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Dec 22, 2020
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ManicBlue
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It's not hard to look them up.
Our starting field position for the CC games was 73.3 (which would rank us #114 for the game) and for SDSU, it was 77.6 (dead last by almost a full yd).
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BYU's weakness:
Hawk Talons
12/21/20 1:38pm
UCF doesn't eat up tons of clock. They are the fastest tempo offense in the nation
Indy Coug
12/21/20 1:40pm
That's a good thing for us.
HighHorse
12/21/20 1:45pm
Tuiaki: "Hold my diet coke."
slowhiteguy
12/21/20 2:47pm
This made me laugh out loud.
jessedwilliams
12/21/20 7:11pm
Honestly, I feel like SDSU got several very lucky 3rd down conversions where the
dYrtbYkerYder
12/21/20 1:45pm
SDSU seems to always have good receivers.
Hawk Talons
12/21/20 1:47pm
There were some truly amazing catches by SDSU receivers in that game.
BYUtka
12/21/20 1:52pm
Their tight end made a couple of spectacular catches laying out for the ball
BlueBlitzkrieg
12/21/20 1:58pm
Yes, but I think Rex's TD catch one up'ed him. 😃
Ungoy
12/21/20 2:40pm
If anything BYU got lucky
HairyCougar
12/21/20 2:01pm
Not sure if you understand the brilliance of the Tuiaki defense. SDSU did
BYUlv
12/21/20 2:21pm
And we complain about our coaches. Such a simple concept.
Y05
12/21/20 2:44pm
His defense banks on the other team making a mistake. If they run enough plays
Powerbait DPM
12/21/20 2:52pm
Unless they don't...
cougaman
12/21/20 4:37pm
SDSU's anemic offense with a scrub...maybe. Any decent offense?
HairyCougar
12/21/20 4:40pm
Which is such a moronic concept. More plays = more good plays, too
reddead
12/21/20 4:57pm
The Show? Is that you?
Little Mac
12/21/20 11:01pm
Your signature is pretty awesome.
bob falfa
12/21/20 3:02pm
Have always loved that video. Funny how the yellow shirts leave the poor guy
CT98
12/21/20 9:33pm
While this is true
I'mBatman
12/21/20 4:34pm
No, we gave them 3rd downs with the 3 man rush. All day to pass.
oldrugger
12/21/20 5:42pm
Feels like BYU defense is destined to give up unlikely 3rd down conversions
djbryant79
12/21/20 8:36pm
I think the d players went to Sitaki and asked how can we spend more time on
bald man
12/21/20 1:49pm
BYU's defensive weakness is that when the opposing offense plays mistake free,
ldssdl
12/21/20 1:54pm
Didn’t we have 11 or 12 offensive possessions against CC?
LyleLanley
12/21/20 2:01pm
BYU had 11 possessions. They average 11.5 possessions per game in 2020.
Indy Coug
12/21/20 2:03pm
This is another stupid stat. As soon as you're up 3 TD's you want to shorten
rcbyufan
12/21/20 2:40pm
BYU's offensive impotence was the biggest problem that game. They had plenty of chances and squandered most of them
Indy Coug
12/21/20 3:02pm
Wrong. D getting trucked by the same lame running play was the biggest problem.
shammy
12/21/20 3:12pm
Wrong. The offense was to blame.
LyleLanley
12/21/20 3:53pm
Incorrect. D getting repeatedly blown up on simple run plays was to blame.
shammy
12/21/20 5:07pm
Wrong. The offense squandering possessions was at fault.
LyleLanley
12/21/20 5:13pm
I just want to go on record (again) that I'm not trying to deflect blame from
rcbyufan
12/21/20 5:24pm
The O is the reason we lost that game. Number of possessions excuse for the O is false and a red herring:
mvtoro
12/21/20 8:24pm
The offense played bad. They're the reason we lost. But that doesn't mean the D
rcbyufan
12/21/20 8:39pm
Thank you for your pity. My neurologist and I are still working on the "two thoughts in the... what was I saying?
mvtoro
12/22/20 3:31pm
False. The D failing to stop CCU’s main run play was the issue.
shammy
12/21/20 8:23pm
D held them to 22 points. Including 3 gifted by the offense on a turnover. Did enough to win. Offense had 11 drives and
mvtoro
12/21/20 8:26pm
22 points against 4 total plays run is the problem. The O choked but the D
Ash
12/21/20 8:30pm
True. The D didn’t rescue the offense. But it shouldn’t have had to. Everyone here says our offense is better than our D
mvtoro
12/21/20 8:40pm
Your crusade to make sure everybody is aware of the poor performance of our O
rcbyufan
12/21/20 8:47pm
And yet the exact comments I’m responding to are people saying it was the defense that lost the game as opposed to the o
mvtoro
12/21/20 9:15pm
This is clearly false on cougar board. Almost as clear as how well the d played
I'm Dynamite
12/27/20 5:00am
The reason this is even a discussion is because the O excelled in just about
Ash
12/21/20 8:51pm
Our defense played better against CCU than the O. "Not debatable." The fact that the Offense, as you said, has usually
mvtoro
12/22/20 3:29pm
It wasn't simple
Z-Ute
12/21/20 7:42pm
Some simple adjustments. Stop playing safeties 40yds deep against a QB
shammy
12/21/20 8:21pm
Agreed. The offense played horribly. No doubt about it.
rcbyufan
12/21/20 3:22pm
Again, short week
Z-Ute
12/21/20 3:42pm
I don't know how anyone could watch that game and not think they were the
rcbyufan
12/21/20 3:45pm
No question BYU could beat CCU
Z-Ute
12/21/20 7:34pm
Watching the Utah game on Saturday brought this home. Their D locked up
Ash
12/21/20 4:16pm
Only because of short notice
Z-Ute
12/21/20 3:39pm
2 desperation drives at the end of halves
HairyCougar
12/21/20 2:03pm
Okay so 9 drives 17 points. Interesting
LyleLanley
12/21/20 2:07pm
Penalties and dumb play calls killed at least 4 drives of ours
bad84cougar
12/21/20 4:34pm
Their guys slip at the one and Tuiaki is a brilliant DC. Our guys commit a
HairyCougar
12/21/20 4:38pm
BYU averaged less than 2 points per drive for their other 9 drives. That ain't getting it done against anyone
Indy Coug
12/21/20 2:07pm
FIELD POSITION
HairyCougar
12/21/20 4:27pm
This has been addressed already
-C9-
12/21/20 5:57pm
We have had horrible field position all year.
LyleLanley
12/21/20 2:07pm
We rank 93rd in average starting field position.
ManicBlue
12/21/20 3:06pm
Link?
Indy Coug
12/21/20 3:10pm
RE: Link?
ManicBlue
12/21/20 3:12pm
Looks like we have a net field position of 1.2. This puts us at average.
I'm Dynamite
12/21/20 8:44pm
Huh?
ManicBlue
12/22/20 2:45am
Ah, so the D gives the O 71.9 (#93). For ref: 69.0 (#25), 67.0 (#10).
I'm Dynamite
12/22/20 10:26am
Check our starting field position against the best 2 defenses we faced this year
ManicBlue
12/22/20 11:46am
I mean, I appreciate it for measurable effects. I am frustrated watching it.
I'm Dynamite
12/22/20 11:50am
RE: I mean, I appreciate it for measurable effects. I am frustrated watching it.
ManicBlue
12/22/20 12:02pm
These effects are measurable. I need numbers. I gave some, too.
I'm Dynamite
12/22/20 12:06pm
It's not hard to look them up.
ManicBlue
12/22/20 12:36pm
That's just a few yards of bend though. See my post here:
I'm Dynamite
12/22/20 12:40pm
RE: That's just a few yards of bend though. See my post here:
ManicBlue
12/22/20 2:40pm
I didn't. Got a link?
I'm Dynamite
12/22/20 2:44pm
The offense started an average of 73.3 yards away vs CCU, versus their season average of 71.9
Indy Coug
12/22/20 2:59pm
I think Allgeier got hurt in the 2nd half, too.
I'm Dynamite
12/22/20 3:04pm
Drive by drive starting field position:
Corn Pop
12/21/20 2:29pm
Agreed
Indy Coug
12/21/20 2:34pm
Huge coaching mistake on our second to last drive to punt the ball with less
ManicBlue
12/21/20 3:29pm
Totally agree
LyleLanley
12/21/20 3:55pm
That had more to do with our running game being non-existent and how they controlled the LOS.
-C9-
12/21/20 6:06pm
Hidden key point: Defense stiffens up near the goal line. I figure that is
mudpupper
12/21/20 2:33pm
its true. You can't have your LBs standing 20 yards deep from the goal line
shammy
12/21/20 5:09pm
In a bend don't break, you stiffen up the further in they get. Normal design.
I'm Dynamite
12/21/20 8:45pm
How about having the DL shift before the snap or switch the D look before snap?
scott715
12/21/20 5:17pm
Same thing with UTSA. Didn't they have a 20 play drive taking 10+ minutes?
oldrugger
12/21/20 5:41pm
Need more from the defense if we’re going to do well next year, but BYU’s loss this year was on the offense:
mvtoro
12/21/20 8:33pm
How is this a weakness?
niqmadu
12/22/20 7:17am
The problem is until this season our offense
Ash
12/22/20 7:53am
Why do you need to change the defense??
niqmadu
12/22/20 9:47am
Because the D doesn't work against competent teams. That's why. We played 2
Ash
12/22/20 10:42am
I worry the offense won't work against great defenses, too. Both will need to
I'm Dynamite
12/22/20 10:46am
don't worry, as long as we can throw water in one corner of the field and let it
southprovocougar
12/22/20 12:14pm
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