Underselling the importance of established residency programs from an

Jul 29, 2024
10:52:00am

cougfanz All-American

educational standpoint

Byu has a huge uphill battle to get on the likes of even a tier 2/3 program like Utah when affiliated with a non-academic hospital system.

I’m sure BYU will ensure a high quality education with that said

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Utah’s medical school is probably the only group that doesn’t like this

RevolutionDeathsquad

Jul 29, 10:39am

Don't like Utah, but this is silly thinking. Utah's med school is a top school

TheRowdy

Jul 29, 10:44am

And it sounds like international students may get priority over local kids.

Hawk in the 303

Jul 29, 10:46am

Calling Utah a “Top Med School” is silly. More like a “good med school.” But you are correct BYU won’t overtake them

yapacoug

Jul 29, 12:29pm

This is true, their pretty good, but not as good as the locals in Salt lake

Blue chunks

Jul 29, 3:18pm

Utah's med school is not a "top school."

DrCougarHunter

Jul 29, 12:47pm

no worries, just misspeaking. I wasn't trying to say top 10, top 20, etc.

TheRowdy

Jul 29, 1:04pm

People in Utah have a problem with overrating Utah’s med school.

bluebrotha

Jul 29, 6:37pm

Mediocre to good. It isn’t a very good school only good.

jvquarterback

Jul 29, 7:18pm

Would Rice be considered in that rarified air?

Diablo and Doc

Jul 29, 1:33pm

Rice doesn’t have a med school.

yapacoug

Jul 29, 3:28pm

Bet it does within 10 yrs. And this will amp up their hatred of BYU. Mark it

BleedCougarBlue2

Jul 29, 1:09pm

Exactly. The only part that is true is that byu will accept some people Utah

ColonelMustard

Jul 29, 1:21pm

BYU will surpass Utah in the quality of med students in only a few years if, and that is a big if, BYU accepts similar

Littlerich

Jul 29, 3:38pm

Meant to be a reply to rowdy

Littlerich

Jul 29, 3:38pm

Agree. I think BYU will have better students from day 1 if they don’t overthink

cougfanz

Jul 29, 3:55pm

Losing the score on step 1 will hurt at the beginning as I feel BYU students would do well on step 1 which would show

Littlerich

Jul 29, 7:28pm

Agree

cougfanz

Jul 29, 7:45pm

Utah is a respectable but not spectacular medical school compared to its

Gentleman Stan

Jul 29, 3:00pm

Idk. Utah is pretty well respected in most of the east coast med circles I’ve

Resurgens

Jul 29, 3:58pm

Utah is over-respected by Utahns because they don’t accept a lot of crazy smart

stoils

Jul 29, 4:34pm

Also BYU will be doing this without their own hospital.

davidmj10

Jul 29, 3:49pm

Agreed. I started laughing right off the bat. Some people

bookofdaniel

Jul 29, 3:54pm

Yeah, dumb take on your part..

Fin4Evr

Jul 29, 6:16pm

So I think it will be self selecting like it is for the law school

LPcoug

Jul 29, 10:50am

Just the opposite. The announcement said that research will be a large component

Everyman

Jul 29, 10:51am

Underselling the importance of established residency programs from an

cougfanz

Jul 29, 10:52am

This is correct. It would be relatively easy for BYU to start a med school that runs like many DO schools where you

yapacoug

Jul 29, 12:43pm

My guess is they’ll use Utah Valley as their base hospital and core 3rd/4th year

Delicate Genius

Jul 29, 1:22pm

UVH just lost most of their Peds. No PICU, Peds Surgeon, or most subspecialties. Large and active NICU, but everything

Yllage Vidiot

Jul 29, 5:07pm

BYU will heavily influence that hospital now I bet.

EDthoracotomy

Jul 29, 9:13pm

This will be huge. UVH will have to expand.

EDthoracotomy

Jul 29, 1:31pm

Announcement specifically mentions collaboration with U of U medical school

NYC and Japan

Jul 29, 12:53pm

My hope is that it, at least, gets Utah to be a bit less

CougarLegend

Jul 29, 4:21pm

I don’t think it will mind. I think BYU’s medical school will be another collaborating partner for it.

runningryan

Jul 29, 1:40pm

Don’t think it is a competition thing given the article says they will be

Dat_rmishner

Jul 29, 1:59pm

Unlike sports, this is not a rivalry. It is a cooperation between two

rockyrd

Jul 29, 4:05pm

99% of the academic faculty at the UU SOM and the likes will not view it like

cougfanz

Jul 29, 4:16pm

Noorda DO school is probably not very happy

hunkahunka

Jul 29, 4:08pm

Especially because it was told by BYU that BYU had no plans for a medical school

HenderCoug

Jul 29, 4:36pm

Infrastructure and faculty are going to take a long time to build.

BYU2ATM

Jul 29, 4:52pm

Spot on.

cougfanz

Jul 29, 4:57pm

The issues you mention affect residencies more than medical schools (I know they are one and the same in most cases).

Yllage Vidiot

Jul 29, 5:13pm

The reality is med school serves two purposes. One is

cougfanz

Jul 29, 5:36pm

Who cares. It's a good thing to have two good medical schools in this state.

ImaFBfan

Jul 29, 5:32pm

I'll bet BYU med students will know the difference between men and women

baldcoug74

Jul 29, 7:54pm

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