but that's just a sunk cost fallacy, and I doubt large companies like meta are

Sep 19, 2024
5:53:03pm

Jay Rick All-American

being that illogical.

it's about their financial interests. these are companies working with billions of dollars. they're running the numbers and figuring out how to maximize profits. it's not just that Zuk gets sad seeing an empty building.

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Time

Working from home has been one of my biggest blessings of my life

SLC-Durham

11:09am

I work in the office but I have the flexibility to never miss any of my kids

BYUheaven

11:13am

Yep I work in office 100%. My office is 4 minutes from home and 2 minutes from

cougarfann888

11:18am

Most jobs should have a way of measuring output.

Madam Pattirini

11:14am

It really depends on the job. I believe most jobs benefit from being in office

cougarfann888

11:15am

I'm guessing you've never worked for the government.

greatbam

3:39pm

I worked for the government for a long time as a prosecutor and everything

cougarfann888

3:45pm

I guess I could understand that for your field but being in IT sadly can't say that I've really learned that much from..

greatbam

4:02pm

What's this on "obvious incentives to keep workers in a space other than homes"?

All-American

11:16am

like energy companies, cities economies based around huge workforce.

SLC-Durham

11:18am

Commercial real estate needs companies to rent their buildings, WFH cuts profits

BYUFootballisBack

11:18am

Ok but why would individual companies care about that? If they could save money

cougarfann888

11:21am

They dont he said the push back is coming from the commercial real estate people

BYUFootballisBack

11:23am

Exactly. One firm's profits are another's expenses.

All-American

11:23am

Because individual companies are still paying for the offices they are leasing.

ochobeeguy

11:27am

paying for the building, heating, cooling, water, etc

LeonMarek

11:28am

And will do so whether the employee shows up or not. So why does it matter?

All-American

11:35am

And these are massive companies with all of the data in the world to calculate t

Jay Rick

5:49pm

Many companies have spent and extraordinary amount of money on prime real estate

VACOUGFAN

11:20am

but that's just a sunk cost fallacy, and I doubt large companies like meta are

Jay Rick

5:53pm

Maybe not Zuk but there are plenty of middle managers sad to see empty offices.

VACOUGFAN

6:50pm

So you were inefficient in the office and you are no less efficient at home. Congrats. Nobody here is going to tell you

supertux

11:18am

I have worked in an office for 10 years and have multiple degrees.

SLC-Durham

12:02pm

umad bro?

Cougarclaw

12:24pm

He did post the ultimate whine thread.

Sid Vicious

2:15pm

Same for me. Way more productive and I'm able to help out my wife a lot more.

royal_blue

11:18am

CPA firm...works ok for line folks kicking out returns. It is really bad for

Fdnman

11:21am

Same situation, and I love it! But I do struggle with efficiency.

Tiburon

11:21am

yeah, but it has got to cause more stress on your parents.

Longseason

11:23am

You're commuting 9-10 hours per day?

2FarGone

11:23am

Weird they keep giving me promotions.

SLC-Durham

11:51am

And either Trump or Kamala is going to be president of the USA. Doesn't mean

BYUMizzou

12:47pm

I give people promotions all the time that I end up firing.

2FarGone

1:03pm

weird flex but ok. Maybe get better

SLC-Durham

1:06pm

not a flex at all

2FarGone

1:10pm

Amen. Same. Except for the diaper changing part as my kids are past that.

RockyBalboa

11:23am

I like working at home. I like working in the office. I HAAATE commuting

Clark Addison

11:24am

Working in the office is more fun if it's not busy.

Belboz

11:34am

This is correct

WDaddy

12:22pm

Yep, the big problem for me is the commute. 2 to 3 hours wasted each day.

Breaded Hamster

4:20pm

Working just 4 days a week, soon to be 3 days and 1 day for only virtual visits

Zoobieman

11:32am

Hard to be a work from home dentist. Guess I'll be that "disappear all day, eat dinner, and say goodnight" dad.

byujacob

11:40am

Bro, just use video chat

OldFogey

11:49am

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byujacob

12:10pm

Yeah but dentists also only work like 3 days a week so it balances out.

Mike Honcho

12:33pm

Maybe one day. I know you're not a surgeon but who knows maybe one day remote dentistry?

greatbam

3:48pm

Happy for you! All depends on the type of work you have and who you work for.

CougaRR4L

11:41am

9-10 hrs daily commute? I guess boardname really checks out.

ordinary tri guy

11:54am

My son has stomach flu today. I’m grateful to leave and be at work for that.

Magneto

11:54am

I'm interested in the math that you need DOUBLE to work from an office. I

ChinaFan

11:57am

Hes saying he values his current situation and it would take double to leave it

BYUFootballisBack

11:59am

but he inferred that he couldn't afford to do anything else, which probably is a

ChinaFan

12:06pm

Did not infer that.

SLC-Durham

12:10pm

Ill take hybrid. Everyday in the office sucks. Everyday at home also sucks

machete

11:59am

I WFH for 8 years but also with travel. It was a huge blessing.

gangbusters

12:01pm

The biggest issue with WFH

kapcreations

12:13pm

That’s great but you are making a great case for how WFH is less productive for

garyfan

12:15pm

Research has shown office workers work 2 hours and 23 min a day.

SLC-Durham

12:32pm

Cool. If that stat is your benchmark, then change all the diapers you want.

garyfan

1:01pm

What research if I may ask?

DJROSS

1:28pm

Research on companies that are going to lay off people who only work a few hours

Ojiisan

5:50pm

AMEN! Remove commute, lunches, etc. I'm WFH 12+ yrs & way more productive

Bar_None

12:19pm

I couldn't do WFH, period. I need the separation. And I love my family dearly.

Adwight

12:23pm

Sounds like your work isn’t getting 100% of you if you’re driving to school and

pink22

12:32pm

Google how many hrs the average office worker actually works.

SLC-Durham

12:36pm

It’s just crazy to me that you’re so brazenly admitting to not working during

Forest Green

12:46pm

I never said I work 2-3 hours a day. So hold your outrage.

SLC-Durham

1:00pm

It sure sounds like you’re happily comparing yourself to these 2-3 hr guys.

Forest Green

1:18pm

I am happy to compare myself to them because I work a lot more.

SLC-Durham

2:05pm

RE: It’s just crazy to me that you’re so brazenly admitting to not working

SausageKing

4:55pm

I’m not saying office people don’t waste time. But if I work down the hall and

pink22

12:49pm

Basically your argument is that you're justified in stealing time from your

BYUMizzou

12:49pm

I do not get paid by the hour. I am not stealing anything.

SLC-Durham

12:54pm

RE: I do not get paid by the hour. I am not stealing anything.

garyfan

1:07pm

I'm not sure what you are saying here

Northwest Cougar

1:00pm

No I have skills and experience that people value.

SLC-Durham

1:03pm

I think you need to do more work before considering yourself an expert on WFH

garyfan

1:09pm

says the guy with 40k CB posts. Get to work lazy bones.

SLC-Durham

1:12pm

RE: says the guy with 40k CB posts. Get to work lazy bones.

garyfan

1:16pm

Maybe if you in office guys weren't on CB all day you'd get something done

SLC-Durham

1:18pm

You make lots of unfounded assumptions when your ideas are challenged.

garyfan

1:26pm

Yeah I assumed you made all your posts is that wrong?

SLC-Durham

1:46pm

I’m starting to wonder if some employers allow WFH because they don’t want

garyfan

2:21pm

Pretty sure most of us here could change a diaper and play with kids.

JohnnyComeLately

1:21pm

It sounds like you could do the job of two people, and then your employer could

Jay Rick

5:27pm

My job just started requiring us to come into the office every other week…

provoprodigy

1:05pm

sounds like you don't do much "work" either at home or in office

bald man

1:28pm

People with hair get more done in shorter periods of time.

SLC-Durham

1:57pm

I just left a company I was at for 14 months.

whirl

1:33pm

That's a separate discussion than the OP though. That company you worked for

BYUMizzou

2:02pm

I agree with a lot of your post but for the sake of discussion — Dad’s being overly saturated in children’s lives is

Zach Morris

1:33pm

Amen and amen. I’ll never go back to full time in office. Need that flexibility

Lefty24

2:23pm

Wonder how many wives and possibly kids are like “Dad is around way too much”

pink22

4:00pm

lol full transparency sometimes too many cooks in the kitchen can be

Lefty24

6:20pm

Why not just work from India?

Pasadena

2:52pm

You sound like a guy who was recently a co-worker of mine. We'd been on a small team working remote for the past..

greatbam

4:09pm

That sounds great for you, but why should your employer pay you to "take your

Jay Rick

5:30pm

They choose to because i do my job. Strange concept.

SLC-Durham

5:37pm

You don't take 45 seconds to change a diaper. Your own post strongly suggests

Jay Rick

5:45pm

I know you’re just personally attacking me right now but I do have a question.

SLC-Durham

5:58pm

He didn’t personally attack you, yet you’ve been rude to several people in this

garyfan

6:04pm

I don’t care if people personally attack me. I wanted him to answer the question

SLC-Durham

6:21pm

RE: I don’t care if people personally attack me. I wanted him to answer

garyfan

6:30pm

This you after you spend time with your kids?

SLC-Durham

6:47pm

RE: This you after you spend time with your kids?

garyfan

7:08pm

Oh yeah if my kids looked like that I’d be at work all day too.

SLC-Durham

7:32pm

I answered it. Below. And my only reference to diapers was in a list of things

Jay Rick

6:55pm

I have no idea if the average office worker puts in 3-4 hours of work per day.

Jay Rick

6:07pm

I think he’s grasping at that as a way to make his point. I don’t think workers

pink22

6:14pm

It’s called google

SLC-Durham

6:18pm

You're ridiculous if you think that employers actually expect every single minute worked to be productively used..

greatbam

6:47pm

I am an employer, and I agree. But I don't expect employees to waste several

Jay Rick

6:52pm

Lololol someone's a little sensitive

machete

6:23pm

My neighbor did WFH for a RO (results only) company out of Lehi and

Lefty24

6:23pm

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