I agree that this is a concern - I think there are a number of factors, one that

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Dec 30, 2024
8:35:08am

oxcoug Truly Addicted User

I agree that this is a concern - I think there are a number of factors, one that

we now know but didn't is that he was playing hurt for most of November. CB wasn't wrong when they saw him hanging that shoulder after running down the INT return.

Staying healthy in 2025 will be a top priority and he's going to need to be coached into more slides to not take hits.

We saw a jump in progression last year in the first half of the season and I think there is good reason to assume we see that again.

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My unofficial Retzlaff roundup / SWOT analysis.

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:14am

Pretty good analysis. Another threat is injury.

ForzaPuma

12/30/24 8:20am

Man, I hope you’re right. I would love to see his TD/INT improve as season goes

MrSandman

12/30/24 8:22am

This is the best and most fair evaluation of Jake I've seen on here.

12/30/24 8:23am

RE: This is the best and most fair evaluation of Jake I've seen on here.

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:36am

RE: This is the best and most fair evaluation of Jake I've seen on here.

Brisco

12/30/24 11:31am

Great analysis. I along with some

BYU71

12/30/24 8:29am

My biggest concern is that he seemed to regress as the season went on

spinner

12/30/24 8:30am

Part of that was due to injury right?

Nuke

12/30/24 8:34am

Based on what A Rod said last night, a lot of it - if not most - was due to

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:35am

I don’t buy it - his decision making seemed to regress too

spinner

12/30/24 8:42am

And he was 100% healthy for the bowl game

foofcoug

12/30/24 8:43am

But candidly, we don't know that - we were lead to believe he was healthy

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:51am

If you play injuries aren’t an excuse. Especially the int in the end zone.

Baron

12/30/24 8:54am

I agree in theory, but in practice lots of high T athletes oversell how

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:10am

It highlight his poor decision making. Retzlaff is good enough to start next year but not good enough for coaches to

Baron

12/30/24 9:18am

Then explain the Colorado performance. They said he was as healthy as preseason

MrSandman

12/30/24 9:40am

I don't think there's much to explain- two bad decisions. He made two bad

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:54am

The first throw to Marion was also a bad throw. A good throw and it is an easy catch. Marion

Baron

12/30/24 9:59am

Could had thrown it more in stride, but should had been an easy catch

viper

12/30/24 10:45am

Or in a way that doesn't make the receiver have to turn around and come to a stop basically.

Baron

12/30/24 10:50am

He had to slow down, but a 35 yard pass, thrown with touch, bounced off WR chest

viper

12/30/24 11:06am

I am stating that it wasn't a good throw. No indictment. He would admit it was not a good throw.

Baron

12/30/24 11:34am

You said it was a bad throw. I feel it was at least an ok throw, but yeah, not

viper

12/30/24 11:41am

And to follow up, your question is really answered in the OP.

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:58am

I guess I don’t totally buy into his “health” was reason he played poorly as

MrSandman

12/30/24 3:04pm

I agree that this is a concern - I think there are a number of factors, one that

oxcoug

12/30/24 8:35am

Obviously that could be part of it

spinner

12/30/24 8:40am

One argument for the apparent regression is that he played the best defenses at

12/30/24 8:35am

Which may have been because of nagging

DizzyDean

12/30/24 8:37am

Exactly - I worry more that his reads seemed to be worse later in the season

spinner

12/30/24 8:45am

I think batted balls in the Utah game was a function of the defensive line advancing too far up field

kccougar

12/30/24 8:34am

Playing a 3rd string center against one of the best defensive fronts in the

12/30/24 8:37am

A full off-season of being the guy may help

Projectoor

12/30/24 8:40am

The shovel pass int was not his fault. It is not a read. In fact, he can't watch it or else it's not effective

darkcoug

12/30/24 8:43am

Sure maybe bad luck stunt, but it's still a read. He COULD absolutely see there

jtm0001

12/30/24 10:20am

It's not a no look pass. Yes, he has to sell it, but it's not blind

whoneedscorners?

12/30/24 11:47am

One weakness I would add is the inability to adjust touch consistently based on

12/30/24 8:48am

I've seen some of that, OTOH - at least four perfect underneath touch throws on

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:20am

Don’t forget that soft touch pass to Parker on that middle WR screen

MacGyver

12/30/24 9:37am

That's right, there were at least five on target touch passes completed

oxcoug

12/30/24 9:49am

He is very poor on deep throws and touch passes. See it time and again

BYU '80

12/30/24 10:13am

On the threats, Arod made maybe a prophetic statement at the beginning of ..

icecougar

12/30/24 10:15am

THX Ox, that was great!

LDTemplar

12/30/24 10:35am

He also said 'I've never believed in anyone more than I believe in Jake'

oxcoug

12/30/24 10:43am

The erratic accuracy is what concerns me the most

cougarBee

12/30/24 11:07am

good review

mindzeYe

12/30/24 11:35am

Mostly agree. I don't believe he "has all the throws". Corner fade is not in his bag. And any sort of over the top, drop

BlooGeek

12/30/24 12:42pm

If someone asks me for a SWOT analysis on Retzlaff, I will plagiarize this. Thx.

RoboKayne

12/30/24 6:39pm

He's good but needs work. Needs to improve touch throws and

Coug Dude

12/30/24 8:35pm

Confident he’ll get better. We saw a step function improvement last year to this

Hammurabi

12/30/24 10:47pm

Can make all the throws- not fades!!!!

775coug

12/31/24 3:16pm

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