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Jul 18, 2024
12:48:29pm

Threw and Through 3rd String

So you're declining to answer the question. Whom else could he afford? "Up

and coming coaches" doesn't equate with affordable coaches on BYU's then-limited budget. And in fact, if "you're up and coming," but you're still an OL coach, who's going to identify you as a sure-thing hire who'll also be affordable and willing to move to Provo? In BYU's case, when we lost Jeff Grimes, Pugh and Matteos in quick succession, do you think that helped selecting a new OL coach easier?

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Threw and Through

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I'm not one to be highly critical of KS as a coach, but the KSL article

EM_Puma

Jul 18, 11:33am

I just don't think Sitake is into details.

BlueFever

Jul 18, 11:37am

HCs cannot micromanage every aspect of a football team. They have to rely on their staff for their expertise too. Funk

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 11:47am

Who's decision was it to hire Funk? Kalani as HC should absolutely have a say if

CameronG

Jul 18, 11:49am

Tell me who Kalani had to choose from when he hired Funk. Then, tell me which of those candidates you would

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 12:02pm

This is the question CB consistently refuses to ask itself

Jul 18, 12:12pm

How is CB supposed to answer that question when they weren't in the room? But I

ldssdl

Jul 18, 12:17pm

So you're declining to answer the question. Whom else could he afford? "Up

Threw and Through

Jul 18, 12:48pm

Excuses for incompetence do not get things done or elevate a program.

ldssdl

Jul 18, 12:51pm

So you're saying that Funk was the absolute best OL coach we could afford?

tacallaway

Jul 18, 1:29pm

Prove that he wasn't. We'll wait.

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 2:18pm

I don't know otherwise, I'm honestly just curious if that is your assertion.

tacallaway

Jul 18, 2:27pm

My position is that just maybe he was the best option available at the time. You've never had to hire anyone I take it.

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 2:32pm

But weren't you just asking for people to name someone better?

tacallaway

Jul 18, 2:48pm

Did you give me any names?

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:18pm

"It's not like Kalani has unlimited time or resources to scour the country"

tacallaway

Jul 18, 3:28pm

My position is that I have NO IDEA and neither do YOU so quit acting like you do. I'm just more willing to

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:49pm

Family Search

44C

Jul 18, 8:26pm

And sometimes you hire what appeared to be a good, even great candidate and

NYC and Japan

Jul 19, 7:38am

Except no one thought that when he was hired except apparently you, and KS.

Alan Schaefer

Jul 19, 8:40am

Based on some of his hires maybe Kalani should spend more time in evaluating

CameronG

Jul 18, 2:48pm

Happens to every HC. Happened to LaVell and Bronco both. Happened to kwhitt too.

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:19pm

Demonstrably false.

Love Cougs

Jul 18, 3:22pm

Prove it.

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:24pm

Is incredible how many excuses Sitake has accumulated in 8 years. And how many

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 3:26pm

There's plenty of history that Kalani's isn't the best at recruiting.

greatbam

Jul 18, 6:00pm

This year wasn’t “as horrible” Bam. Clearly that means you’re wrong. And if you

Alan Schaefer

Jul 19, 4:46am

Eee gads dude. Get a grip.

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 3:23pm

"Eee gads"? What are you 90 yrs old? Feel free to contribute something ... anything relevant.

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:26pm

Golly Gee! See here young whipper snapper!

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 4:17pm

Prove that he was. We could afford Grimes and other better OL coaches in the...

Les IsMore

Jul 18, 9:30pm

Prove to me that he was, we will wait.

Jul 19, 7:46am

Pugh got a promotion, Grimes kinda did as well and Mateos went with Grimes

CameronG

Jul 18, 2:46pm

Who applied? Got a list?

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:27pm

No one needs to give you a list. Quit demanding things. The Oline was crap. It

GfB

Jul 18, 3:31pm

and Funk got fired. What more do you want? Burn him at the stake? Some are suggesting Kalani should have hired someone

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:48pm

What most are suggesting is another piece to a puzzle of an average at best HC.

GfB

Jul 18, 7:27pm

Check the user name…

NYC and Japan

Jul 19, 7:41am

There probably are but when you just look at Funk's work history and the guys he's coached that went on to

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 2:14pm

I have no idea who was available at the time.

BlueFever

Jul 18, 12:44pm

Maybe but basketball is a whole lot easier to do that than football is.

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 2:15pm

Funk's resume signaled he was a bad hire. CB geniuses told me how clueless I

Forzaitalia

Jul 18, 1:43pm

RE: Funk's resume signaled he was a bad hire. CB geniuses told me how clueless I

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 2:17pm

Maybe it's a bit nitpicky but he really hasn't been promoted to OC at any point

CameronG

Jul 18, 2:53pm

Did you skip over the list of players he's coached? Look I'm not defending Funk at all. Sure in retrospect there are

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:24pm

I don't blame them as much for hiring him because not all hires work out but I

CameronG

Jul 18, 3:37pm

kwhitt didn't always move on after just one year. Also, having a unit no perform up to expectations could be due to

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 3:52pm

Bingo. Nothing special journeyman from the outset. Plateaued years earlier.

Forzaitalia

Jul 18, 4:21pm

You and that Fiero guy might be the biggest KS shills on the planet.

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 3:22pm

Who? That's Kalani's responsibility. Not cougarboard. The buck

gopman

Jul 18, 7:31pm

So there was no one to choose except Funk.

rmarkerm

Jul 18, 7:49pm

You clearly missed this post. This will make you feel better.

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 3:25pm

Kalani wasn't given the budget to hire anyone good. Funk took a paycut to come

Zombre

Jul 18, 3:49pm

BYU is a cheap football program and it gets what it pays for then plain and

CameronG

Jul 18, 4:13pm

I’d like to know exactly how much Sitake is paid. And how is ranks in all P5.

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 4:18pm

You scour the FCS/G5 ranks for an ambitious-driven young coach instead

gopman

Jul 18, 7:45pm

What pay cut? Funk was unemployed the year prior to BYU hiring him.

Les IsMore

Jul 18, 9:37pm

If it doesn't fall on Sitake, would you say it falls on ARod?

tacallaway

Jul 18, 12:08pm

Arod is first and foremost as he is the direct superior to funk. But when the

Powerbait DPM

Jul 18, 2:12pm

They wait until the wheels come completely off before making a change.

CameronG

Jul 18, 2:56pm

Seems like they wait for the wheels to come off and for the end of the season to

Powerbait DPM

Jul 18, 3:06pm

It's the head coach's job to vet the candidates.

BlueFever

Jul 18, 12:11pm

It was clear Funk was a journeyman at the end of his career to anybody paying

Forzaitalia

Jul 18, 1:46pm

But did they ever wonder if he'd suck that bad?

BlueFever

Jul 18, 3:08pm

It's not micromanaging for the leader in charge to ensure high job performance

ldssdl

Jul 18, 12:16pm

Ensuring your coaches are capable is not micromanaging. Sheesh.

LateToTheGame

Jul 18, 2:30pm

Funk has never been an overwhelming success. He's jumped around his whole career and not to great teams

BYU Grounds

Jul 18, 3:27pm

Sitake Defenders Alliance:

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 3:28pm

Interesting that Kalani is not into details, whereas his idol, LaVell Edwards,

Jul 18, 12:51pm

In my opinion the only thing separating KS from LaVell

theonick

Jul 18, 2:38pm

I wonder if Lavell knew the Timeout rules by his 8th season…

Alan Schaefer

Jul 18, 4:19pm

The puzzling thing is that the Oline did well the previous year and I think was

byusage

Jul 18, 11:38am

incorrect conclusion. Those lineman that did well were taught by Grimes. Funk

claw

Jul 18, 11:42am

Nope, the pre-Funk linemen were taught by Matteos.

Threw and Through

Jul 18, 12:55pm

That’s because Kalani has had sufficient time to watch the video from the season before

Blue2thebone

Jul 18, 2:43pm

Kalani's been oblivious since his hire in 2016. He's a "figurehead" &

gopman

Jul 18, 11:39am

In 2021 PFF run blocking was #9. In 2022 #12. Then it fell off a cliff.

molodyets

Jul 18, 11:39am

I don't understand why this is so hard for some fans to understand.

Jul 18, 11:49am

RE: I'm not one to be highly critical of KS as a coach, but the KSL article

claw

Jul 18, 11:41am

Bronco (and many other coaches) did the same thing with Weber as our OL coach. Have you never been in an organization

ManicBlue

Jul 18, 11:43am

just a lazy lazy hire.

claw

Jul 18, 11:45am

I'm not behind the firing of KS at all. I like him, but his delay on getting

EM_Puma

Jul 18, 11:48am

What delay was there? He was fired after one bad season.

molodyets

Jul 18, 12:08pm

ARod should be all over that before KS. And then KS should be all over it too.

Cougforgood

Jul 18, 11:46am

Good point.

EM_Puma

Jul 18, 11:49am

Yep. People act like the HC is a CEO in an office on the other side of the world

DirtyWater

Jul 18, 11:52am

He probably understood full well what was going wrong. It's just very difficult to make big changes mid-season. Kalani

CalGTR

Jul 18, 11:54am

It isn’t hard. Just a few phone calls. Same as in the offseason.

DirtyWater

Jul 18, 12:00pm

No, position coaches do not get fired mid season. Coordinators and HC do.

molodyets

Jul 18, 12:09pm

Okay. Then reassign him.

DirtyWater

Jul 18, 12:13pm

"Hey Funk, you're no longer coaching the o-line. We're now going to have you

Jul 18, 12:49pm

You’re right. CFB position coaches are the one job that can’t be moved or else

DirtyWater

Jul 18, 10:46pm

I would love to know how much Woods is getting paid compared

BYURider

Jul 18, 12:04pm

Over and over and over...KS is not the guy. How many times does it take?

LateToTheGame

Jul 18, 2:31pm

Add this to The long list of things that evidence suggests our head coach is unaware of

Blue2thebone

Jul 18, 2:39pm

The list is long and distinguished

44C

Jul 18, 7:49pm

He knew, but didn't want to fire him until the end of the season

tamasiaina

Jul 18, 4:05pm

Precisely

I'mBatman

Jul 18, 7:13pm

Wow. This thread took on a life of its own

TNT

Jul 18, 4:37pm

RE: Wow. This thread took on a life of its own

44C

Jul 18, 8:23pm

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