Kalani unfortunately values relationships over results. He's horrified of

Dec 3, 2024
4:11:17pm

gopman All-American

offending others by RUTS.

LaVell had no issues with RUTS. In 1992 Sports Illustrated called BYU "the most hated team in America". Now under Kalani its all about love.

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CB is hilarious sometimes. BYU has looked terrible the last 4 games and no one

OKchief

Dec 3, 11:24am

We haven't looked "terrible", but I agree with everything else you said

darkcoug

Dec 3, 11:26am

But did we look like a playoff team? Like a first-round bye, playoff team?

NewYorkCougar

Dec 3, 11:29am

I agree with that. Part of it was that our schedule was a lot tougher and many of the bounces that went for us

darkcoug

Dec 3, 11:31am

Schedule tougher in the second half of the season? Are you kidding?

CameronG

Dec 3, 11:44am

Yes, I think @Utah with everything on the line, Kansas during their 3 ranked team massacre, and end-of-season @ASU

darkcoug

Dec 3, 11:48am

Mmmm, yes... 3-6 Kansas at home was very tough. Utah and Ok State were tough

reddead

Dec 3, 12:25pm

Utah was very much not at home

BaseCoug

Dec 3, 3:33pm

Good point. I upgrade that to an ugly win over a bad team in a tough environment

reddead

11:48am

I think yes - what 12 teams are better?

HarlemCoug

Dec 3, 11:53am

All of the undefeated and 1-loss P4 teams (yes, SMU is better right now). Boise

reddead

Dec 3, 12:29pm

Your first couple of criteria result in 11 teams, leaves 1 spot left

BYUFootballisBack

Dec 3, 3:32pm

I would bet against BYU, but I agree with you about very little resume diff

reddead

Dec 3, 3:41pm

Multiple of the projected playoff teams have not looked like "playoff" teams

BYUFootballisBack

Dec 3, 3:27pm

Right. BYU is not a top 12 team, but neither are at least half of the top 12.

CougarMandias

9:17am

i would say BYU looked like as much of a first round bye type of team as anyone

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 3:39pm

Better than BSU

coot20

Dec 3, 5:57pm

Yeah terrible is a strong word. But they haven't looked good

OKchief

Dec 3, 11:30am

Uhhh... From the 2nd half of UCF, all of Utah, all of Kansas, and the first half of ASU. We looked really bad.

Boomcannon

Dec 3, 12:37pm

BYU hasn’t looked terrible. BYU had two close losses against solid teams, and

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 11:29am

This. We all look through our BYU lens, but other teams are also flawed.

Allstate

Dec 3, 11:30am

Terrible is the wrong word…they’ve looked mediocre

PHXSUNS31

Dec 3, 11:32am

idk if you noticed but there were a lot of worse losses than ours above us.

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 11:50am

I said right in my post that we didn’t play terrible. We played mediocre

PHXSUNS31

Dec 3, 12:58pm

the problem isn’t that BYUs was back to back to end the year and bama vs vandy

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 3:14pm

Corrupt? I don’t get that. Of course every game shouldn’t be the same

PHXSUNS31

Dec 3, 4:16pm

than what’s the point of playing any games before november?

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 6:34pm

College football is unique…lots of teams and you can’t play a balanced schedule

PHXSUNS31

9:49am

I agree with your last part. But the current system is extremely corrupt

FieroCoug

10:19am

We looked blah since second half against UCF, just trying to burn clock instead

88Coug

Dec 3, 11:59am

If there’s one thing that will be debated every day on CB

Cooouuugs

Dec 3, 6:02pm

We definitely did not “control the game” against Houston

RealTaysomHill

Dec 3, 11:38am

almost all of their losses were by one score and they beat 3 of the top 4 big 12

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 11:50am

They could be the best 5-7 team of all time. That doesn’t make them good

RealTaysomHill

Dec 3, 11:54am

i didn’t say they’re good. just that they’re solid. ASU is good and that was a

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 12:42pm

Man, Taysom is a little snarky after his injury Sunday.

Captain Stubing

Dec 3, 11:55am

not top 25

Deleted

Dec 3, 11:43am

RE: BYU hasn’t looked terrible. BYU had two close losses against solid

cougsince'84

Dec 3, 5:02pm

Collapse and looking terrible are not terms that apply this year. Try BYU 6 v Texas 35, BYU 7 v WVU 37, BYU 13 v ISU 45

PJMort

Dec 3, 11:30am

So you've been happy with the effort, focus and preparation? Sure the scores are

OKchief

Dec 3, 11:39am

So, the choices are collapse/looks terrible OR being happy?

PJMort

Dec 3, 11:46am

This is a fair analysis if you only look at BYU

Remigius

Dec 3, 11:41am

Which playoff teams should BYU be ahead of?

RealTaysomHill

Dec 3, 11:43am

Miami, for one. Alabama looke far worse than we ever did in their 24-3 loss to

Threw and Through

Dec 3, 12:34pm

Did you answer the question though? I agree on Miami…

PHXSUNS31

Dec 3, 1:06pm

BYU has not looked like a top 25 team the past 4 games

Projectoor

Dec 3, 11:42am

BYU shouldn't be evaluated in a vacuum. What about Bama getting blown out to OU?

Mr. Scoobs

Dec 3, 11:52am

They do have some things going for them, but some going against them

Projectoor

Dec 3, 12:22pm

Boise is an auto-bid. They are irrelevant to the discussion unless they lose

PHXSUNS31

Dec 3, 1:16pm

BYU has holes but not as big of a gap as they should. Being in the lower teens

Mr. Scoobs

Dec 3, 1:39pm

BYU was #6 (and climbing) until they lost to non-bowl eligible Kansas

reddead

Dec 3, 3:00pm

Kansas also knocked off Iowa St and Colorado during that stretch. It's not

Mr. Scoobs

Dec 3, 3:18pm

Kansas then dropped a game to Baylor to finish 5-7. They are not a good P4 team

reddead

Dec 3, 3:26pm

It's not as gigantic as you are making it out to be. Other teams have had flaws

Mr. Scoobs

Dec 3, 3:48pm

You’re taking single events and not looking at the whole picture for those teams

PHXSUNS31

Dec 3, 4:15pm

I'm doing that intentionally because that is how BYU is being evaluated

Mr. Scoobs

Dec 3, 4:28pm

Best wins in all of college football is a little hyperbolic

reddead

Dec 3, 4:44pm

How are you evaluating quality of wins? A&M isn't even ranked anymore.

Mr. Scoobs

Dec 3, 4:53pm

That was a rivalry game to go to the SEC championship in a top 20 environment

reddead

Dec 3, 5:03pm

I guess for me I’m just not concerned about a spot or 2 for BYU

PHXSUNS31

9:54am

I agree that it's close. I don't like defending 9-3 Bama or S Car or 10-2 Miami

reddead

Dec 3, 4:20pm

every single top 25 team, including number 1 undefeated oregon, has not

FieroCoug

Dec 3, 2:07pm

Yes we can fault the committee!

RoboKayne

Dec 3, 3:25pm

Ok Chief

HarlemCoug

Dec 3, 11:51am

RE: CB is hilarious sometimes. BYU has looked terrible the last 4 games and no

Longseason

Dec 3, 12:21pm

BYU would likely get hammered in a playoff game IF they play the way the have

Blew

Dec 3, 12:44pm

We finished tied for 1st and what appears to be about 3rd place overall, which is about right.

kccougar

Dec 3, 12:54pm

So you've been happy with the preparation, effort and execution?

OKchief

Dec 3, 1:07pm

Happy? Absolutely. We finished 10-2. Hopeful for continued improvement? That too.

kccougar

Dec 3, 3:52pm

Weak wins are the bigger problem. We had one "bad" loss.

LateToTheGame

Dec 3, 1:17pm

I can be concerned about both BYU's on-field struggles and the inherent corrupt-

Still Blue

Dec 3, 1:18pm

There are teams that will make the playoffs this year that have just as many

westsidecoug

Dec 3, 1:35pm

A lot of very flawed teams. We should have beaten Kansas (even if they were on

SoBlueitHurts

Dec 3, 1:42pm

BYU was #6 (ahead of Georgia) when they played Kansas—getting lots of love

reddead

Dec 3, 3:02pm

Undefeated is the only way the Big 12 will get love it seems. And that is hard

westsidecoug

Dec 3, 5:55pm

Not so. An 11-2 Big XII team is going to the playoff, 11-1 will always get love

reddead

8:45am

Who besides Notre Dame has a worse loss?

PHXSUNS31

11:17am

Both things can be true...

djbryant79

Dec 3, 1:57pm

Winning solves a lot of problems.

KCFan85

Dec 3, 2:09pm

The problem is the penalty exacted against BYU and Big 12 teams for losing, which is not exacted to the same extent

Bob Vance

Dec 3, 2:10pm

We haven't played like we deserve it but if we still used the BCS computer

Lord Jim

Dec 3, 2:17pm

Very strong resume, but definitely failed the eye test

Hill4Heisman

Dec 3, 2:18pm

Yup. What a lot of people refuse to accept (most of all Kalani)

OKchief

Dec 3, 4:02pm

Kalani unfortunately values relationships over results. He's horrified of

gopman

Dec 3, 4:11pm

The playoff was ours and it was stolen from us.

VenomFarmer

Dec 3, 2:46pm

Sure, but with the huge caveat that most of the teams above us also look weak

CougarMandias

Dec 3, 2:58pm

Thing is that if Utah was 9-0 with the same schedule and same kind of wins then

boctabulous

Dec 3, 3:25pm

But at the same time you’d probably say Alabama is great. See this thread

ColonelMustard

Dec 3, 4:37pm

His point still stands that BYU (offensively) didn't pass the "eye test".

gopman

Dec 3, 4:44pm

Alabama just lost to Oklahoma and only score 3 points.

MarylandFan

Dec 3, 5:53pm

How did Bama look scoring only 3 points and losing to Oklahoma 2 weeks ago?

Doogal McCougar

Dec 3, 6:21pm

lol. You obviously haven’t watched much college football this year. Have you

cDog801

Dec 3, 6:22pm

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