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POLL: Other than Steve Young, who is the best NFL player to come out of BYU?

Ja'Crispy

3:25pm

Is there anyone in this board who would like Dart to come to BYU? Nobody has said anything for 10 minutes about it.

TADOW Truly Addicted User

3:24pm

We could have had him if (hypothetical 1) or (hypothetical 2). Somehow we can't spell his name right either, like Gerry.

AltTabbins

3:26pm

Trivia of the Day: What did Jamaal Williams call Ty Detmer in 2016 when Ty was his OC?

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

3:23pm

TFD?

SingleStrapBackpack

3:25pm

Nope, he may have called him that once, but he consistently called him by this name

kimdaddy35

3:26pm

A middle aged vanilla man?

Reasonable1

3:26pm

POLL: End of week sanity check - Does Dawson Baker have a mustache?

Hup

3:20pm

What are your best Dutch oven recipes?

coug719

3:17pm

I want Tie Detmer. Jake had lots of success last year but Tie is just so

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

3:17pm

Oh, you mean Jayke?

Carnac

3:20pm

RE: Oh, you mean Jayke?

kimdaddy35

3:21pm

POLL: Other than Steve Young, who is the best NFL player to come out of BYU?

Ja'Crispy

3:17pm

If McMahon hadn't been crippled, he'd be in the HOF

Indy Coug

3:18pm

Best "NFL Player" and you didn't include Taysom? Taysom's position is "NFL Player".

AltTabbins

3:19pm

Haha good point, can't believe I forgot him

Ja'Crispy

3:21pm

Ok, I'll make another poll

Ja'Crispy

3:21pm

I think Puka and Fred end up 2 and 3. Right now I would go with either Oates or Christensen.

kimdaddy35

3:20pm

Ryan Rehkow! 🫡 But really, Rob Morris should be on this list too.

coug719

3:20pm

Missing Bart Oates

shakarocks

3:22pm

He’s up there

coug719

3:25pm

Todd Christensen, then Fred Warner

RealTaysomHill

3:24pm

People voting McMahon are insane

RealTaysomHill

3:25pm

Ok, new poll with Taysom and Morris is up

Ja'Crispy

3:26pm

Is there anything more American than this?

scootsy Truly Addicted User

3:09pm

Suing the gun manufacturer

Indy Coug

3:13pm

Is this the Amazon worker?

2FarGone

3:15pm

Amazon has since reached out and reversed this fwiw

bythenumbers

3:25pm

It is interesting that the final 4 teams competing for B12 CC berths were...

lbmango

3:07pm

Yeah, adding those teams strengthened the weakened Big 12 after Texas/Oklahoma left

RealTaysomHill

3:09pm

Get Rid of All D1 Bowl Games...

lbmango

3:03pm

Nah...get rid of bowl venues and have 1st/2nd round games be on campus.

Thrill

3:07pm

Or make the first round be neutral at the very least if you must have bowls.

coug719

3:19pm

What about when the 4th weekend in Dec is the 28th like last year?

goidcougs

3:09pm

Just take the top bidders and change conference championships into bowls.

AltTabbins

3:20pm

setting up a fly rod/reel for the first time... so many knots

tyler durden

3:03pm

But good heavens, spinner fishing is super boring.

311polo

3:09pm

For a good all around dry fly experience, but you can also do other styles

311polo

3:14pm

I would add a tippet ring between leader and tippet, then your leader never

Spine

3:16pm

Xavion Staton featured in a Desert Sun article.

Mostlyaccurate

3:03pm

POLL: Which is the better team

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

3:00pm

we dont know

Count Cougar

3:03pm

Actually, we do

Indy Coug

3:04pm

Not enough info

Carnac

3:17pm

!!!!!!!!!

775coug

3:04pm

What if each of the 0-12 teams that the first team beat were equal to the second team (0-12)? Then team A is clearly

mvtoro

3:04pm

Who's better at basketball, the guy who beat 12 4th graders by one or the guy who lost to 12 NBA players by one?

RealTaysomHill

3:06pm

But why would you assume that the 12-0 teams are actually any good when you’re arguing that the 0-12 team is better?

mvtoro

3:10pm

No, there's not enough info. So that's why you look at other information, such as SOS, SOR, predictive metrics, etc.

RealTaysomHill

3:15pm

That’s what I said. Not enough info to determine either way. That’s why you leave assumptions about who is “better” to

mvtoro

3:22pm

Too extreme

775coug

3:16pm

Depends on which one is in the SEC

mapl3Coug

3:07pm

Whichever one is BYU

2FarGone

3:11pm

There is a way to find out

Carnac

3:11pm

True, but it looks like they may have already played, and if they did, 12-0 team won by a point.

mvtoro

3:15pm

Where does it say they already played?

Carnac

3:18pm

It doesn’t. I said with the info provided they “may” have played, and team A won. The data would fit perfectly. But team

mvtoro

3:20pm

These hypotheticals man..

AltTabbins

3:14pm

They're ridiculous hypotheticals and ridiculously easy to make the right selection

Indy Coug

3:15pm

So the 12-0 team played 12 0-12 teams? And the same season there existed a 0-12

kcca

3:17pm

BYU had the 13th most difficult SOS in the Big12, per Sagarin

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

2:57pm

Just think...Utah's would have been lower if they could have played themselves

The Chief

2:59pm

One thing about SOS is winning makes it a weaker SOS. If we had gone 2-7 instead

gwalker

3:02pm

That’s surprising with SMU as an OOC game

Odysseus

3:03pm

Wyoming basically nullified them.

kimdaddy35

3:05pm

You're looking in the wrong place. It was our conference schedule that sunk us with this measure.

Indy Coug

3:06pm

Oh I'm aware. But Wyoming nullified the none conference playing SMU. The 17th best team and the 109th best

kimdaddy35

3:14pm

The very unequal Big12 conference schedule worked very hard in our favor

Indy Coug

3:05pm

If the conference would've shaken out as it was picked to they would've had one of the most

jvr7

3:14pm

Which goes to show that none of these polls or metrics are worth anything, just the opinion of the CFP committee.

AltTabbins

3:17pm

NIL Media Reports

The Chief

2:57pm

In reference to schedule makers, and conferences foes, here is the riddle of the

BYU I Bleed Blue

2:51pm

They announced the schedule on 1/30/2024 last year

Indy Coug

2:52pm

I know, we still have a long ways to go, that is why I was joking about

BYU I Bleed Blue

2:57pm

If there's a god in heaven, this will happen

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

2:45pm

If you were a true follower, you wouldn't wish this upon anyone.

Undefeated

3:11pm

The only SEC team to make the final 4 is 1st year member Texas.

Mister P

2:42pm

Former Big 12 member Texas

WDaddy

2:43pm

Thought about this. Then I remembered the only Big 12 to get in

CougaRR4L

2:44pm

New Hardcore History episode just dropped

DKN

2:38pm

Literally thought this was a history of hardcore music. Thought was weird

MD Rebel Coug

2:41pm

RE: Literally thought this was a history of hardcore music. Thought was weird

scootsy

2:43pm

OR staff would hate me if I was a surgeon.

MD Rebel Coug

2:45pm

RE: Literally thought this was a history of hardcore music. Thought was weird

Sea Chicken

2:44pm

It's a very strong recommend for this podcast series.

Indy Coug

2:44pm

Like the series and the topics, don't like his dramatic voice

TheLoanArranger

2:48pm

Same. I have much preferred the History of Rome guy. And the other history

Plato

3:06pm

I love his stuff. It's always a pain to wait the 6 months for the next episode.

P-Widdy

2:46pm

He only releases one every six months?

2FarGone

3:17pm

POLL: With the exception of the Texas vs ASU game, bowl games have been more entertaining than the CFP games

HuskerFan2

2:35pm

The ND v Georgia game was competitive and entertaining

Accipiter

2:41pm

I've only watched a couple others.

SWKTNative

2:44pm

Changes to the CFP that I think should be made.

ohiocougar

2:33pm

I think the home games are dumb

2FarGone

2:37pm

Who said BYU fans were soft?

DudeBro

2:42pm

Playing football in 10 degree weather is fine, but sitting in the stands and watching it truly sucks.

2FarGone

2:49pm

It’s in the 50s in Provo right now

Charles Darwin

2:56pm

Totally disagree. Should make them all home games except the final.

Frankfromtheballpark

3:20pm

The home team doesn't even get to keep the revenue, so why bother with the effort?

2FarGone

3:24pm

I’d give G5 teams their own playoff.

CougFan4EverEver

2:38pm

there needs to be a chance for a Cinderella to do something,

It's A Bowling Ball

2:45pm

Recommendations for electric go-karts

Pwride

2:33pm

Our Razor go karts worked for a decade replacing the battery a few times.

JAGA97

2:35pm

Took a Waymo from Marina Del Rey to Santa Monica. Pretty good customer

Florida Man

2:32pm

I thought it's only been tested in SF and Phoenix. I took it last October from

Genghis Spreads

2:35pm

Looks like it started West LA Service on November 12

Florida Man

2:38pm

They are all over the west side now. I live near LMU

1manwolfpack

2:43pm

Is the Waymo tech going to be the rival to Tesla with auto makers using it

JoMax

2:45pm

RE: Took a Waymo from Marina Del Rey to Santa Monica. Pretty good customer

libertycoug

3:22pm

Is this poster actually looking for cheapest way to get ESPN+ ?

Cougrrrs Roll

2:30pm

What channel is it on Direct TV?

DieHarder

2:31pm

RE: What channel is it on Direct TV?

Indy Coug

2:31pm

1172.

rainorsnow

2:33pm

Correct, but the category is college football so I think he is actually looking

RGGeemer

2:32pm

BYU football is over for the year

Cougrrrs Roll

2:38pm

It's not the BYU football category

RGGeemer

2:56pm

I'm thinking he is actually looking for ESPN+ to watch BYU basketball

Cougrrrs Roll

3:14pm

He’s looking for ESPN Flagship (soon to have a name) which launches next fall.

rainorsnow

2:35pm

I understand why people hate it this season, but FPI is a decent model

bythenumbers

2:28pm

as BamaCoug has stated several times today on CB and Twitter FPI was wrong 52%

Schultz is back

2:31pm

Read my post on model calibration. I don't think I agree with his method.

bythenumbers

2:35pm

I understand how models work and that taking one game in isolation doesn't prove

Schultz is back

2:43pm

You shouldn't just evaluate the prediction but the degree of confidence

bythenumbers

2:51pm

I want Jackson Dart.

Deacon4life

2:25pm

Hmmmmmmmmm

TNT

2:25pm

I can think of one pretty good reason not to make it

darkcoug

2:26pm

Do you have a Time Machine?

NYCougz

2:26pm

Dart is going pro

2FarGone

2:26pm

I want a toilet seat made of solid gold

MormonThug

2:26pm

But why?

TNT

2:27pm

RE: I want a toilet seat made of solid gold

MrSandman

2:27pm

RE: I want a toilet seat made of solid gold

bluesloth

2:33pm

He's done in college.

Adrielle

2:26pm

He still has another year if he wants it.

tacallaway

2:33pm

Is this because of his JuCo hear at USC while they were still Pac12?

Yucaterco

2:40pm

Actually, I'm wrong, I thought he filed a waiver to get back the USC year.

tacallaway

2:44pm

Could definitely be worth a swing on Day Two. What’s your NFL team?

DieHarder

2:26pm

Dart rhymes with...

Benfica1

2:29pm

Any relation to Jaxson Dart?

foofcoug

2:29pm

We already have "Jackson" Dart at home.

AltTabbins

2:57pm

Had Jaren Hall not been returning he'd have been ours.

dYrtbYkerYder

3:16pm

So, were blaming Jaren.

2FarGone

3:17pm

I want a pet unicorn

davidmj10

3:18pm

Is three nights at an all-inclusive enough if you are not planning to leave the

RH84025

2:24pm

If you're on the west coast, 3 nights in Cabo is plenty but not ideal. I've did

reagan21

2:26pm

We have one we've gone to the past two years, did 5 nights each time

wannnacruise

2:37pm

I think 0 days in Cabo is perfect

maxpowers

2:38pm

Who should be the champion?

Carnac

2:24pm

Article: Big 12 showdown at Houston will tell us a lot about Kevin Young’s first BYU basketball team View

[Deseret News]

2:21pm

Let’s hope it’s better than their only other true away game.

idcougarfan

2:41pm

This slowmo video of the INT in the Alamo bowl is cool.

RexIdaCoug

2:20pm

how many jews play for BY....oh, slowmo. Sorry.

reagan21

2:22pm

Reactions of people on sidelines in the background after the hit and before the

Crowd Factor

2:25pm

Is that Taylor McGregor in the black sparkly getup? She seemed impressed.

UCLACoug

2:46pm

Are those leather pants? Asking for a friend.

RobAdams

3:12pm

The ball hanging there like the table cloth was pulled is awesome

Akilleez

2:31pm

I stayed up way too late last night watching this. Was so good though. Took 33

Undefeated

2:19pm

I stayed up waaay to late last night watching Juror 2 and

Crowd Factor

2:28pm

My wife and daughter just finished watching Juror # 2 a few minutes ago

Coug98

2:40pm

I watched that early this year. It was very interesting

RexIdaCoug

3:09pm

POLL: Who are you more likely to want included in the CFP?

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

2:18pm

what if it's the same team?

reagan21

2:19pm

Nope. Not the hypothetical given here.

Indy Coug

2:19pm

Whichever team is BYU

2FarGone

2:21pm

If you voted for Utah St., you’re a flat earther.

Indy Coug

2:22pm

How is revenue sharing going to jive with title IX

Big12Yfan

2:15pm

NIL (name image and likeness). Hopefully that's enough to keep equity and title IX at bay.

fldnstrm

2:18pm

ESPN FPI: The purpose of a system is what it does

Bobber Contributor

2:13pm

Assuming bad faith because you disagree with the results is ridiculous.

TCuz

2:18pm

And assuming good faith with ESPN is far more ridiculous, naive, or just plain

Mitty

2:25pm

You can empirically test its accuracy.

Indy Coug

2:19pm

According to this, it's one of the best out there when it comes to predicting

cougarfan84

2:25pm

It’s toasting most of the other 54 rankings listed.

Indy Coug

2:27pm

I saw your post on this earlier.

fanbraves10

2:43pm

The top 40 rating systems are all between 69-72% accurate at predicting the winner?

Bobber

3:15pm

Is CB still upset over the transfer of Crew Wakley? Didn't look like we missed him at all in the bowl game...

Adrielle Board Misanthrope

2:11pm

No. But some are still sad about Crew Wakley.

foofcoug

2:12pm

Who? Not all, Damuni is the future and played well the last few games

pegushin

2:12pm

He's going to be an animal.

ChinaFan

2:17pm

That sack in the bowl game. He got to Sanders like a missile

Adrielle

2:19pm

He takes horrible angles and it has happened multiple times in multiple games

Big12Yfan

2:35pm

He does need to improve open-field tackling.

LeGrandBleu

2:36pm

Wasn't upset. Would have preferred to keep him. Haven't looked at the numbers

byubyu

2:13pm

He won't be missed.

Adrielle

2:15pm

RE: He won't be missed.

foofcoug

2:21pm

<< Deleted >>

Adrielle

2:23pm

#SlammedIt

Sid Vicious

2:37pm

i wonder what his teammates think.

Belboz

2:56pm

Why say this?

porl thompson

2:24pm

Because of the recent rumors…

kalifi

2:30pm

Ouch.

Benfica1

2:27pm

Damuni, Satuala, Prassas, Leach all have higher ceilings

arizonacougarfan

2:18pm

Kabeya looks to be the really-good-but-small dude to replace Robinson at Nickel

SinkingQuffa

2:32pm

but Wakley's basement was so much lower that he was a tough loss

Belboz

2:33pm

I think you meant higher.

SinkingQuffa

2:36pm

I meant what I wrote and understand that it may be very confusing

Belboz

2:52pm

Gotcha. We more or less agree then.

SinkingQuffa

3:04pm

1 of those plays strong safety...

chilawcoug

3:25pm

Crew was a key piece for us — & likely was a diff-maker in a game or two for us

SinkingQuffa

2:19pm

He just may have been the difference maker in a few games.

cougaman

2:21pm

At least one

El Careeb

2:23pm

CB consensus is he was unlikely to have future impact and wishing him well

vagabonder

2:19pm

Only cuz he's not likely to get the opportunities he did this season. Crew's a

SinkingQuffa

2:23pm

Yes. There was a reason he was starting over the others.

Texas_forever

2:20pm

Why did he lose playing time?

Jeffacka

2:57pm

Coaches trying to keep other kids happy.

Texas_forever

3:10pm

Not anymore

El Careeb

2:22pm

I am sad that he is gone as he was a very good player. That being said BYU is very deep there

kimdaddy35

2:23pm

Still upset? I'm not sure I saw that reaction from CB

CougarCanuck76

2:24pm

I thought I did at the time, now I’m not so sure

cougaman

2:36pm

Wakley was good for BYU. Upset? Hope he does well.

Benfica1

2:26pm

that's unfortunately questionable

Belboz

2:33pm

Hope he considers coming back if he gets no better P4 offers. I'm guessing

SinkingQuffa

3:17pm

It's fine to thank him for what he did, not minimizing his contributions while

RockyBalboa

3:16pm

ESPN+
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Great work by Bamacoug in exposing ESPN's FPI rankings:

Chaz Ah You - coaches lied

No rivalry game in November and last four games are away.

I want Jackson Dart.

BYU is ready to pay the $20.5M to its Athletes this Spring

So cool to see in slow motion

Catchings was in a slump for awhile with a very poor shot selection. Young mentioned he wanted Kanon to focus

was looking at the big12 matchups this Saturday on ESPN and had to laugh at the

Who says no?

BYU should go after him. Offered him in 2021

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