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Jan 2, 2025
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SoCalCoug
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It knocked him completely off his feet.
Sorry. You're just not in reality.
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If that hit in the Texas-Arizona State game was not targeting, what is?
BYUFootballRocks1
All-American
Jan 2, 8:19am
It has to be forcible contact. Not "any contact".
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 8:26am
Everybody knows knocking a guy nearly unconscious isn't forcible contact
Goliath
Jan 2, 8:27am
So the player running into the contact isn’t “forcible”?
Yukon
Jan 2, 8:28am
Every tackle has forcible contact. In order for it to be a foul it has to be forcible contact
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 8:31am
Maybe I am not remembering correctly but I recall
BYU Fan
Jan 2, 8:53am
you just argued against your own point
Count Cougar
Jan 2, 9:53am
No, I didn't. The rules specify where forcible contact is and isn't allowed on a defenseless player
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 9:55am
He lowered his helmet and smacked the ASU guy in the head knocking him senseless
BYU Fan
Jan 2, 10:02am
He didn't lower his helmet.
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 10:09am
I disagree
BYU Fan
Jan 2, 11:06am
yes I agree that natural tackling includes lowering the head as part of lowering
cwilke1
Jan 2, 11:11am
The NCAA rulebook defines lowering the helmet as making contact with the crown of the helmet,
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 11:11am
if was your son, you would say it was targeting
Count Cougar
Jan 2, 10:03am
I think there is a good chance it was targeting.
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 10:12am
If after a nights sleep Skep. O. still has this take, it’s not worth debating it
Crowd Factor
Jan 2, 8:31am
Ok, then don't debate it.
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 8:33am
He's head snapping back isn't "forcible"?
byubyu
Jan 2, 8:29am
It WAS forcible contact, he sprinted for 10 yards and slammed into the receiver...
BYUFootballRocks1
Jan 2, 8:30am
Did the defender “lead” with the helmet to create the forcible contact though.
cougaman
Jan 2, 8:32am
well the 4th possible indicator is "initiating forcible contact with the crown
cwilke1
Jan 2, 8:37am
The “lead” part is what I was focusing on though. He’s making a form tackle
cougaman
Jan 2, 8:43am
its plausible to interpret it the way you are, but our body of actual referee
cwilke1
Jan 2, 8:48am
I’ve seen plays that I thought were worse go uncalled plenty, where it seemed
cougaman
Jan 2, 8:51am
It certainly would be interesting to see a video montage of plays called
cwilke1
Jan 2, 9:08am
I’ve seen so many that were players crouching, thrusting, leading with their
cougaman
Jan 2, 9:18am
espn scott helton and their rules expert afterwards on sportscenter said they
cwilke1
Jan 2, 9:24am
"lead" with the helmet? He met him face-to-face with his helmet -
BYUFootballRocks1
Jan 2, 8:41am
That’s not close to what I said and you clearly don’t want to try to understand
cougaman
Jan 2, 8:45am
Head to head was the first contact.
SoCalCoug
Jan 2, 8:46am
He’s trying to wrap him up and use his arms to make the tackle though, his head
cougaman
Jan 2, 8:50am
You're being irrational in your defense of a horrible non-call.
SoCalCoug
Jan 2, 8:51am
No, I’m not. Because I disagree with you doesn’t make me irrational.
cougaman
Jan 2, 9:36am
No, it doesn't. It's because you're not reasonably interpreting the rule or
SoCalCoug
Jan 2, 12:47pm
And you must be the authority on what’s reasonable. Maybe we call all be as
cougaman
Jan 2, 1:45pm
Now you're being reasonable.
SoCalCoug
Jan 2, 2:03pm
the first contact was head to head and it was with the crown.
FieroCoug
Jan 2, 1:49pm
Not by the ncaas definition of the crown
cougaman
Jan 2, 3:01pm
Not even close
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 3:17pm
6 inch circle from the top of the head right? if that’s what it is it
FieroCoug
Jan 2, 3:42pm
Sprinting 10 yards and slamming into the receiver isn't a foul - that happens on just about every
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 8:37am
baloney-he hit him in the head! wondering if just you're trying to be contrary -
BYUFootballRocks1
Jan 2, 8:42am
I'm not trying to be contrary. I'm not even arguing that it was the correct call.
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 9:58am
he slams him in the face with his helmet at top speed and it's not targeting? got it...
BYUFootballRocks1
Jan 2, 8:44am
playing word games is not the proper answer
Count Cougar
Jan 2, 8:31am
The verbatim text of the rule isn't a word game. The OP was wrong when he said that any contact
Skeptical Optimist
Jan 2, 8:35am
It knocked him completely off his feet.
SoCalCoug
Jan 2, 8:45am
When the refs pick up a flag like that after review
Goliath
Jan 2, 8:29am
I don’t think they threw a flag
cougaman
Jan 2, 8:32am
I don’t think they threw a flag
Beggar
Jan 2, 8:33am
Not only did they NOT throw a flag, the review was initiated by the “booth”
Endocoug
Jan 2, 8:41am
The refs didn't say "no targeting". They simply didn't throw a flag.
Goliath
Jan 2, 1:04pm
Im no expert but it seems like they’ve changed
I'mBatman
Jan 2, 8:41am
I didn't think it was targeting because the crown of the helmet wasn't used
Coug
Jan 2, 8:45am
"crown of the helmet" isn't a thing on a defenseless player.
Ghost of Peanut
Jan 2, 9:00am
It is one of the four “things”
Endocoug
Jan 2, 9:03am
None of the four indicators are required for defenseless players.
BYUCLA
Jan 2, 9:27am
That's not true. Read the rule. It specifically says an indicator is required.
Radioactive Coug
Jan 2, 9:32am
I edited my post right after I posted and realized I was wrong but must not have
BYUCLA
Jan 2, 9:59am
someone posted the rule yesterday and rule said that there still has to be 1
cwilke1
Jan 2, 9:33am
Great points. Watching the game and play live, it was clearly targeting by the
Mitty
Jan 2, 10:32am
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