That is an absolutely horrible pitch to Whalin. If I'm him, that pitch isn't

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Mar 25, 2025
3:57:59pm

Lance71 All-American

That is an absolutely horrible pitch to Whalin. If I'm him, that pitch isn't

getting me to BYU.

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Lance71

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BYU's conundrum in the Portal

kimdaddy35 Nicer In Real Life

Mar 25, 2:59pm

I think BYU will bring in competition for the assumed starters

LosAlcoug

Mar 25, 3:01pm

I think so too. Young and co have ambitions for the final 4 and beyond.

APowerfulY

Mar 25, 5:01pm

that is also the nba model

bald man

Mar 25, 5:13pm

It’s not on byu most high transfers aren’t going to a place without a guaranteed

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:29pm

I think that BYU playing a deep bench can be a good selling point

BYU Fan

Mar 25, 3:01pm

I agree. A deep rotation also lightens the strain on player's bodies.

WVU_Prof

Mar 25, 5:58pm

Not sure that Hall will start if we pick up a better PG. Hall is good, not great.

byujacob

Mar 25, 3:01pm

Hall is better than anyone we're likely to get in the portal. You don't replace

Trappist1F

Mar 25, 3:21pm

The UNM guy would be a better PG. He'll also be tough to get.

runnincoug

Mar 25, 3:41pm

He'd be a great addition, but I don't think we'll pay him what someone

Trappist1F

Mar 25, 3:51pm

I bet we would let Hall walk if we nail down an elite PG. We also need to bring

kotacoug

Mar 25, 4:06pm

That would be a big mistake as Hall as shown he can lead teams to wins at Kansas

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:42pm

Hot take, I guess: we don't need a scoring guard, we need a facilitator

scherbie

Mar 25, 3:53pm

How is Crawford developing? Could he fill this role?

lbmango

Mar 25, 7:30pm

Everyone assumed Hall would start last year too, until we got Demin.

OverratedHumor

Mar 25, 5:02pm

Hall has been the primary PG in crunch time and with pressure. Demin is great in

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:37pm

If Hall is a starter, he will be by far the weakest link. If we have aspirations for a deep tournament run, we will

KYU

Mar 25, 10:19pm

We aren’t going to get a high level scorer at pg. With AJ and Saunders we need

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:32pm

It is crazy that the portal opens before the games end. So stupid

BYUheaven

Mar 25, 3:01pm

Both FB and BB. It’s so dumb.

Resurgens

Mar 25, 9:21pm

Do we think Bosko will play mostly center or PF next year?

HoopDawg

Mar 25, 3:02pm

Some of both. He is a good guy to have who can play the 4 with another Center but also play the

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:13pm

Which is why it's silly that some think we're too good for Jake Wahlin

Jesse Pinkman

Mar 25, 3:02pm

? is do you think he actually would be content to come in on a reduced role?

Cougz19

Mar 25, 3:10pm

If Wahlin was on this years team, he'd struggle to average double digit minutes.

tacallaway

Mar 25, 3:19pm

he would be probably allocated Traore mins

Cougz19

Mar 25, 3:26pm

Why would he get Fouss' minutes when he wouldn't play Fouss' role?

tacallaway

Mar 25, 3:40pm

He would give us another mobile and versatile big which would allow us to play..

icecougar

Mar 25, 9:16pm

I love Bosko but Wahlin is a better shooter, defender and athlete with more

marinact

Mar 25, 4:30pm

Ummm a guy like him isn’t playing 15-20 min for us. Those are starters minutes

kotacoug

Mar 25, 4:07pm

I don't think it's so much that we're too good for him, as that we don't have the role

krindorr

Mar 25, 5:40pm

Every fish needs to choose its pond. 12 mpg winning championships is often

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 6:12pm

If you can play with AJ, why wouldn't you?

Sparkling Delirium

Mar 25, 3:04pm

Because you're not going to be 'the' guy

Jesse Pinkman

Mar 25, 3:06pm

I see it as a selling point. Example is Keita- took the starting point. Gets 50%

SBB

Mar 25, 3:04pm

The fact that KY plays 11 guys and many have improved their playing time and as

SanPedroCougar

Mar 25, 3:10pm

Waterman and Khalifa got $600k, not $1M.

Schultz is back

Mar 25, 4:05pm

Curious why the thumbs down...makes perfect sense to me.

Lifer

Mar 25, 3:04pm

I hate generally hate thumbs down without comment

SBB

Mar 25, 3:07pm

Hall should keep the same role as this year

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 25, 3:07pm

I tend to agree, but I don't think Hall stays if that is what he thinks will happen. If BYU brings in a top

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:14pm

If so, so be it. Can't mess up the AJ year by getting sentimental.

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 25, 3:17pm

I agree if you have a no brainer upgrade like Donovan Dent then you take it. But there aren't a ton of those guys out

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:21pm

This is the assumption

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 25, 3:33pm

It’s got nothing to do with sentimentality. Team culture is gonna struggle if

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 3:25pm

💯 when I read some of these posts it’s like guys have never played team

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:56pm

We have a few 2K GMs on here who don't contemplate fit in the system or culture

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 11:57pm

I think we'd be very hard pressed to get a better player than Hall

BYU Fan

Mar 25, 3:26pm

My biggest issue with Hall is the way he runs the offense. He struggles to not want to dribble a lot and the ball gets

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:59pm

Demin is great in the open cour. Hall is much better in the half court and with

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:50pm

I disagree

scherbie

Mar 25, 3:15pm

That is a very risky move given Hall’s position as a leader and veteran guy

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 3:20pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hall enter the portal to see what else is out there for him regardless of

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 4:02pm

Do you watch the games? Hall is the primary PG in crunch time and when we have

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:38pm

Give Pope credit, he was able to go get 10 guys willing

bald man

Mar 25, 3:07pm

Pope?

BYUMizzou

Mar 25, 3:07pm

Guys that don't start on their college team aren't getting paid much after

Lifer

Mar 25, 3:10pm

Hopefully we bring in guys that want the competition and believe they can start, whether they do or not

Remigius

Mar 25, 3:07pm

If they're freshmen or sophomores maybe they don't win the spot but feel like

Covid-19

Mar 25, 3:19pm

The biggest conundrum is they are still playing and may not know who all will leave

Littlerich

Mar 25, 3:09pm

I think the coaches have a very good idea.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:11pm

Hopefully they do. I wonder, though if some players decisions may depend on how far the team goes in the tourney

Littlerich

Mar 25, 3:19pm

The NIL budgeting has already started - they are VERY aware

VinnyBYU

Mar 25, 3:18pm

For every player, they can play themselves into minutes. Even baker could get

Cougarclaw

Mar 25, 3:11pm

So this is obviously true, but if you are trying to recruit the best players pitching them on getting some

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:17pm

Which is why somebody like Whalin is appealing to me. He could backup 3 or 4 spots potentially and he

mokelembembe

Mar 25, 3:15pm

So I kept saying no on Wahlin over and over because guys thought he would be a starter for us or replace Mag or

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:20pm

Didn't realize Pinkman above basically said the same thing. But yeah, so correct..it needed to be said twice for Archaea

mokelembembe

Mar 25, 3:24pm

That is an absolutely horrible pitch to Whalin. If I'm him, that pitch isn't

Lance71

Mar 25, 3:57pm

And therein lies the rub.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 4:34pm

That's not the pitch, that's how I view him. The pitch would be we're losing 3 starters...best man wins those jobs

mokelembembe

Mar 25, 4:43pm

Careful, a few posters will crucify you for suggesting this!

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 3:17pm

Apparently.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:21pm

BYU's conundrum is not knowing what we need right now

BYU Fan

Mar 25, 3:19pm

I think the coaching staff has a very good idea on what they need. The guy who is probably the most unknown would

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:25pm

I don't think Richie will be impressive in work outs. That's just not his game.

Lance71

Mar 25, 3:59pm

I don't think Richie leaves, but the biggest part of the workouts that scouts are looking at will be

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 4:03pm

Because of the money, people with one year of eligibility

Plato

Mar 25, 3:20pm

We need a starting SG, a 5 to share minutes and a PG to share minutes.

kotacoug

Mar 25, 4:04pm

Except just like this season, last year starters are not guaranteed to

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 4:27pm

It is hard to take you seriously.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 5:00pm

Try harder. Meanwhile admit the point. The best players will start. Nobody is

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 6:20pm

How many games did knell start in the tournament? Maybe both. Maybe none

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 6:22pm

I think that's a very narrow and limiting way to view it...

icecougar

Mar 25, 8:45pm

I don’t think it’s as bleak as you say.

D.T. Survivor

Mar 25, 9:18pm

Nobody's spots are safe. Yeah AJ will start. Saunders will likely start

archie

Mar 25, 10:36pm

On the flip side of that...

pittsburghcoug

Mar 25, 11:52pm

You guys crack me up. Who knows what we will need until we see what everyone

Cougarbib

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