Yeah, only upper lottery, he has alot of developement yet and long term needs

Mar 30, 2025
3:39:47pm

ABCoug Intervention Needed

the practice and playing time now, not the travelling grind and pressure of the late lotto pick.

NIL money significantly mitigates the risk of ending up nothing due to injury / bad luck on play.

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If you were the most influential person in Egor Demin's life

dultso

Mar 30, 3:17pm

BYU, obviously

Gustav

Mar 30, 3:18pm

If he’s lottery, NBA. No way can you pass up that kind of money.

Texas_forever

Mar 30, 3:25pm

Unless you decide money isn’t the most important thing. I’m not saying the NBA

gwalker

Mar 30, 3:39pm

There are strong arguments that over the course of his career he has potential

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:45pm

Exactly. This is where my thoughts on it changed

dultso

Mar 30, 3:57pm

If you could quantify it, how much $$ is an NCAA ring worth? Not valued

dultso

Mar 30, 3:41pm

Jumping from 15th pick to 5th pick basically doubles your money

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:42pm

That is a very valid point. Hmm…

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:44pm

Right now the noise is that he's around 10

krindorr

Mar 30, 7:56pm

I’ve seen more in the 14-18 range

arcawley

Mar 30, 9:14pm

I was seeing that a month ago, but his play really picked up recently

krindorr

Mar 31, 6:50am

If BYU boosters can match his $4~6M salary for this next NBA season

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:27pm

Still have to consider that it delays getting to the second (and third)

chilawcoug

Mar 30, 3:31pm

Comparing last year’s draft class, this year’s class makes more money

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:36pm

Yes, but the point is that staying one more year in college doesn't equate

chilawcoug

Mar 30, 3:39pm

I see what you mean. If BYU boosters can match next year’s salary, then

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 3:43pm

But it's not a wash...

Darthcookies

Mar 30, 4:29pm

Yes the fact that the NBA stinks at developing talent

ABCoug

Mar 30, 5:43pm

The year to compare with is his last year playing

lukeskywalker

Mar 30, 7:38pm

Or staying improves the probably of getting to a second or third contract

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:46pm

This is what my advice would be.

hamaca

Mar 30, 4:11pm

If he's lottery he should go

TLCougar

Mar 30, 3:28pm

Yesterday I would have agreed with you, but after giving it more thought

dultso

Mar 30, 3:33pm

Yeah, only upper lottery, he has alot of developement yet and long term needs

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:39pm

If he already has his UVU girlfriend, then NBA. Otherwise, stay to get one.

BigGulps

Mar 30, 3:32pm

He has a BYU girlfriend, and that's a reason to stay, not a reason to go.

Threw and Through

Mar 30, 6:01pm

Why does he have to wait a year to marry his girlfriend?

Cooouuugs

Mar 30, 6:09pm

Because he is 19 and really young to get married. People develop a lot at those

johnnybyu

Mar 30, 7:04pm

It was a joke.

BigGulps

Mar 31, 11:14am

Return - I'd want what would be best for BYU.

lightmann

Mar 30, 3:32pm

The assumption of lottery pick is questionable but even if I would say BYU even

ABCoug

Mar 30, 3:37pm

Objectively if lottery I am forced to advise him to go.

Mitty

Mar 30, 3:53pm

ABCoug had a great point: if he can go from 9~12 back to 3 or 4, salary doubles.

BYUHgrad

Mar 30, 4:04pm

And for multiple years

ABCoug

Mar 30, 5:44pm

True but next year's draft is deeper and I'm not really sure how he markedly improves his draft stock

krindorr

Mar 30, 8:10pm

RE: True but next year's draft is deeper and I'm not really sure how he markedly

ABCoug

Mar 30, 8:15pm

On the surface, this seems like the objective and safe answer

dultso

Mar 30, 4:05pm

Agree with most others. Lottery is a no brainer.

Resurgens

Mar 30, 4:59pm

Pre-NIL this would be the case due to risk of catostrophic loss potential

ABCoug

Mar 30, 5:48pm

If he has a first round grade he should go.

ThatBYUFan

Mar 30, 5:21pm

Why?

USCougar04

Mar 30, 6:29pm

Injury or poor performance. Team dynamics may have issues next year

johnnybyu

Mar 30, 7:07pm

I might agree if Demin didn't already have experience in the system

dultso

Mar 30, 7:24pm

Thats litterally the only risks and its pretty low because he is already in the

ABCoug

Mar 30, 8:17pm

Demin is the exception not the rule

USCougar04

Mar 30, 5:49pm

In the NIL world it makes little sense for him to leave with where he is at IMHO

ABCoug

Mar 30, 6:01pm

If I were an influential person in his life I would try to not influence him but

Schultz is back

Mar 30, 6:25pm

When I was in HS I quit the golf team to take an after-school job. My golf coach

deljdc

Mar 30, 7:13pm

Good advice

johnnybyu

Mar 30, 7:28pm

Its like shaving your head when you can grow hair

ABCoug

Mar 30, 8:18pm

Here's the biggest issue with that logic - the advice I'd give him would never have gotten him here to begin with

krindorr

Mar 30, 8:07pm

I said this all along. Money is not the most important thing. Crazy to me how many CBers think it is.

Haysom Till

Mar 30, 8:44pm

And the money totals are going to be alot more complex than at first look

ABCoug

Mar 30, 9:57pm

Counterpoint is weve been conditioned for years by these athletes themselves

Mitty

Mar 30, 10:10pm

RE: If you were the most influential person in Egor Demin's life

icecougar

Mar 30, 8:51pm

If I were the most influential person in Egor's life....I'd be a girl. A female

jaba166

Mar 30, 9:18pm

what % of projected lottery picks choose to stay in school another year? 0%?

Hill4Heisman

Mar 30, 10:53pm

I would listen to him and hear what he's thinking and feeling.

Mark

Mar 30, 11:17pm

If he gets paid by NIL how he should, I would absolutely tell him to stay

East_is_up

Mar 31, 4:00am

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