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The 3 special teams rated higher than BYU’s by SP+

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

4:05pm

did they really have better stats or just bias?

Pobs

4:11pm

World Juniors (for those new to hockey)

Little Mac

3:58pm

Canadian team was terrible this year. They got upset by Latvia for the first time ever.

JohnnyComeLately

4:12pm

BYU 17th in the latest SP+ ratings

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

3:57pm

All these metrics, ratings, and rankings.. and it still all comes down to 13 people picking their favorite teams.

AltTabbins

4:01pm

Iowa state 35, Kansas St 19. Glad that predictive metric worked in our favor

HRCougar

4:03pm

RE: BYU 17th in the latest SP+ ratings

Gustav

4:08pm

Fair.

shoganai

4:09pm

Men's VB starts tonight!!

maweien

3:56pm

In an hour to be exact. tOSU is a great team to be playing in game 1.

Soupie

4:00pm

Wish I could be there live.

reagan21

4:09pm

Jake's 2.5 interceptions vs CU: He obviously shoulda bailed on the shuffle pass.

SinkingQuffa

3:49pm

RE: Jake's 2.5 interceptions vs CU: He obviously shoulda bailed on the shuffle

Jeffacka

3:50pm

RE: Jake's 2.5 interceptions vs CU: He obviously shoulda bailed on the shuffle

NWCoug

3:57pm

A spade is a spade, indeed. We blew out CU in all facets. Nobody questions that.

SinkingQuffa

3:58pm

Nice. 😉

SinkingQuffa

4:10pm

Play call on the 2 pt play bothered me more than Jake's decision.

rad dawg

3:56pm

I don't really think there is much of a decision to be made.

JuicyJam

4:08pm

*shovel pass

CopperLix

4:08pm

Blog: Houston Coach Kelvin Sampson Shares Thoughts On BYU Basketball View

[KSL Sports]

3:48pm

Medal of Honors are being awarded live currently.

IGlowInTheDark

3:46pm

Amazing stories of heroism. The real supermen of the world

pegushin

3:50pm

Modern day legends

PickleButton

3:59pm

I like pointing out BYU players in the NFL who casual fans don’t know such as

LSUcougar92

3:43pm

RE: I like pointing out BYU players in the NFL who casual fans don’t know such as

jvr7

3:48pm

RE: If McMahon hadn't been crippled, he'd be in the HOF

foofcoug

3:42pm

So much sadness and anger

Indy Coug

3:43pm

Probably. Crazy they didn't even throw a penalty flag on that play. That guy would probably be kicked

kimdaddy35

3:44pm

I don't know about that. His stats were pretty pedestrian even before his

Jdoc

3:44pm

He played on a team in the 80s that was still stuck in the 50s offensively

Indy Coug

3:45pm

I know. I made that point. I think he would not have been a HOF playing with

Jdoc

3:47pm

He was 46-15 through his first 7 seasons in the NFL.

kimdaddy35

3:49pm

That is impressive, but the HOF looks at stats more than overall

Jdoc

3:50pm

Go take a look at Terry Bradshaw's stats

kimdaddy35

3:50pm

Interesting. He threw for 10,000 more yards than McMahon

Jdoc

3:55pm

Yeah if he had gone to a passing team running a version of the BYU/WC offense

ArcticKat

3:51pm

He sure looked like a HOFer when he played Utah.

Bluforever

4:05pm

Absolutely. He is a College football Hall of Famer. It was comical watching him

Jdoc

4:07pm

NiU to MWC, LOL

byubyu

3:31pm

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ByuCrusader

3:31pm

Link

Dark Forest Green

3:35pm

They beat BYU by a point in 2018 and now they think they can rule the world

Indy Coug

3:35pm

Laugh now, but who will the Pac-12 get as their 8th team? They'll need one.

Art Director

3:36pm

I hope they steal Utah. 🙂

HuskerFan2

3:38pm

MWC will need to get in line behind the B1G if they want UU to join. 😉

cougarmeister

3:40pm

Sac State

STL

3:42pm

They can't join in time, two year transition required

tacallaway

3:47pm

Doesn’t that rule only prohibit a transitioning school from participating

Everyman

3:59pm

Wait... will next years PAC schools have to be the ones to fulfill the PAC12 bowl game obligations?

Coug

3:53pm

no: the bowl deals lasted for just 2 years past the dissolution of the old pac

cwilke1

3:59pm

Why LOL?

RGGeemer

3:37pm

Geography maybe?

reddead

3:40pm

Certainly no worse than some other conference adds

RGGeemer

3:40pm

For sure. Cal/Stanford really stretch the meaning of "Atlantic"

reddead

3:56pm

a football only move, for a rather unappealing football member that is not a

cwilke1

4:02pm

Too bad it's not for all sports.

Doogal McCougar

3:41pm

They're not really milking that Notre Dame win

CougarCanuck76

3:45pm

Laugh all you want but they’ve might just beaten the national champ head to head in the year they won.

RdF3

3:45pm

They are the best Conference USA ever.

AltTabbins

3:58pm

POLL: Other than Steve Young, who is the best NFL player to come out of BYU?

Ja'Crispy

3:25pm

The amount of recency bias in these results is crazy.

LSUcougar92

3:28pm

Could be true, who else you got?

Ja'Crispy

3:29pm

Paul Howard was a fundamental piece to his team forever

LSUcougar92

3:34pm

Lee Johnson

Jdoc

3:48pm

Historically yes. Longest career with huge impact.

LSUcougar92

3:51pm

Taysom is a better player at several positions that others that only play that position. Hes the best "NFL Player".

AltTabbins

3:28pm

Did you not watch football in 1985?

LSUcougar92

3:30pm

Well I was 2 years old so tell me how it was

Ja'Crispy

3:34pm

fuzzy

Turd Ferguson

3:39pm

VGA

franklyvulgar

3:43pm

I watched Reading Rainbow and Sesame Street in 1983.

AltTabbins

3:51pm

Taysom Hill is not near the 2nd best pro to come out of BYU. Unique to our time period when everything

kimdaddy35

3:39pm

He's not a better TE than other BYU TEs, not a better QB than many BYU WBs, not

Plato

3:42pm

No, but he's a better TE than anyone else from BYU who wasn't a TE. He's a better RB than anyone else from BYU who isn't

AltTabbins

3:56pm

*Vai

foofcoug

3:29pm

He should respect his GA's!

kimdaddy35

3:41pm

Here's the top 10 by AV and where some other players of interest end up

krindorr

3:29pm

I don’t see Chad Lewis at all on that list

bubbastats

3:34pm

Added him, he just wasn't one of the ones I'd chosen to list first

krindorr

3:36pm

Well you took off my vote of 5 time pro-bowler and 2 time champion Bart Oates.

kimdaddy35

3:30pm

He didn't have any All Pros though

RealTaysomHill

3:33pm

You're right, Oates should be on there

Ja'Crispy

3:35pm

he'd have my vote

Cougarclaw

3:46pm

According to NFL.com, here is what they say...

Ja'Crispy

3:33pm

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DudeBro

3:40pm

The QB who won Chicago’s only Super Bowl? Seems like a no-brainer.

DodgerCoug

3:52pm

Is there anyone in this board who would like Dart to come to BYU? Nobody has said anything for 10 minutes about it.

TADOW Truly Addicted User

3:24pm

We could have had him if (hypothetical 1) or (hypothetical 2). Somehow we can't spell his name right either, like Gerry.

AltTabbins

3:26pm

*Ignoring reality, Dart's remaining eligibility, his projected draft status, current NIL package from a school

Indy Coug

3:27pm

Trivia of the Day: What did Jamaal Williams call Ty Detmer in 2016 when Ty was his OC?

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

3:23pm

TFD?

SingleStrapBackpack

3:25pm

Nope, he may have called him that once, but he consistently called him by this name

kimdaddy35

3:26pm

A middle aged vanilla man?

Reasonable1

3:26pm

RE: A middle aged vanilla man?

kimdaddy35

3:26pm

RE: Trivia of the Day: What did Jamaal Williams call Ty Detmer in 2016 when Ty

Dark Forest Green

3:31pm

Ding, ding, ding, ding ding! We have a winner. "Big Belly" or "Coach Big Belly"

kimdaddy35

3:33pm

RE: Trivia of the Day: What did Jamaal Williams call Ty Detmer in 2016 when Ty

kimdaddy35

3:33pm

POLL: End of week sanity check - Does Dawson Baker have a mustache?

Hup

3:20pm

And a mullet.

Parker Schnabel

3:31pm

What are your best Dutch oven recipes?

coug719

3:17pm

Roasted vegetables

Billie Ruben

3:52pm

lasagna

Samuel Hall Society

4:05pm

Enchiladas

Tesla Coug

4:09pm

Side or main dish

crimedog

4:12pm

I want Tie Detmer. Jake had lots of success last year but Tie is just so

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

3:17pm

Oh, you mean Jayke?

Carnac

3:20pm

RE: Oh, you mean Jayke?

kimdaddy35

3:21pm

POLL: Other than Steve Young, who is the best NFL player to come out of BYU?

Ja'Crispy

3:17pm

If McMahon hadn't been crippled, he'd be in the HOF

Indy Coug

3:18pm

Best "NFL Player" and you didn't include Taysom? Taysom's position is "NFL Player".

AltTabbins

3:19pm

Haha good point, can't believe I forgot him

Ja'Crispy

3:21pm

Ok, I'll make another poll

Ja'Crispy

3:21pm

I think Puka and Fred end up 2 and 3. Right now I would go with either Oates or Christensen.

kimdaddy35

3:20pm

Ryan Rehkow! 🫡 But really, Rob Morris should be on this list too.

coug719

3:20pm

Missing Bart Oates

shakarocks

3:22pm

He’s up there

coug719

3:25pm

Todd Christensen, then Fred Warner

RealTaysomHill

3:24pm

People voting McMahon are insane

RealTaysomHill

3:25pm

Ok, new poll with Taysom and Morris is up

Ja'Crispy

3:26pm

Per AV, the top 10 are....

krindorr

3:26pm

John Tait should be on your list.

ArcticKat

4:00pm

Is there anything more American than this?

scootsy Truly Addicted User

3:09pm

Suing the gun manufacturer

Indy Coug

3:13pm

Is this the Amazon worker?

2FarGone

3:15pm

Amazon has since reached out and reversed this fwiw

bythenumbers

3:25pm

It's not good for business...so no, it's not American.

Plantagenet

3:27pm

Plot twist: she was scheduled to be at work when the attack happened. J/K

toukokuu

3:28pm

I'll bet you could fall from a plane and land on the insurers

Born2Fish

3:56pm

It is interesting that the final 4 teams competing for B12 CC berths were...

lbmango

3:07pm

Yeah, adding those teams strengthened the weakened Big 12 after Texas/Oklahoma left

RealTaysomHill

3:09pm

Get Rid of All D1 Bowl Games...

lbmango

3:03pm

Nah...get rid of bowl venues and have 1st/2nd round games be on campus.

Thrill

3:07pm

Or make the first round be neutral at the very least if you must have bowls.

coug719

3:19pm

What about when the 4th weekend in Dec is the 28th like last year?

goidcougs

3:09pm

Just take the top bidders and change conference championships into bowls.

AltTabbins

3:20pm

Joel Klatt was talking about how too much travel can be too hard for fans

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

3:29pm

Yep. Tix for Texas - ASU were dirt cheap because Texas has so much travel

reddead

3:42pm

No way.

Hotty-Toddy-Reb

3:53pm

setting up a fly rod/reel for the first time... so many knots

tyler durden

3:03pm

But good heavens, spinner fishing is super boring.

311polo

3:09pm

we need to get you jigging for bass...

tyler durden

3:31pm

Also boring

letthewookieewin

3:42pm

For a good all around dry fly experience, but you can also do other styles

311polo

3:14pm

was gifted a nice hand made 9'rod a few years ago, and I mentioned my other reel

tyler durden

3:29pm

I would add a tippet ring between leader and tippet, then your leader never

Spine

3:16pm

I'll look into this.

tyler durden

3:30pm

You need to get into tying your own flies.

Paysoncoug88

3:29pm

Xavion Staton featured in a Desert Sun article.

Mostlyaccurate

3:03pm

A great get for KY.

Parker Schnabel

3:34pm

Cool look with the bald head, headband, and glasses. Looks like Kareem.

Unfrozen Caveman

3:38pm

I wonder if he is really 7'1". Based on what I have heard/seen it is more like 6'10". But maybe he has

kimdaddy35

3:43pm

I’ve seen 6’10” as well

4thand19

3:49pm

I think 6'10" is an old measurement that keeps circulating.

LifeLongLakerFan

4:05pm

POLL: Which is the better team

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

3:00pm

we dont know

Count Cougar

3:03pm

Actually, we do

Indy Coug

3:04pm

Not enough info

Carnac

3:17pm

!!!!!!!!!

775coug

3:04pm

What if each of the 0-12 teams that the first team beat were equal to the second team (0-12)? Then team A is clearly

mvtoro

3:04pm

Who's better at basketball, the guy who beat 12 4th graders by one or the guy who lost to 12 NBA players by one?

RealTaysomHill

3:06pm

But why would you assume that the 12-0 teams are actually any good when you’re arguing that the 0-12 team is better?

mvtoro

3:10pm

No, there's not enough info. So that's why you look at other information, such as SOS, SOR, predictive metrics, etc.

RealTaysomHill

3:15pm

That’s what I said. Not enough info to determine either way. That’s why you leave assumptions about who is “better” to

mvtoro

3:22pm

But based on the information we have, it's ok to make a choice. In reality, we will never have enough information

RealTaysomHill

3:29pm

Too extreme

775coug

3:16pm

Depends on which one is in the SEC

mapl3Coug

3:07pm

Whichever one is BYU

2FarGone

3:11pm

There is a way to find out

Carnac

3:11pm

True, but it looks like they may have already played, and if they did, 12-0 team won by a point.

mvtoro

3:15pm

Where does it say they already played?

Carnac

3:18pm

It doesn’t. I said with the info provided they “may” have played, and team A won. The data would fit perfectly. But team

mvtoro

3:20pm

These hypotheticals man..

AltTabbins

3:14pm

They're ridiculous hypotheticals and ridiculously easy to make the right selection

Indy Coug

3:15pm

So the 12-0 team played 12 0-12 teams? And the same season there existed a 0-12

kcca

3:17pm

If they didn’t play each other hard to say, that’s why round robin tournaments

franklyvulgar

3:29pm

BYU had the 13th most difficult SOS in the Big12, per Sagarin

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

2:57pm

Just think...Utah's would have been lower if they could have played themselves

The Chief

2:59pm

One thing about SOS is winning makes it a weaker SOS. If we had gone 2-7 instead

gwalker

3:02pm

That’s surprising with SMU as an OOC game

Odysseus

3:03pm

Wyoming basically nullified them.

kimdaddy35

3:05pm

You're looking in the wrong place. It was our conference schedule that sunk us with this measure.

Indy Coug

3:06pm

Oh I'm aware. But Wyoming nullified the none conference playing SMU. The 17th best team and the 109th best

kimdaddy35

3:14pm

The very unequal Big12 conference schedule worked very hard in our favor

Indy Coug

3:05pm

If the conference would've shaken out as it was picked to they would've had one of the most

jvr7

3:14pm

Which goes to show that none of these polls or metrics are worth anything, just the opinion of the CFP committee.

AltTabbins

3:17pm

TeamRankings has BYU ranked #33 for SOS nationally & #4 in Big12 for 24-25 here:

ByTheirFruits

3:38pm

But just the conference portion was 13/16, I think OP is saying

4thand19

3:50pm

ESPN+
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Great work by Bamacoug in exposing ESPN's FPI rankings:

Chaz Ah You - coaches lied

I want Jackson Dart.

BYU is ready to pay the $20.5M to its Athletes this Spring

No rivalry game in November and last four games are away.

BYU should go after him. Offered him in 2021

Catchings was in a slump for awhile with a very poor shot selection. Young mentioned he wanted Kanon to focus

So cool to see in slow motion

Who says no?

4 loss Bama's ranking, per the analytics

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