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Sep 20, 2024
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joelvandyne

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Joined: Jun 16, 2015
Last login: Sep 20, 2024
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POLL: Do you believe there is an ethical obligation for exempt (salaried) employees to do actual work for a certain number of hours per week?

Nikomedes

11:46am

RE: POLL: Do you believe there is an ethical obligation for exempt (salaried)

maxpowers

11:49am

Meant for OP - For those that vote yes, do you also believe that you should get

BYU-Ite

11:52am

It's amazing how oblivious so many employees are to their own greed. They have convinced themselves that they aren't

HarlemCoug

11:52am

How about when you have extra work that week? Do you get paid extra?

OrsoNero

11:57am

You get to decide who the greedy one is in your life. Employees who think that they don't need to work while at work are

HarlemCoug

12:05pm

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

OrsoNero

12:15pm

Who says this "You're salaried. We're giving you a task to accomplish, rather than hours you need to have your butt in

HarlemCoug

12:18pm

That's EXACTLY what's implied whenever you have to work extra, unpaid hours.

OrsoNero

12:22pm

"Implied"??? Your work contract with your employer isn't valid because there are implied rules that trump the contract?

HarlemCoug

12:27pm

The contract doesn't say 40 hours a week. That's the point.

OrsoNero

12:34pm

Your greed seems limitless.

HarlemCoug

12:36pm

I work for myself and set my own rates.

OrsoNero

12:43pm

LOLOL

Himni

12:48pm

"Greed is good" - Ayn Rand

joelvandyne

1:01pm

Ayn Rand is wrong. I've never agreed with her.

HarlemCoug

1:02pm

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yahtzee

3:26pm

Exactly. Can’t eat your cake and have it too. There are weeks I work well more

ldssdl

12:35pm

If i work 80 hours one week, and 38 the next, I am a greedy SOB apparently

yahtzee

3:42pm

My boss: 'This isn't a 40 hour/week job, as long as the work gets done"

BYUFootballisBack

12:23pm

No doubt this exists at some companies. What percent of salaried employees do you think have the same deal?

HarlemCoug

12:28pm

Yep tiny company, so it would be painfully obvious if I wasn't pulling my weight

BYUFootballisBack

12:30pm

and then there is the flip side and how you count your hours... I had one job I

ChinaFan

12:49pm

I will gladly switch to hourly

canuckchuck

12:39pm

How do you define what is considered "the job"

AllHailTheOverlord

1:17pm

If that's how you measure "greed," then don't be surprised when salaried W-2s

ebv

1:59pm

This is why 32 hour work weeks should be at least trialed in most places

Longseason

12:12pm

Did nothing really change? The stock has cratered.

OrsoNero

12:17pm

Are trying to make a political point? I trust his business sense over yours

Longseason

12:24pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My business hasn't lost 90% of its value over the last few years.

OrsoNero

12:27pm

What evidence do you have that X is worth less today than it was when Musk bought it? Note that no one debates that the

HarlemCoug

12:35pm

Elon Musk himself valued the company at just $4 billion.

OrsoNero

12:38pm

What does this have to do with current valuations? Facebook/Meta was valued at $90/share in Nov 22. It's $562 price

HarlemCoug

12:44pm

September 3: “Elon’s done a tremendous amount of wealth destruction"

OrsoNero

12:46pm

You're kidding right? Tell me you know nothing about Gerber without telling me you know nothing about Gerber. I've

HarlemCoug

12:53pm

ps - it would also help if you could explain why Facebook/Meta's stock has gone from $90 to $560 since Nov 2022 and you

HarlemCoug

12:57pm

Lots changed. The bots are worse than ever and boosting the replies of anyone

joelvandyne

1:07pm

And yet the total number of users and the total minutes of engagement are both at all time highs. Isn't that data more

HarlemCoug

1:10pm

Unsubstantiated claims from a guy with a personal stake in the company. I don't

joelvandyne

1:17pm

The usage and subscriber data isn't provided by Musk/X, so I'm not sure what you mean here.

HarlemCoug

1:23pm

It is.

joelvandyne

1:31pm

I don't understand. Is your claim that Musk owns Statista, Senor Tower, Apptopia, Hootsuite, etc? He owns all of them?

HarlemCoug

1:48pm

People keep using Twitter/X as an example, but Tech is it's own special flower

Dataguy

12:37pm

Absolutely if you're getting your work done, hours don't matter ... however,

j-woot

12:27pm

Presence doesn’t equal productivity

arizonacougarfan

12:29pm

Depends. Will my employer not give me additional tasks to do beyond the 40 hrs?

runnincoug

12:38pm

There are a lot of really bad takes on this

Himni

12:43pm

My first salaried position meeting with HR, they explained to me that salary was

pegushin

1:02pm

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