have you read the Kavanaugh concurrence in the Alston decision? It was

Nov 30, 2023
10:48:36am

cwilke1 Truly Addicted User

absolutely based in morality and not on hypertechnical stuff.

The NCAA was not the good guy in that case. Amazing that some of you folks think the NCAA are the good guys here.

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The Coastal Carolina NIL collective is shutting down... I'm going to guess this is just the start..

TheLost Parody account

11/30/23 9:07am

I think people will get tired of self funding arthritic department player

A Drew Aitch

11/30/23 9:10am

RE: I think people will get tired of self funding arthritic department player

CharlottesvilleCoug

11/30/23 9:35am

At this point that might be for the best. Dont think voters would be happy if

Longseason

11/30/23 9:36am

Arthritic is a good description of the whole NIL fiasco.

Mitty

11/30/23 9:43am

Schools probably funnel money to the collectives via some back door already

ColonelMustard

11/30/23 12:52pm

Guaranteed. Imagine an SEC school building a $100 million facility, getting bids

dYrtbYkerYder

11/30/23 1:04pm

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flyonawall

11/30/23 1:06pm

RE: The Coastal Carolina NIL collective is shutting down... I'm going to guess this is just the start..

letthewookieewin

11/30/23 9:11am

What do you mean? Collectives are just getting started. Why do you think a small school's data has anything to do with

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 9:12am

We should embrace and assist in the demise of all NIL related organizations and activities

2FarGone

11/30/23 9:15am

College football has been ruined for decades because Alabama boosters, Ohio St boosters, MI boosters etc pay their

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 9:22am

I’m not convinced our ownership will ever allow BYU to compete in that way to

Bluforever

11/30/23 9:27am

Our ownership has zero control over NIL. They can't stop us from paying the players.

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 9:50am

Oh yes they can.

Bluforever

11/30/23 9:58am

How?

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 10:03am

they can stop players from getting money from beer company or gambling company.

cwilke1

11/30/23 10:04am

Who’s the we? I’m not going to start giving money to players are you?

EMAC

11/30/23 9:29am

Of course I have and I'll continue to do so. Why wouldn't I?

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 9:51am

There are ~130 FBS teams.. only a small % can support a true collective for NIL.

TheLost

11/30/23 9:22am

That small % are the power brokers and decision makers of college sports and are happy to see other competitors drop out

Cougs1

11/30/23 2:41pm

The racket has just begun, agreed

CorndogStickshift

11/30/23 11:37am

Why would you donate so a 20 year old can make more than you and drive a nicer

Utefaninenemyland

11/30/23 9:17am

1. They are shortening their lives playing a violent game for our enjoyment. 2.

ALUF 1990

11/30/23 9:24am

I played football and every other sport for my own enjoyment not anyone else’s.

Utefaninenemyland

11/30/23 9:39am

I rarely agree with Utah fans but you nailed everything in both of your comments

CameronG

11/30/23 9:46am

You sir, think like a true blue cougar. I think you should reconsider your

Bovine University

11/30/23 10:22am

When you put it that way, we shouldn't be supporting it at all.

Great38

11/30/23 9:47am

Super gross comment. But insightful to how yewts might think.

Mjolnir

11/30/23 1:22pm

If they don’t enjoy, surely they should do something else. Everything is a con

CorndogStickshift

11/30/23 11:47am

This yewt speaks wisdom

Mitty

11/30/23 9:44am

Well said! Who wrote that for you?

thirdgencoug

11/30/23 11:04am

Because every other school is doing it, and if you don’t, you will fall behind.

LeGrandBleu

11/30/23 11:10am

You would donate an amount you can afford because you want more wins. And you realize that if everyone else had $100

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 11:17am

I make $15/hr so no donating from me. As much as I love sports, the idea that

BaseCoug

11/30/23 11:39am

"with no return" isn't accurate. Sure there is no cash back but no one thinks there should be. If you had millions to

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 12:36pm

Agree... your "return" is your satisfaction level in the teams results

Das_Countach

11/30/23 1:07pm

Exactly. We need to get more $$$ into the collective. They are doing amazing things. They have millions

HarlemCoug

11/30/23 1:20pm

They are counting on the people who just funded a $76M buyout on a coach

stansburycoug

11/30/23 12:55pm

Because when you buy a ticket to Arsenal, or the Angels, or Ducks they are…

BYU'01

11/30/23 3:02pm

If Universities can make millions of dollars, the kids should get a cut.

rtNelson

12/1/23 1:19am

Collective/NIL feel very different than Cougar Club, etc., to me.

Madam Pattirini

11/30/23 9:18am

Collectives should come with strings attached. Like you can get a player to show

ryebrye

11/30/23 9:29am

Wasn't the idea that players could promote goods and businesses?

Madam Pattirini

11/30/23 9:38am

Agree with this. Without BYU (or any university) their name, image, and likeness

Lcoug

11/30/23 10:59am

Exactly, let's see how valuable they are playing in the XFL or USFL

CameronG

11/30/23 11:04am

The biggest part of the whole NIL thing everyone loves to forget.

Mitty

11/30/23 5:31pm

The lack of loyalty from the players is not what college fans are used to.

SinkingQuffa

11/30/23 9:20am

^ The portal will destroy the idea of Player Alumni and any tradition/history.

TheLost

11/30/23 9:25am

Good point. Be interesting — & probably sad — what it survives as in 25 years.

SinkingQuffa

11/30/23 9:26am

I think many are done with school as soon as the season is over. Not all but

Bluforever

11/30/23 9:29am

like the supreme court decision said, people being accustomed to a certain way

cwilke1

11/30/23 9:45am

So by not not paying into NIL we are trying to "stop it" and thus are immoral?

MrSandman

11/30/23 10:09am

sorry about your reading struggles. that's not what my post said. if someone

cwilke1

11/30/23 10:19am

maybe not said, but definitely insinuated. Nice try though

MrSandman

11/30/23 10:23am

I have no problem with NIL, I have a problem with pay for play

CameronG

11/30/23 10:59am

Yup, and the way NIL is set up and unregulated... it's just pay for play

Mitty

11/30/23 5:32pm

The old system was "immoral"? Compared to what? The NBA????

SinkingQuffa

11/30/23 10:20am

what industry do you work in? immoral compared to your industry which I'm

cwilke1

11/30/23 10:36am

The payroll & driving forces behind college athletics are very complicated.

SinkingQuffa

11/30/23 10:43am

have you read the Kavanaugh concurrence in the Alston decision? It was

cwilke1

11/30/23 10:48am

So the idea of competitive, amateur competition as an auxiliary part of American

SinkingQuffa

11/30/23 11:02am

you can go back 100 years and there are articles about under the table payments

cwilke1

11/30/23 11:35am

No system's perfect.

SinkingQuffa

11/30/23 11:59am

This all sounds like…

flyonawall

11/30/23 1:07pm

I have no problem with NIL as it was rightfully intended, but without regulation

Buster Scruggs

11/30/23 11:10am

Baloney. Nothing immoral or illegal about amateur sports.

Les IsMore

11/30/23 12:22pm

sounds like you got your cases mixed up. maybe you're talking about the Obannon

cwilke1

11/30/23 12:37pm

Not mixed up at all.

Les IsMore

11/30/23 3:14pm

the true farce is the million dollar salaries that the coaches and conference

cwilke1

11/30/23 3:26pm

Immoral? Perhaps we all need a refresher on what that word means.

LifeLongLakerFan

11/30/23 5:51pm

I’d be ok with that school burning to the ground so 🤷‍♂️

RevolutionDeathsquad

11/30/23 9:22am

The NIL is a terrible ROI proposition. For a small minority of programs, they may not care, but the current prices for

Indy Coug

11/30/23 9:24am

Small programs will have similar issues.

Everyman

11/30/23 9:33am

"Blue-Blood collectives will not have any difficulty."

lilpenny

11/30/23 10:34am

This is good news. All of them should shut down.

Mitty

11/30/23 9:42am

Businesses will just have to reach out to players (or their agents) if they want

Great38

11/30/23 9:50am

CFB needs a middle division between FCS and FBS.

dYrtbYkerYder

11/30/23 10:54am

NIL isn’t going away - adapt or die

CallingDingo

11/30/23 11:02am

It will settle in at much lower than gold rush rates we’ve seen. There just isn’t the market for this many professional

carmelcougar

11/30/23 12:24pm

Eventually an efficient market will develop

CallingDingo

11/30/23 1:21pm

Teams paying players is not NIL

TSTTKB

11/30/23 4:24pm

My guess: They couldn't find enough players to hit QBs when they were down.

DazeofBlue

11/30/23 11:46am

Do I want my money to go to the school or to the player. I'm fine splitting...

Big-Q

11/30/23 11:51am

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