Why is this such a perplexing problem? It doesn't stop any other major college

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Jan 1, 2025
8:22:06pm

shoganai All-American

sport from holding an inclusive and expanded playoff.

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shoganai

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24 teams. Every conference champ gets in. First three rounds at home sites. Rose

shoganai

Jan 1, 6:55pm

This would be way more fun.

LeperKhan

Jan 1, 6:56pm

Not all champs deserve a bid. Marshall couldn't even field a team. This CFP has shown that more teams isn’t the answer

byuTX

Jan 1, 7:02pm

We've had enough of committees and computers deciding who "deserves" to be in.

shoganai

Jan 1, 7:13pm

If you win a conference that has good teams then you deserve to be in. Most years one or no G6

byuTX

Jan 1, 7:27pm

Here's an idea. Let's have the lowly G5 champions play some games against the

shoganai

Jan 1, 7:30pm

It’s so different that it’s not even comparable. Let highly ranked teams play. Give an autobid to one G6 to avoid legal

byuTX

Jan 1, 7:32pm

The argument that FBS college football is so uniquely "different" and beyond

shoganai

Jan 1, 7:39pm

Within FBS is where the difference is. Most of the CFP games haven’t been competitive and you think adding

byuTX

Jan 1, 7:41pm

Yet somehow FCS has been doing it for years...

shoganai

Jan 1, 7:42pm

All those g6 should drop to FCs and compete with them. Much better fit

byuTX

Jan 1, 7:45pm

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you're in favor of divisional

shoganai

Jan 1, 7:48pm

Very possible. But what you don’t want is equality. You want to give everyone a trophy

byuTX

Jan 1, 7:51pm

Total nonsense. I want exactly one trophy.

shoganai

Jan 1, 7:52pm

You don’t want them to earn it you want it given to them without having to compete during the season

byuTX

Jan 1, 8:13pm

That is not even close to an accurate summary of my argument. Completely unfair

shoganai

Jan 1, 8:15pm

How would you rearrange the conferences to make them somewhat equal? How would you convince blue bloods and networks?

byuTX

Jan 1, 8:33pm

You don't need equal conferences. You don't have those in any other sport and

shoganai

Jan 1, 8:43pm

There is no pro league with gaps between the top and bottom conferences like you

russkiejedi

Jan 1, 9:09pm

Literally every college sport has gaps of that size, if not bigger, including

shoganai

Jan 1, 9:13pm

Not close. And it’s going to be an even wider gap when top teams start sharing 20 million a year with players. Kennesaw

byuTX

Jan 1, 10:24pm

I think that assertion simply doesn't stand up to any objective analysis

shoganai

Jan 1, 10:55pm

Of course it does - the gap between a top and bottom football team is much

russkiejedi

Jan 2, 6:39am

I just completely disagree. I don't think there's any way you can look at the

shoganai

Jan 2, 7:36am

NIU has been an FBS team for over 40 years, they're not the comparison between a

russkiejedi

Jan 2, 9:43am

So, it turns out you actually agree with me on the gap issue.

shoganai

Jan 2, 10:09am

Nah, not unless you're making an argument about it that I didn't catch above.

russkiejedi

Jan 2, 10:46am

16 seeds in basketball have a 2-154 all-time record. I don't think you can make

shoganai

Jan 2, 10:56am

You keep comparing apples to oranges. A 9/24 play-in round wouldn't be

russkiejedi

Jan 2, 2:46pm

I can and do because it is. But what you want can't, won't and shouldn't happen

byuTX

Jan 2, 9:44am

Not even close.

russkiejedi

Jan 1, 10:36pm

Yeah, the current format gives the G5 a shot. A G5 team got the 3 seed and a bye

russkiejedi

Jan 1, 8:06pm

The problem is we currently have very unbalanced conferences and this will not

mudpupper

Jan 1, 8:13pm

Why is this such a perplexing problem? It doesn't stop any other major college

shoganai

Jan 1, 8:22pm

Have alwaya thought this would be the beat format. Aligns with the traditional

BYU2ATM

Jan 1, 7:05pm

Until a team actually ranked outside the top 10 wins a game…

OPINIONS

Jan 1, 7:22pm

There's no "need" to have any teams. College football did just fine when it had

shoganai

Jan 1, 7:27pm

It has never been more popular than ever and I thought you wanted to prove it on the field?

byuTX

Jan 1, 7:31pm

10 conferences, 30 divisions

1984coug

Jan 1, 7:56pm

Agree, plus autobids for Alabama and other blue bloods.

RoboKayne

Jan 1, 8:06pm

One game has been decided by a single score. Average margin of victory is 17 points. And your solution is to let Ohio,

RealTaysomHill

Jan 2, 10:18am

It depends on what problem you think needs solving.

shoganai

Jan 2, 10:26am

Who doesn’t have access to the playoffs?

RealTaysomHill

Jan 2, 10:42am

Approximately half of each season's conference champions and several other

shoganai

Jan 2, 1:32pm

They do have access though. BYU could have gone to the playoffs this year. So could any G5 conference champion.

RealTaysomHill

Jan 2, 3:22pm

You and I have different opinions on what that means.

shoganai

Jan 2, 3:35pm

If BYU went undefeated, would we have gone to the playoffs?

RealTaysomHill

Jan 2, 3:41pm

I understand your argument. I just don't have quite the same view on it.

shoganai

Jan 2, 6:54pm

Why are people so concerned about lopsided games?

BYU2ATM

Jan 2, 1:09pm

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