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If you were the most influential person in Egor Demin's life

dultso

Mar 30, 3:17pm

BYU, obviously

Gustav

Mar 30, 3:18pm

If he’s lottery, NBA. No way can you pass up that kind of money.

Texas_forever

Mar 30, 3:25pm

Unless you decide money isn’t the most important thing. I’m not saying the NBA

gwalker

Mar 30, 3:39pm

There are strong arguments that over the course of his career he has potential

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:45pm

Exactly. This is where my thoughts on it changed

dultso

Mar 30, 3:57pm

If you could quantify it, how much $$ is an NCAA ring worth? Not valued

dultso

Mar 30, 3:41pm

Jumping from 15th pick to 5th pick basically doubles your money

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:42pm

That is a very valid point. Hmm…

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:44pm

Right now the noise is that he's around 10

krindorr

Mar 30, 7:56pm

I’ve seen more in the 14-18 range

arcawley

Mar 30, 9:14pm

I was seeing that a month ago, but his play really picked up recently

krindorr

Mar 31, 6:50am

If BYU boosters can match his $4~6M salary for this next NBA season

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:27pm

Still have to consider that it delays getting to the second (and third)

chilawcoug

Mar 30, 3:31pm

Comparing last year’s draft class, this year’s class makes more money

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:36pm

Yes, but the point is that staying one more year in college doesn't equate

chilawcoug

Mar 30, 3:39pm

I see what you mean. If BYU boosters can match next year’s salary, then

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:43pm

But it's not a wash...

Darthcookies

Mar 30, 4:29pm

Yes the fact that the NBA stinks at developing talent

ABCoug

Mar 30, 5:43pm

The year to compare with is his last year playing

lukeskywalker

Mar 30, 7:38pm

Or staying improves the probably of getting to a second or third contract

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:46pm

This is what my advice would be.

hamaca

Mar 30, 4:11pm

If he's lottery he should go

TLCougar

Mar 30, 3:28pm

Yesterday I would have agreed with you, but after giving it more thought

dultso

Mar 30, 3:33pm

Yeah, only upper lottery, he has alot of developement yet and long term needs

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:39pm

If he already has his UVU girlfriend, then NBA. Otherwise, stay to get one.

BigGulps

Mar 30, 3:32pm

He has a BYU girlfriend, and that's a reason to stay, not a reason to go.

Threw and Through

Mar 30, 6:01pm

Why does he have to wait a year to marry his girlfriend?

Cooouuugs

Mar 30, 6:09pm

Because he is 19 and really young to get married. People develop a lot at those

johnnybyu

Mar 30, 7:04pm

It was a joke.

BigGulps

Mar 31, 11:14am

Return - I'd want what would be best for BYU.

lightmann

Mar 30, 3:32pm

The assumption of lottery pick is questionable but even if I would say BYU even

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:37pm

Objectively if lottery I am forced to advise him to go.

Mitty

Mar 30, 3:53pm

ABCoug had a great point: if he can go from 9~12 back to 3 or 4, salary doubles.

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 4:04pm

And for multiple years

ABCoug

Mar 30, 5:44pm

True but next year's draft is deeper and I'm not really sure how he markedly improves his draft stock

krindorr

Mar 30, 8:10pm

RE: True but next year's draft is deeper and I'm not really sure how he markedly

ABCoug

Mar 30, 8:15pm

On the surface, this seems like the objective and safe answer

dultso

Mar 30, 4:05pm

Agree with most others. Lottery is a no brainer.

Resurgens

Mar 30, 4:59pm

Pre-NIL this would be the case due to risk of catostrophic loss potential

ABCoug

Mar 30, 5:48pm

If he has a first round grade he should go.

ThatBYUFan

Mar 30, 5:21pm

Why?

USCougar04

Mar 30, 6:29pm

Injury or poor performance. Team dynamics may have issues next year

johnnybyu

Mar 30, 7:07pm

I might agree if Demin didn't already have experience in the system

dultso

Mar 30, 7:24pm

Thats litterally the only risks and its pretty low because he is already in the

ABCoug

Mar 30, 8:17pm

Demin is the exception not the rule

USCougar04

Mar 30, 5:49pm

In the NIL world it makes little sense for him to leave with where he is at IMHO

ABCoug

Mar 30, 6:01pm

If I were an influential person in his life I would try to not influence him but

Schultz is back

Mar 30, 6:25pm

When I was in HS I quit the golf team to take an after-school job. My golf coach

deljdc

Mar 30, 7:13pm

Good advice

johnnybyu

Mar 30, 7:28pm

Its like shaving your head when you can grow hair

ABCoug

Mar 30, 8:18pm

Here's the biggest issue with that logic - the advice I'd give him would never have gotten him here to begin with

krindorr

Mar 30, 8:07pm

I said this all along. Money is not the most important thing. Crazy to me how many CBers think it is.

Haysom Till

Mar 30, 8:44pm

And the money totals are going to be alot more complex than at first look

ABCoug

Mar 30, 9:57pm

Counterpoint is weve been conditioned for years by these athletes themselves

Mitty

Mar 30, 10:10pm

RE: If you were the most influential person in Egor Demin's life

icecougar

Mar 30, 8:51pm

If I were the most influential person in Egor's life....I'd be a girl. A female

jaba166

Mar 30, 9:18pm

what % of projected lottery picks choose to stay in school another year? 0%?

Hill4Heisman

Mar 30, 10:53pm

I would listen to him and hear what he's thinking and feeling.

Mark

Mar 30, 11:17pm

If he gets paid by NIL how he should, I would absolutely tell him to stay

East_is_up

Mar 31, 4:00am

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