon Dozier
10/3/19 11:55am
If you are connected, and it's true an active LDS dude won't leave a low end FCS
Backcountry
10/3/19 11:56am
I don't care what your sources are, he would come it offered
CaliWG
10/3/19 12:03pm
I have to agree with this.
Backcountry
10/3/19 12:16pm
The BYU job might not offer great job stability you coach at BYU with P5 loaded
franklyvulgar
10/3/19 12:32pm
Agree completely
Backcountry
10/3/19 1:14pm
Hill turned down the OC job at Utah
TheLost
10/3/19 1:22pm
Because he wanted to be a head coach
CaliWG
10/3/19 1:27pm
That shows both integrity & wisdom in not simply chasing $; both r impressive.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 7:47pm
He can sit back and take his 300K HOPING another offer comes along, or he can
cougaman
10/3/19 12:39pm
He's a good coach. A better job is a very real possibility. Utah will have a
Backcountry
10/3/19 1:15pm
He may wait 4-5 years to have a POSSIBILITY to get the Utah head coaching job,
cougaman
10/3/19 1:21pm
Which is why i can see him taking the BYU job.
Backcountry
10/3/19 1:23pm
End your coaching career? That's the case with any job. Would you suggest he
cougaman
10/3/19 1:27pm
BYU is a dead end. Expectations are unrealistic relative to available resources
Backcountry
10/3/19 2:11pm
It certainly killed Broncos career... Sitake just isn't good enough.
cougaman
10/3/19 2:32pm
Different eras
Backcountry
10/3/19 2:43pm
Yes, it was a whole 3 years ago!
cougarnw
10/3/19 3:56pm
I don't know if it is a "job killer" per se...
Eddie
10/3/19 2:59pm
Good analysis. I sure wish I knew just how much the BoT/senior LDS leaders...
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 7:59pm
That would be nice to know.
Eddie
10/4/19 10:53am
I don't know if I agree with that analysis. If you are good enough to get an
cougaman
10/3/19 8:06pm
Like I said - I'm not sure I completely agree with the analysis. Just sharing it
Eddie
10/4/19 10:50am
And USU/SDSU and others may very well be on par, but there is at least 10 times
cougaman
10/4/19 10:58am
Again - if that's their perception, that's their perception.
Eddie
10/4/19 11:08am
Well, if it comes to that, BYU can make the offer and see what happens.
cougaman
10/4/19 3:16pm
BYU a "career killer": totally disagree. Just need the right HC; winners win.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 7:54pm
How many good HC jobs do you think are out there? He'd take BYU if offered.
Benfica1
10/3/19 1:44pm
Like I said, I agree. But I would understand it if he turned BYU down.
Backcountry
10/3/19 2:11pm
Do you think a P5 program is going to offer an FCS coach a head job?
CaliWG
10/3/19 1:57pm
Utah is a real possibility
Backcountry
10/3/19 2:12pm
Mike Price went from HC at Weber to HC at Washington State. I believe it was
LongtimeUtahfan
10/3/19 10:37pm
If he keeps winning at Weber, other offers will most definitley come!
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 7:49pm
Im sure he deeply appreciates you speaking for him
cougarnw
10/3/19 2:15pm
I personally know Jay Hill
Wildcat70
10/3/19 6:03pm
I’ve worked with him
CaliWG
10/3/19 6:09pm
The Utah job is Scalley’s or Anderson’s
Vernon Dozier
10/3/19 8:38pm
Wildcat is correct. I’ll leave it at that.
Vernon Dozier
10/3/19 8:37pm
You forgot to mention Mike Leach any chance there active LDS req aside
franklyvulgar
10/3/19 12:27pm
We are also not getting rid of Kalani
BYUvermont
10/3/19 12:35pm
I think if we don't go to a bowl game, he'll be gone. I think that would be...
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 8:04pm
Looks like someone that would be in between Sitake and Bronco. I think Anae
BlueForLife
10/3/19 12:43pm
Hill isn't my first pick, but I think he would be better than Sitake
Jericho
10/3/19 2:59pm
Scalley?
saltlakecoug1
10/3/19 3:37pm
RE: Scalley?
BigYfan
10/3/19 4:17pm
Scalley is about as red Utah
Srg
10/3/19 5:55pm
Maybe so but I'd take him if he proved loyal to BYU & if he won. BTW, KW was...
BleedCougarBlue2
10/3/19 8:06pm
I like scalley but I’d be surprised
Srg
10/16/19 4:43pm
If Kalani gets cut loose, I hope BYU goes with an experienced HC next.
Eddie
10/17/19 8:31am
>>We're not going to get Whittingham.<< Good. He’s an awful fit, and not who
Nogi-oshi
10/3/19 8:35pm
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