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Jun 1, 2024
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Idacoug
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Fair. I’m gonna watch some film and fix my attitude.
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Why all the Kalani Hate?
myfriendryan
Jun 1, 1:55pm
People suck that’s why.
A Drew Aitch
Jun 1, 1:57pm
Or they're just looking at the situation in a simple-minded way
MaxxPower
Jun 1, 3:23pm
Certainly true for one game or even one season. We have 8 full seasons of data.
Forzaitalia
Jun 1, 3:32pm
Great point. You're right. The better perspective would be to analyze Kalani's
MaxxPower
Jun 1, 5:18pm
Do you watch the team play? There are issues everywhere
TNT
Jun 1, 1:57pm
Yes, haven’t missed a game in years.
myfriendryan
Jun 1, 2:07pm
Then you're part of the problem. Thn cause I can play eight year olds and go
CarolinaCoug
Jun 1, 2:15pm
I guess that somehow was logical?
OldFogey
Jun 1, 7:52pm
When Jay Hill was hired, he immediately started signing great recruits
Zip
Jun 1, 2:16pm
Has Kalani learned ANYTHING in the previous 9 yrs? No. Still clueless.
TeeKaa
Jun 1, 2:29pm
Fact check: 100% true unfortunately.
gopman
Jun 1, 3:33pm
Please Elaborate:
myfriendryan
Jun 1, 3:45pm
Respectable results? Besides covid-affected 2020 & 2021 what
gopman
Jun 1, 3:56pm
BYU hasn’t been relevant since 2009 (except for Kalani led 2020 & 2021)
arcawley
Jun 1, 5:34pm
jay hill was hired going into the first year of being P5. that had a LOT to do with it. not everything, but a lot
FieroCoug
Jun 2, 6:37am
The only game that mattered in 2020 was lost. And it was against the 7th or 8th best football team in the Carolinas.
Blue2thebone
Jun 1, 9:03pm
Wrong. Not even close. Lost to a ranked team traveling across the country on 2
NYC and Japan
Jun 1, 10:55pm
2020 was fun--& undeniably an asterisk year filled with cupcakes. It has padded
Forzaitalia
Jun 1, 11:41pm
Because he loses a fair number of games that should be wins.
Squirt
Jun 1, 1:58pm
And wins a fair number that should be losses
arcawley
Jun 1, 5:35pm
Has anyone added up should-have-been-losses and should-have-been-wins?
Ripliancum
Jun 1, 8:32pm
Only 2 out of 8?
deliciousmocha
Jun 1, 1:58pm
This has GOTTA be a reverse. Cause Kalani is a horrible coach.
TeeKaa
Jun 1, 1:58pm
RE: This has GOTTA be a reverse. Cause Kalani is horrible.
OldFogey
Jun 1, 7:53pm
RE: Why all the Kalani Hate?
Tio
Jun 1, 1:58pm
I think some of it has to do with the inaction or slow action toward issues
Zip
Jun 1, 2:00pm
He put his buddy ahead of the program
TNT
Jun 1, 2:02pm
He seems slow to realize somebody isn't getting the job done
Zip
Jun 1, 2:06pm
That indicates incompetence
TNT
Jun 1, 2:16pm
No, he just gives people a more than fair amount of time to make appropriate
kC Cougar
Jun 1, 2:45pm
First sign of adversity? Fans would have been happy if Tuiaki was let go a
bluesloth
Jun 1, 2:52pm
Tuiaki NEVER should have been hired in ANY capacity. But as DC - lol lol lol lol
TeeKaa
Jun 1, 3:09pm
If Detmer was going to be canned, Tuiaki should have been.
DeepCCoug
Jun 2, 12:52am
Seems to me he learned from Lavelle and runs the program like Lavelle did.
So it goes...
Jun 1, 2:57pm
Except LaVell knew about football, and hired those who knew football. KS, LOL
TeeKaa
Jun 1, 3:11pm
Correct. Unfortunately Kalani is no where near like LaVell & it
gopman
Jun 1, 3:25pm
Lavelle knew a lot less about football than Kalani. And his record against
Threw and Through
Jun 1, 7:10pm
What? This has to be TIC. LaVell revolutionized the game with
gopman
Jun 1, 7:45pm
No, not TIC. LaVell knew very little about the passing game. BYU became great
Threw and Through
Jun 1, 9:34pm
LaVel's zenith streak in the middle to late 70's and early eighties carried him
Zip
Jun 1, 9:52pm
True. But by the time he got to his last three years, BYU was unsuccessful and
Threw and Through
Jun 1, 9:57pm
Yep. Not many people remember or acknowledge that
Zip
Jun 1, 10:18pm
I remember. Got tired of hearing, "I don't know why we came out flat, we had a
BYURider
Jun 2, 3:22am
Uh, 1996? Also 1994 (10 win season). The 90's weren't too
gopman
Jun 2, 7:43am
False. LaVell was very knowledgeable about the West Coast Offense
gopman
Jun 2, 7:33am
But you are correct that I spelled his name wrong. That's embarrassing. That's
Threw and Through
Jun 1, 9:40pm
Or....or, just hear me out.....Kalani values relationships over results &
gopman
Jun 1, 3:37pm
Do you really think the head coach doesn’t care about winning?
myfriendryan
Jun 1, 3:49pm
Bromance.
gopman
Jun 1, 3:58pm
Right, that’s why Detmer got two years and Tuiaki got seven
ZeldaCoug
Jun 1, 7:51pm
Tuiaki had good and even excellent success in multiple years. Detmer didn't.
Threw and Through
Jun 1, 9:53pm
In year 8? I've heard of "glacial pace" but good grief....
gopman
Jun 1, 3:35pm
Think of the Bromance TNT.......it was special.....it was....
gopman
Jun 1, 3:34pm
Did KS actually have the money to hire Jay Hill before last season?
TempeCoug
Jun 1, 8:35pm
That's a valid point and one I've considered
Zip
Jun 1, 9:09pm
Did you say the same thing about Bronco?
TheLoneCougar
Jun 1, 9:10pm
the defense wasn’t good but it wasn’t bad until 2022. fans are ALWAYS ahead of coaches when it comes to complaining.
FieroCoug
Jun 1, 2:03pm
Nah - Kalani was complaining plenty about Ty early on and was fine with throwing
foofcoug
Jun 1, 2:08pm
yeah that’s cause the offense was actually awful. the defense was good for G5 bad for P5. it was just boring.
FieroCoug
Jun 1, 2:31pm
I guess fans aren't ALWAYS ahead of coaches when it comes to complaining then.
foofcoug
Jun 1, 2:34pm
or fans were covering up for arguably the worst OC in FBS who had only coached high school. all cause he won a heisman.
FieroCoug
Jun 1, 7:40pm
Ty was over one of the absolute worst offenses in all of FBS despite having
Rise Against
Jun 1, 4:15pm
It's because he's Polynesian. Bronco had some of the same issues with coaches, but you don't hear people say he was
TheLoneCougar
Jun 1, 9:13pm
Nope. Didn't happen. It's a false accusation against a guy who's never
Threw and Through
Jun 1, 10:04pm
Exactly correct. I remember thinking at the time how disloyal Sitake was.
DeepCCoug
Jun 2, 1:08am
It was terrible it had too decent
CarolinaCoug
Jun 1, 2:34pm
No hate, just this:
HuskerFan2
Jun 1, 2:06pm
Not trending well if we keep up more of the same. Need improvements all around
jpal1397
Jun 1, 2:18pm
So 29-9 before a P5 transition year where they were close to a bowl game? Solid
arcawley
Jun 1, 5:37pm
He asked a question, that is one answer.
HuskerFan2
Jun 1, 6:48pm
Yeah, ignore the fact that that 2020 schedule is a fake stat. Schedule
CarolinaCoug
Jun 1, 8:57pm
So 2021 gets thrown out too?
HuskerFan2
Jun 1, 10:01pm
One of those things is not like the others
CarolinaCoug
Jun 1, 8:56pm
Tuiaki. Any more questions?
CarolinaCoug
Jun 1, 2:08pm
Too low IQ to realize that dopey, passive defense wasn't a draw for top recruits
vegas guey
Jun 1, 7:12pm
COVID year was easier than an 80s WAC schedule.
Iman23
Jun 1, 2:10pm
Because our late taste of football is 5 losses in a row. 6 month aftertaste.
ochobeeguy
Jun 1, 2:22pm
With blowouts suffered from teams with comparable talent to BYU
TNT
Jun 1, 2:22pm
No hate. He’s a cool guy. The team is just sloppy in nearly every way. Getting
TarCoug
Jun 1, 2:29pm
Good summary
TNT
Jun 1, 2:31pm
I want to see him succeed. He's just the sort of guy who deserves it.
DubuMfalme
Jun 1, 2:40pm
For the last time, no one hates Kalani the person. But plenty hate losing.
ldssdl
Jun 1, 2:35pm
Last season was pretty sad
Heath Squashwell
Jun 1, 2:40pm
I gotcha
RealTaysomHill
Jun 1, 2:55pm
Fair. I’m gonna watch some film and fix my attitude.
Idacoug
Jun 1, 2:56pm
Kalani made BYU football irrelevant. None of us have any personal ill
gopman
Jun 1, 3:07pm
I think there are some on this board that have personal ill will towards him.
BYURider
Jun 1, 3:11pm
Some are conflating criticism of his coaching performance
gopman
Jun 1, 3:23pm
It had already been irrelevant for 7-8 years before Kalani…and were 29-9 before
arcawley
Jun 1, 5:38pm
Not so. We made some noise in 2015 with our win at Nebraska.
gopman
Jun 1, 6:27pm
One week's noise didn't make us better or more relevant
Threw and Through
Jun 1, 11:23pm
No one cares about 8-5 or 9-4 unranked seasons…
arcawley
Jun 2, 12:55am
Consistently earning 8-9 win seasons along with the occasional 10 win
gopman
Jun 2, 8:02am
Not that smart & fairly lazy. Bad combo for a head coach at a major university.
byubyu
Jun 1, 3:17pm
Would you say that to his face?
myfriendryan
Jun 1, 3:47pm
Yes. I would tell him it was stupid and lazy to not have the right cleats for a
byubyu
Jun 1, 4:00pm
Amazing you can determine all this from watching a 3 hr game in TV once a week.
BYURider
Jun 1, 4:15pm
I don't have to be a firefighter to know the house is on fire. Same
gopman
Jun 1, 4:33pm
So you know how many hrs a week Kalani and the other lazy coaches put in a week?
BYURider
Jun 1, 5:07pm
At those salaries, you don’t get paid for hours worked, you get paid for results
ldssdl
Jun 1, 5:48pm
Also 3 or 4 plays from going 3-9. It's objective accountability not hate. That
Forzaitalia
Jun 1, 3:25pm
It's more Kalani not-love than Kalani hate.
Ripliancum
Jun 1, 3:27pm
We just had a long thread on this very subject. You could read it.
CougarMandias
Jun 1, 3:47pm
Because people like you keep starting conversations like this one.
here's to hoping
Jun 1, 5:36pm
Because he isn’t a good coach.
Grock
Jun 1, 5:45pm
I don't think anyone "hates" KS. It's just that a lot of us recognize his
TrueBlue67
Jun 1, 6:22pm
Many fans are completely fine with mediocrity. I’m not and…
LateToTheGame
Jun 1, 6:31pm
Some people can’t differentiate criticism from hate. If you are critical of
cougaman
Jun 1, 6:40pm
Makes me wonder if the low bar group ever had to be responsible for managing
Forzaitalia
Jun 1, 6:51pm
Criticism: Kalani could improve the team management of timeout usage. Hate:
MaxxPower
Jun 1, 9:19pm
There are more criticisms than just that, and he’s been HC for 8 years. I think
cougaman
Jun 2, 7:55am
Not hating, but I have my doubts he's got what it takes to make BYU a program
Countcougula
Jun 1, 8:02pm
Don’t hate him at all. I want him to win. In the XII. Hopefully it happens
Ray Shoesmith
Jun 1, 8:44pm
It’s not hate at all. It’s just being real and accepting the fact that we don’t have a football coach that moves the
Blue2thebone
Jun 1, 9:01pm
It’s been nearly impossible to have losing seasons with our schedule so that benchmark doesn’t work
Blue2thebone
Jun 2, 12:43am
re “Not many coaches that were hired the same year he was are still around.”
Blue2thebone
Jun 2, 12:45am
Cause we got a sector of whinny, unrealistic fans in our fanbase.
nitestal
Jun 2, 9:00am
I think we have fans that don't know football on our board Us winners as you cal
CarolinaCoug
Jun 2, 11:47am
Tuiaki took a year off and now is DL coach at Oregon State, FYI.
BYURider
Jun 2, 1:01pm
Because fans saw the issues on defense for years yet he hung onto the coaches.
IceCreamButt
Jun 2, 11:17am
Good, Better, Best- he is a “good” coach, not the Best but good has always been
wildwilderness
Jun 2, 1:47pm
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