I am stating that it wasn't a good throw. No indictment. He would admit it was not a good throw.

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My unofficial Retzlaff roundup / SWOT analysis.

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:14am

Pretty good analysis. Another threat is injury.

ForzaPuma

12/30/24 8:20am

Man, I hope you’re right. I would love to see his TD/INT improve as season goes

MrSandman

12/30/24 8:22am

This is the best and most fair evaluation of Jake I've seen on here.

Rise Against

12/30/24 8:23am

RE: This is the best and most fair evaluation of Jake I've seen on here.

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:36am

RE: This is the best and most fair evaluation of Jake I've seen on here.

Brisco

12/30/24 11:31am

Retzlaff might be here 3 more seasons. Imagine that.

Cougarbib

12/30/24 9:56am

Great analysis. I along with some

BYU71

12/30/24 8:29am

My biggest concern is that he seemed to regress as the season went on

spinner

12/30/24 8:30am

Part of that was due to injury right?

Nuke

12/30/24 8:34am

Based on what A Rod said last night, a lot of it - if not most - was due to

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:35am

I don’t buy it - his decision making seemed to regress too

spinner

12/30/24 8:42am

And he was 100% healthy for the bowl game

foofcoug

12/30/24 8:43am

But candidly, we don't know that - we were lead to believe he was healthy

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:51am

If you play injuries aren’t an excuse. Especially the int in the end zone.

Baron

12/30/24 8:54am

I agree in theory, but in practice lots of high T athletes oversell how

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:10am

It highlight his poor decision making. Retzlaff is good enough to start next year but not good enough for coaches to

Baron

12/30/24 9:18am

Then explain the Colorado performance. They said he was as healthy as preseason

MrSandman

12/30/24 9:40am

I don't think there's much to explain- two bad decisions. He made two bad

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:54am

The first throw to Marion was also a bad throw. A good throw and it is an easy catch. Marion

Baron

12/30/24 9:59am

Could had thrown it more in stride, but should had been an easy catch

viper

12/30/24 10:45am

Or in a way that doesn't make the receiver have to turn around and come to a stop basically.

Baron

12/30/24 10:50am

He had to slow down, but a 35 yard pass, thrown with touch, bounced off WR chest

viper

12/30/24 11:06am

I am stating that it wasn't a good throw. No indictment. He would admit it was not a good throw.

Baron

12/30/24 11:34am

You said it was a bad throw. I feel it was at least an ok throw, but yeah, not

viper

12/30/24 11:41am

And to follow up, your question is really answered in the OP.

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:58am

I guess I don’t totally buy into his “health” was reason he played poorly as

MrSandman

12/30/24 3:04pm

Yep. That fully explains our D not showing up until giving up 3 straight TD

Cougarbib

12/30/24 5:17pm

I agree that this is a concern - I think there are a number of factors, one that

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:35am

Obviously that could be part of it

spinner

12/30/24 8:40am

One argument for the apparent regression is that he played the best defenses at

Rise Against

12/30/24 8:35am

Which may have been because of nagging

DizzyDean

12/30/24 8:37am

Exactly - I worry more that his reads seemed to be worse later in the season

spinner

12/30/24 8:45am

Think about what u said. He just led an 11-2 season with 9 P4 wins. Even with

Cougarbib

12/30/24 10:02am

Part of me thinks that the issue is that many fans expect 54 to 7 type wins. The kind we had back in the day when we

HarlemCoug

12/30/24 10:12am

Our performance in the WAC days and NCAA Madden have created a false

Rise Against

12/30/24 10:15am

I think batted balls in the Utah game was a function of the defensive line advancing too far up field

kccougar

12/30/24 8:34am

Playing a 3rd string center against one of the best defensive fronts in the

Rise Against

12/30/24 8:37am

A full off-season of being the guy may help

Projectoor

12/30/24 8:40am

The shovel pass int was not his fault. It is not a read. In fact, he can't watch it or else it's not effective

darkcoug

12/30/24 8:43am

Sure maybe bad luck stunt, but it's still a read. He COULD absolutely see there

jtm0001

12/30/24 10:20am

It's not a no look pass. Yes, he has to sell it, but it's not blind

whoneedscorners?

12/30/24 11:47am

One weakness I would add is the inability to adjust touch consistently based on

MwangoleCoug9

12/30/24 8:48am

I've seen some of that, OTOH - at least four perfect underneath touch throws on

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:20am

Don’t forget that soft touch pass to Parker on that middle WR screen

MacGyver

12/30/24 9:37am

That's right, there were at least five on target touch passes completed

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:49am

He is very poor on deep throws and touch passes. See it time and again

BYU '80

12/30/24 10:13am

On the threats, Arod made maybe a prophetic statement at the beginning of ..

icecougar

12/30/24 10:15am

THX Ox, that was great!

LDTemplar

12/30/24 10:35am

He also said 'I've never believed in anyone more than I believe in Jake'

oxcoug

12/30/24 10:43am

The erratic accuracy is what concerns me the most

cougarBee

12/30/24 11:07am

good review

mindzeYe

12/30/24 11:35am

Mostly agree. I don't believe he "has all the throws". Corner fade is not in his bag. And any sort of over the top, drop

BlooGeek

12/30/24 12:42pm

If someone asks me for a SWOT analysis on Retzlaff, I will plagiarize this. Thx.

RoboKayne

12/30/24 6:39pm

He's good but needs work. Needs to improve touch throws and

Coug Dude

12/30/24 8:35pm

Confident he’ll get better. We saw a step function improvement last year to this

Hammurabi

12/30/24 10:47pm

Can make all the throws- not fades!!!!

775coug

12/31/24 3:16pm

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