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Sep 26, 2013
9:00:09pm

ChipsAhoy McCoy

How to debunk the myth: where a BYU shirt next rivalry game and see.

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ChipsAhoy McCoy

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Best interview ever by Benedict on 1280 now

cougarmikey

9/26/13 3:36pm

i'll still read your post even though it was done on an iphone

9/26/13 3:39pm

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Buffalo

9/26/13 3:41pm

Benedict does it again: Beer-pouring Utah fans at RES

The Joneses

9/26/13 3:40pm

But they don't put themselves on a pedestal!

RealComfortableJeans

9/26/13 3:59pm

Let's forget the fact that it's pretty much impossible to pour anything

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:00pm

We can only believe what the media reports.

kccougar

9/26/13 4:01pm

Just believe what you're told. That's a winning strategy.

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:04pm

Thanks for walking right into that.

kccougar

9/26/13 4:06pm

Did I say anything about beer inside the stadium? Did I deny that

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:11pm

Not to mention that there are virtually always cameras on players

Scratch

9/26/13 4:37pm

Yeah the same law enforcement that allowed bronco to get pelted

BYU '80

9/27/13 6:26am

Interesting how stories of "beer pouring" have become a rivalry myth

Urbanite

9/26/13 5:10pm

Not really. I've personally been hit by a beer at RES. No myth there.

P-Widdy

9/26/13 7:50pm

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Shore10

9/26/13 8:09pm

Happened to my dad in '84. I was sitting

gwalker

9/26/13 8:59pm

Insert typical yewt response here: Stop living in the past. 1984 was long ago.

9/27/13 3:56am

How to debunk the myth: where a BYU shirt next rivalry game and see.

ChipsAhoy McCoy

9/26/13 9:00pm

When They're told gleefully by your own fans, it becomes hard to deny.

John Doe

9/26/13 10:21pm

Since the BYU Sideline is on the BYU Fan/Old Crimson Club Seats

vandalute

9/26/13 8:38pm

RE: Since the BYU Sideline is on the BYU Fan/Old Crimson Club Seats

9/26/13 10:45pm

Monson & Checketts did everything they could to discredit the article

9/26/13 3:41pm

So failure to confirm the alleged fact meant that they had to state it as fact?

Scratch

9/26/13 3:51pm

Darren Lacy is the one that said it. I'll go with that over your explanation

Jkampana

9/26/13 3:54pm

Lucy also said he's a BYU fan. There's contradictory statements by him, and

Scratch

9/26/13 3:59pm

When did he say he's a BYU fan?

9/26/13 4:42pm

Here on your board...

9/26/13 4:45pm

Now you're in trouble.

Scratch

9/26/13 4:45pm

Before I get more abuse reports...

El Jefe

9/26/13 5:41pm

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Shore10

9/26/13 8:08pm

other than using first person terms when describing BYU

deek1906

9/26/13 6:01pm

I can show you countless examples of Ute trolls pretending to be BYU fans

El Jefe

9/26/13 6:27pm

Right. So doesn't it stand to reason that someone ("Lucy") could also pose as a

9/26/13 11:39pm

To be fair, his actions point more towards a U fan than a Y fan

El Jefe

9/26/13 11:45pm

Well, there's the rub, eh? Your conjecture and opinion says it's more likely a U

9/27/13 12:09am

He was just going off of the information he saw in the papers

El Jefe

9/27/13 12:39am

So, you admit, then, it's fiction, not journalism? Journalism has one set of

9/27/13 1:00am

Umm... Do you know what fiction means? It was not fiction. Human Interest.

cougarmikey

9/27/13 1:20am

Then he shouldn't have treated the Utah part of it like investigative

Scratch

9/27/13 1:02am

Maybe he did...The answer was not relevant.

cougarmikey

9/27/13 1:21am

Anyone can open a profile using DLucy___ on CB, that doesn't mean he's the ...

icecougar

9/26/13 7:50pm

So someone did that on CB before the infamous email was even sent to the U?

Scratch

9/26/13 7:58pm

On a cougarboard post that was deleted. I can't link to the screenshot

Scratch

9/26/13 4:45pm

Here's the problem -- motivation.

TheRowdy

9/26/13 5:15pm

The girlfriend story was posted by a credible poster here

Scratch

9/26/13 5:22pm

I didn't know that. Not sure how that get's "backed up by Jefe" though.

TheRowdy

9/26/13 5:28pm

The most probable answer is he is neither, but the point is no one knows, so it

9/26/13 6:21pm

What do u want him to write? The email is a huge part of the story

BYU '80

9/27/13 6:20am

My demands are small, I just want him to write the facts and not interject bias.

9/27/13 7:14am

Of course Daren Lucy isn't his real name

BYU '80

9/27/13 10:00am

I do have insight into his searching, at lets just say it was less than rigorous

9/27/13 10:26am

Wow. You need reading help

BYU '80

9/27/13 10:42am

Of course he wouldn't want to talk to the guy if doing so would disrupt

Scratch

9/27/13 10:54am

It would have added readers and still told his story

BYU '80

9/27/13 11:53am

Really? Because I always reported cheating when I saw it. Pretty stupid not to.

9/27/13 10:56am

I wasn't worried about this particular player

BYU '80

9/27/13 11:58am

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Shore10

9/26/13 8:17pm

A similar question should be posed to the U Compliance Office.

Rocketman

9/26/13 3:56pm

Huh?

Scratch

9/26/13 4:00pm

Why didn't the U Compliance Office take some time to verify a few basic facts?

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:02pm

She didn't affirmatively publicize unverified claims. She passed them off to

Scratch

9/26/13 4:03pm

Really. Please explain how the contents of the e-mail and the pics ended up in

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:08pm

Um, they weren't leaked?

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:25pm

Who told the media what to ask for in the GRAMA request? Who told the media

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:27pm

dlucy did with his cougarboard post. That post said that the Tribune

Scratch

9/26/13 4:28pm

Wow! Rumors on Cougarboard now dictate the news huh?

9/26/13 4:31pm

It's what led to the Trib requesting the documents, apparently. That's where

Scratch

9/26/13 4:34pm

Here's the problem with that theory..

9/26/13 4:42pm

The GRAMA requests came after Hadley was announced as suspended for violating...

9/26/13 4:47pm

I suspect there will more forthcoming on this story..... can't wait.

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:34pm

Two days before the story broke, someone on Utefans was talking in the typical

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:38pm

THAT'S BECAUSE SOMEONE SAW A POST ON COUGARBOARD ABOUT IT!!!

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:40pm

Cougarboard is the original source? LOL

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:43pm

Seriously? There is NOTHING that predates the CB post.

Scratch

9/26/13 4:47pm

Except the e-mail to the U.

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:52pm

Wrong. The cougarboard post came first. Look at the post and the email.

Scratch

9/26/13 4:54pm

Please board mail me the screen shot.

Rocketman

9/26/13 4:57pm

Pretty sure there is something that pre dates the BYU post.

BYU '80

9/27/13 6:34am

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macktruck32

9/26/13 4:48pm

She seemed interested in fact gathering when she asked for photos

BYU '80

9/27/13 6:30am

To be clear...

9/27/13 7:37am

Saying it likely is related to am estranged

BYU '80

9/27/13 10:12am

So as a compliance officer, you would suppress evidence on NCAA wrongdoing?

9/27/13 11:00am

No I would actually try to determine if what I was looking at is evidence

BYU '80

9/27/13 12:01pm

So are you a Utah fan posing as a Cougar fan on this board? I'm trying to figure

cougarmikey

9/27/13 12:28pm

I'm pretty sure he is a ute fan. He made the comment of "your board" to someone

Beeker

9/27/13 12:55pm

Oh and the boyfriend leap isn't mine, it is an accusation made by a respected...

9/27/13 11:01am

Who is also guessing..

BYU '80

9/27/13 12:04pm

This dude could be Darren Lucy for all we know. Similar writing style

cougarmikey

9/27/13 12:47pm

They prefer Gymnastics at the Yew.

BluePie

9/27/13 12:56pm

Because we are supposed to believe the Jabari lady had nothing but good intent

CG4BYU

9/26/13 4:04pm

So what do you want him to say in his article? That Darren Lucy says in his

9/26/13 4:04pm

I've never heard a reporter state as fact that Darren Lucy was a Ute fan. Only..

9/26/13 4:15pm

You serious Clark?

9/26/13 4:28pm

I missed that quote from the article. He should have said "alleged" Utah fan.

9/26/13 4:48pm

Ute fans are mad because their fanbase has been exposed nationally

BYU '80

9/27/13 6:22am

An assertion in an anonymous email from a burner account is now 'fact'?

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:31pm

By your assertion, everything on CB is also true..

9/26/13 4:32pm

<sigh> When did I assert that? It's the opposite. An anonymous email isn't any</sigh>

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:36pm

The ncaa violations were proven to be false. Cant prove this wasn't a ute fan.

9/26/13 4:38pm

If Benedict were the crack investigative reporter he claims to be, he would've

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:42pm

you actually think a post on a fan board carries the same validity as

9/26/13 6:02pm

Comprehension fail: The only fact is that in the email he identified himself...

9/26/13 4:41pm

Monson and Checketts are terrible at their jobs.

toogoodforU

9/26/13 3:54pm

Monson supportive; Checketts misdirecting

djbryant79

9/26/13 8:21pm

I have a Yewt fan here at work that won't go to games at RES.

BluePie

9/26/13 3:41pm

mpfunk won't even attend a game at RES.

kccougar

9/26/13 3:51pm

i know several. longtime season tix holders who've stopped going. but

9/26/13 3:53pm

He essentially confirmed that Utah fans are rabid and cross the line and

cougarmikey

9/26/13 4:04pm

That was a good interview.

9/26/13 3:45pm

Showering refs with garbage and epithets doesn't count as 'vile' or

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:06pm

Showering refs with garbage = little baby plastics Pom Poms

bYu95070

9/26/13 4:19pm

So the TYPE of projectile is what separates vile and perfectly acceptable. I see

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:23pm

LOL - And they weren't shouting anything at the refs either, they were singing

9/26/13 4:31pm

Cherry picking a post or two out of thousands and attributing it to an entire

benny1982

9/26/13 4:35pm

I'm seriously asking if Jeff Benedict doesn't think that kind of behavior

macktruck32

9/26/13 4:38pm

I have no idea. I haven't heard him address it. Either he hasn't seen it or no

benny1982

9/26/13 4:42pm

The point about the behavior piece was to point out what fans do to each other

BYU '80

9/27/13 6:38am

I'm responding to the thread created by bYu95070 who said it was 'baby pom-poms'

9/26/13 4:50pm

I think you're overstating it by quite a bit. But whatever.

benny1982

9/26/13 4:56pm

Look, they handed out little miniature plastic Pom poms at the game

bYu95070

9/26/13 6:21pm

Spence getting his feelings hurt in that article

SparseMesh

9/26/13 3:45pm

Monson and Spence getting their panties in a wad because BYU gave him so much

9/26/13 3:48pm

Wait... BYU does need the media, let's not act like we don't...

9/26/13 4:31pm

Both Spence and Gordon now having a post-interview meltdown.

kccougar

9/26/13 3:46pm

just tuned in, very funny. I guess 1280 can be entertaining lol

permiso

9/26/13 3:48pm

Yeah, Monson is going to lecture Benedict on Journalistic standards.

9/26/13 3:49pm

Yet neither of them had the nerve to say any of it to Benedict directly..

9/26/13 3:49pm

Wonder why BYU doesn't "trust" them...Then they bulk anyone with critical texts

cougarmikey

9/26/13 4:12pm

Listening to Gordon try to discredit him is embarrassing right now.

cougarmikey

9/26/13 3:51pm

Pretty much. He, Tony Jones, and Spence are all getting uptight about this.

CG4BYU

9/26/13 3:56pm

Pretty much lifting up their skirts and showing the color of their undies...

9/26/13 4:41pm

If it wasn't crystal clear before it certainly is now...

kccougar

9/26/13 4:08pm

Well said. The fact is if Gordon was on that bus...thi article would not be wri

cougarmikey

9/26/13 4:15pm

Gordo, 08/2013: "Bronco's an idiot!"....Gordo, 09/2013: "Hey, why won't BYU...

9/26/13 4:29pm

Somebody post the recording when it's available.

cougfanblue

9/26/13 3:59pm

I posted it a few minutes ago in a new thread.

9/26/13 4:02pm

link?

toogoodforU

9/26/13 4:04pm

Here you go.

9/26/13 4:09pm

Gracias

toogoodforU

9/26/13 4:12pm

Cool, thanks

cougfanblue

9/26/13 4:08pm

He's a BYU honk, what do you expect.

hanzelka

9/26/13 5:26pm

Well spoken.

Coug Dude

9/26/13 5:35pm

Link to Audio

yapacoug

9/26/13 6:06pm

Both of those goons are pitiful. Still don't know why they're on the radio.

Real Men Wear Blue

9/26/13 6:36pm

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Shore10

9/26/13 8:05pm

Gordon and Spencer letting out their "Inner Utes"

Shore10

9/26/13 8:04pm

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