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Jan 3, 2025
3:04:05pm

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

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Indy Coug

Bio page: Indy Coug
Joined: Dec 20, 2001
Last login: Jan 5, 2025
Total posts: 190,207 (10,160 FO)

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Time

POLL: Which is the better team

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

Jan 3, 3:00pm

we dont know

Count Cougar

Jan 3, 3:03pm

Actually, we do

Indy Coug

Jan 3, 3:04pm

Not enough info

Carnac

Jan 3, 3:17pm

!!!!!!!!!

775coug

Jan 3, 3:04pm

What if each of the 0-12 teams that the first team beat were equal to the second team (0-12)? Then team A is clearly

mvtoro

Jan 3, 3:04pm

Who's better at basketball, the guy who beat 12 4th graders by one or the guy who lost to 12 NBA players by one?

Jan 3, 3:06pm

But why would you assume that the 12-0 teams are actually any good when you’re arguing that the 0-12 team is better?

mvtoro

Jan 3, 3:10pm

No, there's not enough info. So that's why you look at other information, such as SOS, SOR, predictive metrics, etc.

Jan 3, 3:15pm

That’s what I said. Not enough info to determine either way. That’s why you leave assumptions about who is “better” to

mvtoro

Jan 3, 3:22pm

But based on the information we have, it's ok to make a choice. In reality, we will never have enough information

Jan 3, 3:29pm

That’s why you create a system where evaluations of “better” don’t matter (or matter as little as possible). Most

mvtoro

Jan 3, 4:41pm

We do have a system of “just win.”

Jan 3, 4:55pm

We don’t. We have a system where arbitrary ranking decides access and seeding. You may have more wins than I do, but if

mvtoro

Jan 4, 10:38am

Please list the teams who won their games and should have gotten in that didn’t

Jan 4, 10:50am

And how should I determine who should have gotten in and didn’t? Just give you my opinion on who was better? That’s the

mvtoro

Jan 4, 11:01am

Too extreme

775coug

Jan 3, 3:16pm

Depends on which one is in the SEC

mapl3Coug

Jan 3, 3:07pm

Whichever one is BYU

2FarGone

Jan 3, 3:11pm

There is a way to find out

Carnac

Jan 3, 3:11pm

True, but it looks like they may have already played, and if they did, 12-0 team won by a point.

mvtoro

Jan 3, 3:15pm

Where does it say they already played?

Carnac

Jan 3, 3:18pm

It doesn’t. I said with the info provided they “may” have played, and team A won. The data would fit perfectly. But team

mvtoro

Jan 3, 3:20pm

These hypotheticals man..

AltTabbins

Jan 3, 3:14pm

They're ridiculous hypotheticals and ridiculously easy to make the right selection

Indy Coug

Jan 3, 3:15pm

So the 12-0 team played 12 0-12 teams? And the same season there existed a 0-12

kcca

Jan 3, 3:17pm

If they didn’t play each other hard to say, that’s why round robin tournaments

franklyvulgar

Jan 3, 3:29pm

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