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The_Cuss
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Yeah sure, wait some more. That worked out well for the PAC12... LOL
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Big Athletic report just dropped
Art Director
2/9/23 10:55am
Um has there really been talk of the PAC getting more money by anyone legit
Nat Gas Man
2/9/23 10:58am
That writer acts like someone wants the content. 🙄
Viva Campeche
2/9/23 11:00am
To answer your question as simply as possible:
The_Cuss
2/9/23 11:49am
All obvious stuff
Mitty
2/9/23 10:59am
Sometimes university presidents need you to really spell it out for them.
Art Director
2/9/23 11:01am
Explain it to them like they're five.
squidmark
2/9/23 1:37pm
So that 31.6 million is only part of the money pie the Big 12 gets, right?
Adrielle
2/9/23 11:05am
TV only. Does not include playoff, bowl, NCAA credits, etc.
mulletino
2/9/23 11:08am
As a point of reference, the P12 existing TV deal pays each team $21mm/yr but...
Das_Countach
2/9/23 1:29pm
Yes
SUAVO
2/9/23 11:10am
Correct. Estimated total per team is $51 million. The $31 mil is only for TV. It
BlooCoog
2/9/23 11:17am
The article basically confirms the PAC expansion strategy is to invite teams, give them a small share of revenue,
TCuz
2/9/23 11:07am
Excess is going to certain schools, Utah not one of them. Pretty sure it
Blue for Life
2/9/23 11:12am
Why would other PAC schools agree to that? UW/UO have nowhere to go.
NorCal_Coug
2/9/23 11:15am
The B12 is always an option for them. The B12 would take them for sure. Main
LifeLongLakerFan
2/9/23 11:43am
It will be an option until the conference is full at 16. After that I think
Nat Gas Man
2/9/23 11:47am
Let's say the B10 comes to visit again, who are they going after?
Blue for Life
2/9/23 1:55pm
If it’s in the west obviously some combo of Wash/UO/Stanford…. BUT
NorCal_Coug
2/9/23 7:04pm
Doesn't matter if they can't go anywhere. They think they can, so won't sign GOR
akbarishiwatsu
2/9/23 2:33pm
It's a winning long-term strategy.
Art Director
2/9/23 11:12am
Which is a great short term strategy for Oregon and Washington.
Baylorbears11
2/9/23 12:05pm
That will be a long wait
Nat Gas Man
2/9/23 12:11pm
Yeah sure, wait some more. That worked out well for the PAC12... LOL
The_Cuss
2/9/23 12:13pm
It's bad long term for PAC, but Oregon and Washington want B1G and $$$...
Baylorbears11
2/9/23 12:40pm
They can want all they want. Rumors are going around that USC vetoed OR to the
Nat Gas Man
2/9/23 12:46pm
That may be, but if they think they have a longterm future in the PAC...
Baylorbears11
2/9/23 12:54pm
Exactly it is a complete mess
Nat Gas Man
2/9/23 1:17pm
I thought it was more that Oregon doesn't fit academically in the B1G
Schultz is back
2/9/23 5:55pm
So a ponzi scheme.
panacablue
2/9/23 12:21pm
But those partial-share agreements only last a few years, so who cares?
Mitty
2/9/23 1:13pm
So George was not kicking (butt)?
CougarCanuck76
2/9/23 11:28am
Well, he is involved in a butt kicking
NOCAL_YFAN
2/9/23 11:39am
Wait, the WAC10 is struggling to find buyers for their weak sports product?
The_Cuss
2/9/23 11:54am
Kliavkoff "overpromised" according to the PAC 12 AD interviewed. It's left some
BlooCoog
2/9/23 1:14pm
Please stop eyeing Utah
YOHONOMOTO
2/9/23 1:28pm
You're missing probably the most critical paragraph there:
TFL
2/9/23 1:47pm
Selling off your rights to a streamer at this point just to boost your payout
SLIVER
2/9/23 1:54pm
If the app isn't connected to Amazon prime nobody outside of fans of that
SUAVO
2/9/23 1:59pm
Even if it’s on Prime the results will be questionable
YOHONOMOTO
2/9/23 2:25pm
Very true, but prime is their best option
SUAVO
2/9/23 2:33pm
I agree. However, it's not a doomsday scenario if the price tag is $30 million +. Big 12 guys have been claiming
TFL
2/9/23 2:05pm
It's not the pac12's decision on who gets their tier 1 rights. If it's ESPN,
SUAVO
2/9/23 2:19pm
It absolutely is. Amazon knows it is overpaying and everyone else knows the PAC will not attract any eyeballs.
TheLoneCougar
2/9/23 2:23pm
Nah...missing the CFP is 100% due to parity when the top teams were upset. Oregon, USC and Utah have all bumped
TFL
2/9/23 2:41pm
If the Pac 12 is going all in on money vs visibility, they aren't going
byusage
2/9/23 2:49pm
I showed you the numbers. Casual fans are seeing the big games. That's all that matters. 12-team format will only help
TFL
2/9/23 2:57pm
So, who is going to pick up those games? If Amazon has tier 1and ESPN has tier 2
SUAVO
2/9/23 4:18pm
Everyone wants to see USC return to greatness, that had little to nothing to do with Utah. Sorry, as great as your
TheLoneCougar
2/9/23 3:27pm
Weird...because I bet most those watching weren't USC or Utah fans rather those who wanted to see Utah win
TFL
2/9/23 6:05pm
They watched to see if USC would win the conference. The biggest storyline in
SUAVO
2/9/23 6:19pm
The hubris is amazing. People turned out to watch and see if USC was going to make the CFP. College football benefits
TheLoneCougar
2/9/23 7:16pm
People outside of Utah fans wanted to see Utah win to get a playoff spot?
Blue for Life
2/10/23 7:17am
They wanted Utah to beat USC, so USC misses the playoffs and opens up a spot for Alabama, TCU or Ohio State
TFL
2/10/23 12:40pm
That I can see and looking at your post I see it says to open up a spot.
Blue for Life
2/10/23 1:53pm
I gotcha. No worries.
TFL
2/10/23 1:55pm
When Utah figures out how to beat a P5 opponent not in the PAC, you can consider using the word great.
slatecoug
2/9/23 11:21pm
And how have most of the PAC games fared?
slatecoug
2/9/23 11:19pm
It's not just Big 12 guys claiming the low 20's
slatecoug
2/9/23 11:18pm
Those 2-months old predictions are starting to be questioned
RGGeemer
2/9/23 2:06pm
Marchand has hedged that recently...
Baylorbears11
2/9/23 2:11pm
The problem is Amazons streaming numbers for the NFL came in far lower than
Nat Gas Man
2/9/23 2:19pm
If it was streaming-only across the board including tier 1, you're right. It doesn't seem like that's the case. Let's be
TFL
2/9/23 2:30pm
True...but it would seem that expansion is a continuation or a necessity to secure that amount. I get it. It's not ideal
TFL
2/9/23 2:28pm
Try selling streaming on Amazon over playing on ESPN to a recruit
deliciousmocha
2/9/23 3:09pm
ESPN is likely the other network with Amazon.
TFL
2/9/23 3:25pm
Ouch
HairyCougar
2/10/23 9:59am
Don't burst TFL's bubble. He is absolutely convinced he is right. After all he
The_Cuss
2/10/23 12:41pm
Ourand has since backtracked from that guess in his subsequent podcasts.
HairyCougar
2/9/23 4:45pm
Talk about searching high and low to try and find a source.
slatecoug
2/9/23 11:16pm
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