Demin is great in the open cour. Hall is much better in the half court and with

Mar 25, 2025
10:50:55pm

johnnybyu Truly Addicted User

Pressure. When there is lots of pressure we have to play Hall. People then blame Hall that the offense is slow but that is because we are playing better defenses. Demin can’t handle the pressure against those defenses.

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BYU's conundrum in the Portal

kimdaddy35 Nicer In Real Life

Mar 25, 2:59pm

I think BYU will bring in competition for the assumed starters

LosAlcoug

Mar 25, 3:01pm

I think so too. Young and co have ambitions for the final 4 and beyond.

APowerfulY

Mar 25, 5:01pm

that is also the nba model

bald man

Mar 25, 5:13pm

It’s not on byu most high transfers aren’t going to a place without a guaranteed

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:29pm

I think that BYU playing a deep bench can be a good selling point

BYU Fan

Mar 25, 3:01pm

I agree. A deep rotation also lightens the strain on player's bodies.

WVU_Prof

Mar 25, 5:58pm

Not sure that Hall will start if we pick up a better PG. Hall is good, not great.

byujacob

Mar 25, 3:01pm

Hall is better than anyone we're likely to get in the portal. You don't replace

Trappist1F

Mar 25, 3:21pm

The UNM guy would be a better PG. He'll also be tough to get.

runnincoug

Mar 25, 3:41pm

He'd be a great addition, but I don't think we'll pay him what someone

Trappist1F

Mar 25, 3:51pm

I bet we would let Hall walk if we nail down an elite PG. We also need to bring

kotacoug

Mar 25, 4:06pm

That would be a big mistake as Hall as shown he can lead teams to wins at Kansas

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:42pm

Hot take, I guess: we don't need a scoring guard, we need a facilitator

scherbie

Mar 25, 3:53pm

How is Crawford developing? Could he fill this role?

lbmango

Mar 25, 7:30pm

Everyone assumed Hall would start last year too, until we got Demin.

OverratedHumor

Mar 25, 5:02pm

Hall has been the primary PG in crunch time and with pressure. Demin is great in

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:37pm

If Hall is a starter, he will be by far the weakest link. If we have aspirations for a deep tournament run, we will

KYU

Mar 25, 10:19pm

We aren’t going to get a high level scorer at pg. With AJ and Saunders we need

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:32pm

It is crazy that the portal opens before the games end. So stupid

BYUheaven

Mar 25, 3:01pm

Both FB and BB. It’s so dumb.

Resurgens

Mar 25, 9:21pm

Do we think Bosko will play mostly center or PF next year?

HoopDawg

Mar 25, 3:02pm

Some of both. He is a good guy to have who can play the 4 with another Center but also play the

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:13pm

Which is why it's silly that some think we're too good for Jake Wahlin

Jesse Pinkman

Mar 25, 3:02pm

? is do you think he actually would be content to come in on a reduced role?

Cougz19

Mar 25, 3:10pm

If Wahlin was on this years team, he'd struggle to average double digit minutes.

tacallaway

Mar 25, 3:19pm

he would be probably allocated Traore mins

Cougz19

Mar 25, 3:26pm

Why would he get Fouss' minutes when he wouldn't play Fouss' role?

tacallaway

Mar 25, 3:40pm

He would give us another mobile and versatile big which would allow us to play..

icecougar

Mar 25, 9:16pm

I love Bosko but Wahlin is a better shooter, defender and athlete with more

marinact

Mar 25, 4:30pm

Ummm a guy like him isn’t playing 15-20 min for us. Those are starters minutes

kotacoug

Mar 25, 4:07pm

I don't think it's so much that we're too good for him, as that we don't have the role

krindorr

Mar 25, 5:40pm

Every fish needs to choose its pond. 12 mpg winning championships is often

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 6:12pm

If you can play with AJ, why wouldn't you?

Sparkling Delirium

Mar 25, 3:04pm

Because you're not going to be 'the' guy

Jesse Pinkman

Mar 25, 3:06pm

I see it as a selling point. Example is Keita- took the starting point. Gets 50%

SBB

Mar 25, 3:04pm

The fact that KY plays 11 guys and many have improved their playing time and as

SanPedroCougar

Mar 25, 3:10pm

Waterman and Khalifa got $600k, not $1M.

Schultz is back

Mar 25, 4:05pm

Curious why the thumbs down...makes perfect sense to me.

Lifer

Mar 25, 3:04pm

I hate generally hate thumbs down without comment

SBB

Mar 25, 3:07pm

Hall should keep the same role as this year

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 25, 3:07pm

I tend to agree, but I don't think Hall stays if that is what he thinks will happen. If BYU brings in a top

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:14pm

If so, so be it. Can't mess up the AJ year by getting sentimental.

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 25, 3:17pm

I agree if you have a no brainer upgrade like Donovan Dent then you take it. But there aren't a ton of those guys out

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:21pm

This is the assumption

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 25, 3:33pm

It’s got nothing to do with sentimentality. Team culture is gonna struggle if

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 3:25pm

💯 when I read some of these posts it’s like guys have never played team

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:56pm

We have a few 2K GMs on here who don't contemplate fit in the system or culture

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 11:57pm

I think we'd be very hard pressed to get a better player than Hall

BYU Fan

Mar 25, 3:26pm

My biggest issue with Hall is the way he runs the offense. He struggles to not want to dribble a lot and the ball gets

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:59pm

Demin is great in the open cour. Hall is much better in the half court and with

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:50pm

I disagree

scherbie

Mar 25, 3:15pm

That is a very risky move given Hall’s position as a leader and veteran guy

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 3:20pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hall enter the portal to see what else is out there for him regardless of

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 4:02pm

Do you watch the games? Hall is the primary PG in crunch time and when we have

johnnybyu

Mar 25, 10:38pm

Give Pope credit, he was able to go get 10 guys willing

bald man

Mar 25, 3:07pm

Pope?

BYUMizzou

Mar 25, 3:07pm

Guys that don't start on their college team aren't getting paid much after

Lifer

Mar 25, 3:10pm

Hopefully we bring in guys that want the competition and believe they can start, whether they do or not

Remigius

Mar 25, 3:07pm

If they're freshmen or sophomores maybe they don't win the spot but feel like

Covid-19

Mar 25, 3:19pm

The biggest conundrum is they are still playing and may not know who all will leave

Littlerich

Mar 25, 3:09pm

I think the coaches have a very good idea.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:11pm

Hopefully they do. I wonder, though if some players decisions may depend on how far the team goes in the tourney

Littlerich

Mar 25, 3:19pm

The NIL budgeting has already started - they are VERY aware

VinnyBYU

Mar 25, 3:18pm

For every player, they can play themselves into minutes. Even baker could get

Cougarclaw

Mar 25, 3:11pm

So this is obviously true, but if you are trying to recruit the best players pitching them on getting some

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:17pm

Which is why somebody like Whalin is appealing to me. He could backup 3 or 4 spots potentially and he

mokelembembe

Mar 25, 3:15pm

So I kept saying no on Wahlin over and over because guys thought he would be a starter for us or replace Mag or

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:20pm

Didn't realize Pinkman above basically said the same thing. But yeah, so correct..it needed to be said twice for Archaea

mokelembembe

Mar 25, 3:24pm

That is an absolutely horrible pitch to Whalin. If I'm him, that pitch isn't

Lance71

Mar 25, 3:57pm

And therein lies the rub.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 4:34pm

That's not the pitch, that's how I view him. The pitch would be we're losing 3 starters...best man wins those jobs

mokelembembe

Mar 25, 4:43pm

Careful, a few posters will crucify you for suggesting this!

puntersarepeople

Mar 25, 3:17pm

Apparently.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:21pm

BYU's conundrum is not knowing what we need right now

BYU Fan

Mar 25, 3:19pm

I think the coaching staff has a very good idea on what they need. The guy who is probably the most unknown would

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 3:25pm

I don't think Richie will be impressive in work outs. That's just not his game.

Lance71

Mar 25, 3:59pm

I don't think Richie leaves, but the biggest part of the workouts that scouts are looking at will be

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 4:03pm

Because of the money, people with one year of eligibility

Plato

Mar 25, 3:20pm

We need a starting SG, a 5 to share minutes and a PG to share minutes.

kotacoug

Mar 25, 4:04pm

Except just like this season, last year starters are not guaranteed to

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 4:27pm

It is hard to take you seriously.

kimdaddy35

Mar 25, 5:00pm

Try harder. Meanwhile admit the point. The best players will start. Nobody is

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 6:20pm

How many games did knell start in the tournament? Maybe both. Maybe none

Cougarbib

Mar 25, 6:22pm

I think that's a very narrow and limiting way to view it...

icecougar

Mar 25, 8:45pm

I don’t think it’s as bleak as you say.

D.T. Survivor

Mar 25, 9:18pm

Nobody's spots are safe. Yeah AJ will start. Saunders will likely start

archie

Mar 25, 10:36pm

On the flip side of that...

pittsburghcoug

Mar 25, 11:52pm

You guys crack me up. Who knows what we will need until we see what everyone

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 12:00pm

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