Aside from generational talents, NFL QB success is much more strongly correlated

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Sep 8, 2024
5:43:00pm

ldssdl Truly Addicted User

Aside from generational talents, NFL QB success is much more strongly correlated

to their situation than their raw capabilities.

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I think Broncos would have had a better chance with Stidham, let alone Zach

Sep 8, 5:34pm

It baffles me that other teams haven’t learned from what Green Bay has done.

ldssdl

Sep 8, 5:37pm

That ain’t it either. That was a terrible use of draft capital

TCuz

Sep 8, 5:40pm

Aside from generational talents, NFL QB success is much more strongly correlated

ldssdl

Sep 8, 5:43pm

Oh, no. It’s the exact opposite. The great QBs overcome “bad situations”

TCuz

Sep 8, 5:46pm

He was not that good a few years ago.

Sep 8, 5:45pm

The literal only thing that changed is he got to play and get better.

TCuz

Sep 8, 5:48pm

I don't know how good he would have been as rookie but

Sep 8, 6:19pm

And the Packers know how to send quarterbacks to the HOF.

Sep 8, 5:42pm

Unless you draft a huge project, you absolutely play your rookie. Almost every elite QB in the NFL started day one

Sep 8, 5:57pm

The likely 2 greatest ever didn't, Brady and Mahomes.

maYbe

Sep 8, 6:25pm

Mahomes is the one outlier and Brady started back when rookies sat. Every other elite guy in the NFL started in year one

Sep 8, 6:28pm

Brady was a 7th rd draft pick who didn’t start until Bledsoe got hurt?

ldssdl

Sep 8, 6:34pm

Brady was a late round pick who was most definitely sitting behind Drew Bledsoe

Corn Pop

Sep 8, 6:37pm

So you’re saying he was a huge project? Is that the takeaway here? Rookies didn’t start 20 years ago. They do now. Using

Sep 8, 6:43pm

I'm not the one that brought up Brady, you did. And FTR, Brady tossed a single

Corn Pop

Sep 8, 6:53pm

Read the thread, I didn’t bring up Brady first. But you can’t say, “look at past generations, they turned out better

Sep 8, 7:07pm

Really? Not Mahomes. Not Rodgers. Not Brady. Not Brees. Not Lamar. Not Allen…

DC15

Sep 8, 7:27pm

Mahomes is the only modern exception. Allen and Lamar both started as rookies, and your earliest example besides them

Sep 8, 9:07pm

You said, “started day one” and were incorrect, most greats were backups day 1.

DC15

Sep 8, 10:37pm

We’re arguing semantics here. Read through my posts and I’ve been saying play year one. You’re right, I said “day one”

Sep 9, 7:53am

Stidham agrees with you

WJCougar

Sep 8, 6:05pm

He's probably right.

Sep 8, 6:21pm

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