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Dec 1, 2024
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SeattleBYUfan
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Was it play calling or execution?
I would say the majority of the time it is execution. Does he overthink some times? Yes. It is a hard place. Everyone complained about Anae, Detmer, Doman. Never happy! Always thinking there is a pot of gold out there at the end of the rainbow!
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Anybody ripping on A Rod
SeattleBYUfan
Dec 1, 1:14am
Just insane when you have wide open guys dropping it all over the place and
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:16am
Sounds like they're coached super well and the offense is well coordinated.
foofcoug
Dec 1, 1:20am
This is true! The fans need to do better and be better
coot20
Dec 1, 11:22am
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BigHouse Coug
Dec 1, 1:20am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:21am
I love when Arod lovers get ratioed non-stop… also, this comment is hilarious
Das_Countach
Dec 1, 7:47am
Maybe Fesi needs to work with his position group more?
TheLoneCougar
Dec 1, 8:54am
No but he did call a fade. No excuses for that. He knows Jake can’t do it, so why call it?!
cougarfanatic
Dec 1, 1:17am
Very little chance that was the first read for that play call.
JuicyJam
Dec 1, 1:18am
The option to throw the ball should not have even been in play. When that throw
indocoug
Dec 3, 12:20am
I don’t disagree with that!
SeattleBYUfan
Dec 1, 1:19am
So completely eliminate a route on every play? It wasnt supposed to go there
775coug
Dec 1, 1:25am
Standard play sheesh when are people going to get over that?
GoodBetterBestBYU
Dec 1, 1:31am
actually he probably knows Jake can do it, because he has done it
BYURider
Dec 1, 7:23am
Biggest issue was a fade to a TE.
ImuaKahuku
Dec 1, 7:58am
Jake called and threw the fade
I'mBatman
Dec 1, 8:18am
Then as OC you have to say "this is the play. DO NOT AUDIBLE OUT." They weren't stopping the run, we had 2 TO left. The
unctoothman
Dec 1, 8:32am
You don't micromanage a QB like that. You teach him the principles and let him go out there and play ball.
TheLoneCougar
Dec 1, 8:57am
Yes, until he repeatedly does it. At the end of the day, it's your (OCs) job on the line if QB fails. Not his. It's okay
unctoothman
Dec 1, 9:49am
My job isn't on the line at 10-2.
TheLoneCougar
Dec 1, 3:35pm
How does an offense have success if you can’t trust the QB to audible?
puntersarepeople
Dec 1, 9:04am
I didn't say don't allow him to audible. Buy in critical situations where you as the OC have more experience, at least
unctoothman
Dec 1, 9:52am
I don’t totally disagree but you have to factor in the games we may lose by not
puntersarepeople
Dec 1, 12:19pm
And if there have been any that we have lost because we were not able to audible, then I will concede that point.
unctoothman
Dec 1, 1:52pm
Are we still gnashing our teeth over a game weeks ago? Sheesh
BoiseBYU1
Dec 1, 10:19am
Well it's kind of a big deal if it's a mistake and you don't learn from it. And given that it's not the first time a
unctoothman
Dec 1, 10:29am
What about the time it did work?
chilawcoug
Dec 1, 10:39am
If the quarterback can't put it over the correct shoulder, you can't call the play. I love the confidence to make the
unctoothman
Dec 1, 1:58pm
At what point is the OC responsible for the offense’s performance?
HRCougar
Dec 1, 1:17am
Now....and that's why his job is safe
kosmokramer
Dec 1, 1:19am
It’s an honest question eyeroller
HRCougar
Dec 1, 1:19am
What exactly are the complaints?
Belboz
Dec 1, 1:23am
It’s pretty simple to me. The offense is not performing well enough.
HRCougar
Dec 1, 1:25am
Believe it or not, BYU won 10 games. They hardly failed
Belboz
Dec 1, 1:26am
Who said they failed?
HRCougar
Dec 1, 1:32am
With what BYU had, they went 10-2. I guess a better defense could have helped
Belboz
Dec 1, 1:38am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:28am
45th best offense is great if we are happy with being ranked overall around 45
HRCougar
Dec 1, 1:34am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:36am
Would you be happy right now if we were 6-6 and had lost 6 in a row?
HRCougar
Dec 1, 1:40am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:45am
I think BYU might even be ranked in the top 20 right now, but let's not spoil it
Belboz
Dec 1, 1:40am
Coaches put their players in a position to succeed or fail by what they call...
imdocrob
Dec 1, 6:58am
112th 3rd down conversion rate
djetal
Dec 1, 9:12am
BYU’s offense is well above average in most total offense rankings. Some on CB
NYC and Japan
Dec 1, 9:45am
No it’s not— bring your specific data w/ your assertions
Das_Countach
Dec 1, 9:47am
From NCAA.com Total Offense - I don't think any are adjusted for difficulty
NYC and Japan
Dec 1, 3:04pm
There you go. All above average. Most are top 35, most difficulty adjusted are
NYC and Japan
Dec 1, 3:05pm
This might help
GoodBetterBestBYU
Dec 1, 3:54pm
I feel you're backtracking a bit because no one would suggest that 36 out of 68
Das_Countach
Dec 3, 9:23am
ARod said he doesn't worry about 3rd down conversion
acougfan
Dec 1, 2:08pm
45th ranked offense and a 10 win team in a power conference... Our fans man.
TheLoneCougar
Dec 1, 9:00am
I fully expect a blue blood to swoop in and poach ARod, he’s that good
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:18am
You have absolutely no idea if that’s true or if it is, why. Literally a made up
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:19am
Let’s find out
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:21am
You are not plainly no expert on football
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:22am
Your go to, only you know ball
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:25am
No I think there’s plenty of evidence that people who know ball think well of
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:28am
I thought utah didn't want him
acougfan
Dec 1, 1:30am
That was a long time ago. You think they wouldn’t change offenses with us now?
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:35am
Utah is hiring Wazzu’s OC, who is actually creative
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:36am
If he was regarded highly, he'd have interviewed from other jobs a la Jay Hill. He's safe at BYU, he's also a limitation
unctoothman
Dec 1, 8:02am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:23am
Made up? How can you make up an opinion of the future?
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:26am
You made up a story. About the future, yes, but it is a fiction.
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:29am
Opinion is not a story
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:38am
RE: Opinion is not a story
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:40am
RE: Opinion is not a story
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:56am
The guy who coached Wilson and Hall and two top 25 offenses couldn’t get a job?
puntersarepeople
Dec 1, 1:29am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:29am
I’m dying to see if my opinion is correct or not
RenoCoug
Dec 1, 1:32am
That’s just recklessness
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:34am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:36am
It’s a shrewder assumption than that he is some desired commodity
vegas guey
Dec 1, 1:24am
NOT TRUE!!!!! I am sure he could be a WR coach somewhere.
indocoug
Dec 1, 1:59am
You are right ... he is great!! The offense just kept getting better and better
acougfan
Dec 1, 1:18am
It surely improved from last season.
Belboz
Dec 1, 1:23am
Was it play calling or execution?
SeattleBYUfan
Dec 1, 1:23am
People didn't like Norm Chow either
Belboz
Dec 1, 1:27am
Crazy thing is coaches actually should coach to improve execution
acougfan
Dec 1, 1:27am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:30am
How about scoring? Especially in the red zone- huge drop off- the KU game
acougfan
Dec 1, 1:32am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:38am
And yet, coaches still aren't the ones out there making mistakes and dropping passes.
TheLoneCougar
Dec 1, 9:01am
It was both. And both are his responsibility. But mostly playcalling. BYU will
indocoug
Dec 1, 2:13am
It's both, but he's responsible for who they recruit on offense
deliciousmocha
Dec 1, 12:00pm
The offense has sputtered two years in a row. We got 10 wins mainly on the
WillsPitStop
Dec 1, 1:20am
Some of that is true. But how many repeated mistakes this year?
gmj81
Dec 1, 1:21am
Believing A-Rod doesn't deserve any criticism is a dumb take.
BigHouse Coug
Dec 1, 1:27am
It’s actually embarrassing considering the history of the BYU brand
vegas guey
Dec 1, 1:32am
We're the same fan base that hated Norm Chow
Belboz
Dec 1, 1:34am
Ding ding ding ding.
Socrates Johnson
Dec 1, 1:36am
We’re also the same fans who hated Tuiaki years before KS. Funk too
vegas guey
Dec 1, 1:54am
At least the defensive rankings backed that opinion up.
chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:56am
And you have a very creative memory, or are you just guessing?
Les IsMore
Dec 1, 9:23am
Yes and I think everyone should expect a higher standard for a BYU offensive
BigHouse Coug
Dec 1, 1:35am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:46am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:51am
Arod fanboys furious that anyone dare wish for improved offense
vegas guey
Dec 1, 1:48am
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chilawcoug
Dec 1, 1:50am
This post shows a critical assumption that you’re making
puntersarepeople
Dec 1, 1:59am
The last time a BYU qb threw for 300+ yards? About 8 days ago
Greg Kite's 'stache
Dec 1, 10:03am
Versus D1 competition, that's the only time he threw for 300 yards this year
deliciousmocha
Dec 1, 12:04pm
Did he call 8 million jet sweeps on frozen fields where runner can't make the
imdocrob
Dec 1, 6:56am
I bet most of those that are critical of the game have never
BulldogCoug79
Dec 1, 8:11am
Then run more, especially when you are running really well.
ochobeeguy
Dec 1, 8:28am
ARod (like Retzlaff) is good not great. A solid 7.5/10. But if we want to win
JWin
Dec 1, 8:11am
This feels like the fans who defended Tuiaki.
wilsdad
Dec 1, 8:17am
...may have some valid points while perhaps exaggerating in other places
cajuncoug
Dec 1, 8:25am
So who’s responsible if the offense regresses and players start to underperform?
ProvoSpain
Dec 1, 8:37am
Too many short plays running the ball up the middle.
Love My Cougs
Dec 1, 9:13am
RE: To many short plays running the ball up the middle.
SJS
Dec 1, 9:22am
Good OCs only call long running plays.
russkiejedi
Dec 1, 9:44am
Playing for third down conversions is a failing offense
chirocoug
Dec 1, 9:21am
You want Grimes? lol COVID year aside (both for schedule and because ARod was
chilawcoug
Dec 1, 9:34am
RE: Playing for third down conversions is a failing offense
longtimeYfan
Dec 1, 10:21am
If BYU wasn't ranked 115th out of 134 teams in third down conversion percentage
chirocoug
Dec 3, 2:48pm
What if I like arod but he frustrates me sometimes.
davidmj10
Dec 1, 10:13am
Defense won this. We will go back to barely-bowl eligible without Jay.
AltTabbins
Dec 1, 11:00am
This is a 4-6 win team with the defense we thought we were going to have
deliciousmocha
Dec 1, 11:57am
Offense averages 31 points a game which ranks 45 in the country. I’ll take 31
Nagurski
Dec 1, 12:11pm
What does their offense rank when you take out defensive and special teams TDs?
HRCougar
Dec 1, 2:02pm
BYU had 4 kick/punt returns this year which is amazing and 1 interception return
Nagurski
Dec 1, 3:35pm
Also, you have to take into account the short fields that defensive TOs
BigHouse Coug
Dec 1, 3:52pm
Then also factor in long drives and time of possession that helps the defense rest… 🙂
GoodBetterBestBYU
Dec 1, 5:40pm
Just stop. You are splitting hairs here trying to find any reason possible to
Nagurski
Dec 1, 9:18pm
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