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I like pointing out BYU players in the NFL who casual fans don’t know such as

LSUcougar92

3:43pm

RE: If McMahon hadn't been crippled, he'd be in the HOF

foofcoug

3:42pm

So much sadness and anger

Indy Coug

3:43pm

Probably. Crazy they didn't even throw a penalty flag on that play. That guy would probably be kicked

kimdaddy35

3:44pm

I don't know about that. His stats were pretty pedestrian even before his

Jdoc

3:44pm

He played on a team in the 80s that was still stuck in the 50s offensively

Indy Coug

3:45pm

NiU to MWC, LOL

byubyu

3:31pm

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ByuCrusader

3:31pm

Link

Dark Forest Green

3:35pm

They beat BYU by a point in 2018 and now they think they can rule the world

Indy Coug

3:35pm

Laugh now, but who will the Pac-12 get as their 8th team? They'll need one.

Art Director

3:36pm

I hope they steal Utah. 🙂

HuskerFan2

3:38pm

MWC will need to get in line behind the B1G if they want UU to join. 😉

cougarmeister

3:40pm

Sac State

STL

3:42pm

Why LOL?

RGGeemer

3:37pm

Geography maybe?

reddead

3:40pm

Certainly no worse than some other conference adds

RGGeemer

3:40pm

Too bad it's not for all sports.

Doogal McCougar

3:41pm

They're really milking that Notre Dame win

CougarCanuck76

3:45pm

Laugh all you want but they’ve might just beaten the national champ head to head in the year they won.

RdF3

3:45pm

POLL: Other than Steve Young, who is the best NFL player to come out of BYU?

Ja'Crispy

3:25pm

The amount of recency bias in these results is crazy.

LSUcougar92

3:28pm

Could be true, who else you got?

Ja'Crispy

3:29pm

Paul Howard was a fundamental piece to his team forever

LSUcougar92

3:34pm

Taysom is a better player at several positions that others that only play that position. Hes the best "NFL Player".

AltTabbins

3:28pm

Did you not watch football in 1985?

LSUcougar92

3:30pm

Well I was 2 years old so tell me how it was

Ja'Crispy

3:34pm

fuzzy

Turd Ferguson

3:39pm

VGA

franklyvulgar

3:43pm

Taysom Hill is not near the 2nd best pro to come out of BYU. Unique to our time period when everything

kimdaddy35

3:39pm

He's not a better TE than other BYU TEs, not a better QB than many BYU WBs, not

Plato

3:42pm

*Vai

foofcoug

3:29pm

He should respect his GA's!

kimdaddy35

3:41pm

Here's the top 10 by AV and where some other players of interest end up

krindorr

3:29pm

I don’t see Chad Lewis at all on that list

bubbastats

3:34pm

Added him, he just wasn't one of the ones I'd chosen to list first

krindorr

3:36pm

Well you took off my vote of 5 time pro-bowler and 2 time champion Bart Oates.

kimdaddy35

3:30pm

He didn't have any All Pros though

RealTaysomHill

3:33pm

You're right, Oates should be on there

Ja'Crispy

3:35pm

According to NFL.com, here is what they say...

Ja'Crispy

3:33pm

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DudeBro

3:40pm

Is there anyone in this board who would like Dart to come to BYU? Nobody has said anything for 10 minutes about it.

TADOW Truly Addicted User

3:24pm

We could have had him if (hypothetical 1) or (hypothetical 2). Somehow we can't spell his name right either, like Gerry.

AltTabbins

3:26pm

*Ignoring reality, Dart's remaining eligibility, his projected draft status, current NIL package from a school

Indy Coug

3:27pm

Trivia of the Day: What did Jamaal Williams call Ty Detmer in 2016 when Ty was his OC?

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

3:23pm

TFD?

SingleStrapBackpack

3:25pm

Nope, he may have called him that once, but he consistently called him by this name

kimdaddy35

3:26pm

A middle aged vanilla man?

Reasonable1

3:26pm

RE: A middle aged vanilla man?

kimdaddy35

3:26pm

RE: Trivia of the Day: What did Jamaal Williams call Ty Detmer in 2016 when Ty

Dark Forest Green

3:31pm

Ding, ding, ding, ding ding! We have a winner. "Big Belly" or "Coach Big Belly"

kimdaddy35

3:33pm

RE: Trivia of the Day: What did Jamaal Williams call Ty Detmer in 2016 when Ty

kimdaddy35

3:33pm

POLL: End of week sanity check - Does Dawson Baker have a mustache?

Hup

3:20pm

And a mullet.

Parker Schnabel

3:31pm

What are your best Dutch oven recipes?

coug719

3:17pm

I want Tie Detmer. Jake had lots of success last year but Tie is just so

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

3:17pm

Oh, you mean Jayke?

Carnac

3:20pm

RE: Oh, you mean Jayke?

kimdaddy35

3:21pm

POLL: Other than Steve Young, who is the best NFL player to come out of BYU?

Ja'Crispy

3:17pm

If McMahon hadn't been crippled, he'd be in the HOF

Indy Coug

3:18pm

Best "NFL Player" and you didn't include Taysom? Taysom's position is "NFL Player".

AltTabbins

3:19pm

Haha good point, can't believe I forgot him

Ja'Crispy

3:21pm

Ok, I'll make another poll

Ja'Crispy

3:21pm

I think Puka and Fred end up 2 and 3. Right now I would go with either Oates or Christensen.

kimdaddy35

3:20pm

Ryan Rehkow! 🫡 But really, Rob Morris should be on this list too.

coug719

3:20pm

Missing Bart Oates

shakarocks

3:22pm

He’s up there

coug719

3:25pm

Todd Christensen, then Fred Warner

RealTaysomHill

3:24pm

People voting McMahon are insane

RealTaysomHill

3:25pm

Ok, new poll with Taysom and Morris is up

Ja'Crispy

3:26pm

Per AV, the top 10 are....

krindorr

3:26pm

Is there anything more American than this?

scootsy Truly Addicted User

3:09pm

Suing the gun manufacturer

Indy Coug

3:13pm

Is this the Amazon worker?

2FarGone

3:15pm

Amazon has since reached out and reversed this fwiw

bythenumbers

3:25pm

It's not good for business...so no, it's not American.

Plantagenet

3:27pm

Plot twist: she was scheduled to be at work when the attack happened. J/K

toukokuu

3:28pm

It is interesting that the final 4 teams competing for B12 CC berths were...

lbmango

3:07pm

Yeah, adding those teams strengthened the weakened Big 12 after Texas/Oklahoma left

RealTaysomHill

3:09pm

Get Rid of All D1 Bowl Games...

lbmango

3:03pm

Nah...get rid of bowl venues and have 1st/2nd round games be on campus.

Thrill

3:07pm

Or make the first round be neutral at the very least if you must have bowls.

coug719

3:19pm

What about when the 4th weekend in Dec is the 28th like last year?

goidcougs

3:09pm

Just take the top bidders and change conference championships into bowls.

AltTabbins

3:20pm

Joel Klatt was talking about how too much travel can be too hard for fans

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

3:29pm

Yep. Tix for Texas - ASU were dirt cheap because Texas has so much travel

reddead

3:42pm

setting up a fly rod/reel for the first time... so many knots

tyler durden

3:03pm

But good heavens, spinner fishing is super boring.

311polo

3:09pm

we need to get you jigging for bass...

tyler durden

3:31pm

Also boring

letthewookieewin

3:42pm

For a good all around dry fly experience, but you can also do other styles

311polo

3:14pm

was gifted a nice hand made 9'rod a few years ago, and I mentioned my other reel

tyler durden

3:29pm

I would add a tippet ring between leader and tippet, then your leader never

Spine

3:16pm

I'll look into this.

tyler durden

3:30pm

You need to get into tying your own flies.

Paysoncoug88

3:29pm

Xavion Staton featured in a Desert Sun article.

Mostlyaccurate

3:03pm

A great get for KY.

Parker Schnabel

3:34pm

Cool look with the bald head, headband, and glasses. Looks like Kareem.

Unfrozen Caveman

3:38pm

I wonder if he is really 7'1". Based on what I have heard/seen it is more like 6'10". But maybe he has

kimdaddy35

3:43pm

POLL: Which is the better team

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

3:00pm

we dont know

Count Cougar

3:03pm

Actually, we do

Indy Coug

3:04pm

Not enough info

Carnac

3:17pm

!!!!!!!!!

775coug

3:04pm

What if each of the 0-12 teams that the first team beat were equal to the second team (0-12)? Then team A is clearly

mvtoro

3:04pm

Who's better at basketball, the guy who beat 12 4th graders by one or the guy who lost to 12 NBA players by one?

RealTaysomHill

3:06pm

But why would you assume that the 12-0 teams are actually any good when you’re arguing that the 0-12 team is better?

mvtoro

3:10pm

No, there's not enough info. So that's why you look at other information, such as SOS, SOR, predictive metrics, etc.

RealTaysomHill

3:15pm

That’s what I said. Not enough info to determine either way. That’s why you leave assumptions about who is “better” to

mvtoro

3:22pm

But based on the information we have, it's ok to make a choice. In reality, we will never have enough information

RealTaysomHill

3:29pm

Too extreme

775coug

3:16pm

Depends on which one is in the SEC

mapl3Coug

3:07pm

Whichever one is BYU

2FarGone

3:11pm

There is a way to find out

Carnac

3:11pm

True, but it looks like they may have already played, and if they did, 12-0 team won by a point.

mvtoro

3:15pm

Where does it say they already played?

Carnac

3:18pm

It doesn’t. I said with the info provided they “may” have played, and team A won. The data would fit perfectly. But team

mvtoro

3:20pm

These hypotheticals man..

AltTabbins

3:14pm

They're ridiculous hypotheticals and ridiculously easy to make the right selection

Indy Coug

3:15pm

So the 12-0 team played 12 0-12 teams? And the same season there existed a 0-12

kcca

3:17pm

If they didn’t play each other hard to say, that’s why round robin tournaments

franklyvulgar

3:29pm

BYU had the 13th most difficult SOS in the Big12, per Sagarin

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

2:57pm

Just think...Utah's would have been lower if they could have played themselves

The Chief

2:59pm

One thing about SOS is winning makes it a weaker SOS. If we had gone 2-7 instead

gwalker

3:02pm

That’s surprising with SMU as an OOC game

Odysseus

3:03pm

Wyoming basically nullified them.

kimdaddy35

3:05pm

You're looking in the wrong place. It was our conference schedule that sunk us with this measure.

Indy Coug

3:06pm

Oh I'm aware. But Wyoming nullified the none conference playing SMU. The 17th best team and the 109th best

kimdaddy35

3:14pm

The very unequal Big12 conference schedule worked very hard in our favor

Indy Coug

3:05pm

If the conference would've shaken out as it was picked to they would've had one of the most

jvr7

3:14pm

Which goes to show that none of these polls or metrics are worth anything, just the opinion of the CFP committee.

AltTabbins

3:17pm

TeamRankings has BYU ranked #33 for SOS nationally & #4 in Big12 for 24-25 here:

ByTheirFruits

3:38pm

NIL Media Reports

The Chief

2:57pm

I say It’s helping their Athletic life more then their student life.

calblue

3:27pm

In reference to schedule makers, and conferences foes, here is the riddle of the

BYU I Bleed Blue

2:51pm

They announced the schedule on 1/30/2024 last year

Indy Coug

2:52pm

I know, we still have a long ways to go, that is why I was joking about

BYU I Bleed Blue

2:57pm

If there's a god in heaven, this will happen

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

2:45pm

If you were a true follower, you wouldn't wish this upon anyone.

Undefeated

3:11pm

The only SEC team to make the final 4 is 1st year member Texas.

Mister P

2:42pm

Former Big 12 member Texas

WDaddy

2:43pm

Thought about this. Then I remembered the only Big 12 to get in

CougaRR4L

2:44pm

New Hardcore History episode just dropped

DKN

2:38pm

Literally thought this was a history of hardcore music. Thought was weird

MD Rebel Coug

2:41pm

RE: Literally thought this was a history of hardcore music. Thought was weird

scootsy

2:43pm

OR staff would hate me if I was a surgeon.

MD Rebel Coug

2:45pm

RE: Literally thought this was a history of hardcore music. Thought was weird

Sea Chicken

2:44pm

It's a very strong recommend for this podcast series.

Indy Coug

2:44pm

Like the series and the topics, don't like his dramatic voice

TheLoanArranger

2:48pm

Same. I have much preferred the History of Rome guy. And the other history

Plato

3:06pm

I love his stuff. It's always a pain to wait the 6 months for the next episode.

P-Widdy

2:46pm

He only releases one every six months?

2FarGone

3:17pm

POLL: With the exception of the Texas vs ASU game, bowl games have been more entertaining than the CFP games

HuskerFan2

2:35pm

The ND v Georgia game was competitive and entertaining

Accipiter

2:41pm

I've only watched a couple others.

SWKTNative

2:44pm

Changes to the CFP that I think should be made.

ohiocougar

2:33pm

I think the home games are dumb

2FarGone

2:37pm

Who said BYU fans were soft?

DudeBro

2:42pm

Playing football in 10 degree weather is fine, but sitting in the stands and watching it truly sucks.

2FarGone

2:49pm

It’s in the 50s in Provo right now

Charles Darwin

2:56pm

Totally disagree. Should make them all home games except the final.

Frankfromtheballpark

3:20pm

The home team doesn't even get to keep the revenue, so why bother with the effort?

2FarGone

3:24pm

I’d give G5 teams their own playoff.

CougFan4EverEver

2:38pm

there needs to be a chance for a Cinderella to do something,

It's A Bowling Ball

2:45pm

Interesting that the 4 teams that hosted Round 1 games are in the final 4

Doogal McCougar

3:41pm

Recommendations for electric go-karts

Pwride

2:33pm

Our Razor go karts worked for a decade replacing the battery a few times.

JAGA97

2:35pm

Took a Waymo from Marina Del Rey to Santa Monica. Pretty good customer

Florida Man

2:32pm

I thought it's only been tested in SF and Phoenix. I took it last October from

Genghis Spreads

2:35pm

Looks like it started West LA Service on November 12

Florida Man

2:38pm

They are all over the west side now. I live near LMU

1manwolfpack

2:43pm

Is the Waymo tech going to be the rival to Tesla with auto makers using it

JoMax

2:45pm

RE: Took a Waymo from Marina Del Rey to Santa Monica. Pretty good customer

libertycoug

3:22pm

Is this poster actually looking for cheapest way to get ESPN+ ?

Cougrrrs Roll

2:30pm

What channel is it on Direct TV?

DieHarder

2:31pm

RE: What channel is it on Direct TV?

Indy Coug

2:31pm

1172.

rainorsnow

2:33pm

Correct, but the category is college football so I think he is actually looking

RGGeemer

2:32pm

BYU football is over for the year

Cougrrrs Roll

2:38pm

It's not the BYU football category

RGGeemer

2:56pm

I'm thinking he is actually looking for ESPN+ to watch BYU basketball

Cougrrrs Roll

3:14pm

He’s looking for ESPN Flagship (soon to have a name) which launches next fall.

rainorsnow

2:35pm

I understand why people hate it this season, but FPI is a decent model

bythenumbers

2:28pm

as BamaCoug has stated several times today on CB and Twitter FPI was wrong 52%

Schultz is back

2:31pm

Read my post on model calibration. I don't think I agree with his method.

bythenumbers

2:35pm

I understand how models work and that taking one game in isolation doesn't prove

Schultz is back

2:43pm

You shouldn't just evaluate the prediction but the degree of confidence

bythenumbers

2:51pm

ESPN+
BYU Radio
Live Stats

Top 10 recent

Great work by Bamacoug in exposing ESPN's FPI rankings:

Chaz Ah You - coaches lied

No rivalry game in November and last four games are away.

I want Jackson Dart.

BYU is ready to pay the $20.5M to its Athletes this Spring

So cool to see in slow motion

Catchings was in a slump for awhile with a very poor shot selection. Young mentioned he wanted Kanon to focus

BYU should go after him. Offered him in 2021

Who says no?

was looking at the big12 matchups this Saturday on ESPN and had to laugh at the

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