Individual words can be very important when you are trying to argue a point. "BUT he also"

Jun 4, 2024
3:08:44pm

CSoul Hardcore Democrat

What does that mean in the context of my sentence? He was successful because of the preceding things, BUT he was also the recipient of some luck.

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Tesla sending NVidia AI chips to xAI, not going to Tesla.

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 2:06pm

Here is the problem with Elon as a long term CEO vs being a Chief Innovation Officer (which he should be). He

CSoul

Jun 4, 2:17pm

That seems reasonable

TNT

Jun 4, 2:27pm

Self driving is being slow-rolled by the government in the name of safety.

Tio

Jun 4, 2:33pm

No, it's not close to ready, and that's not just a government defined pronouncement

CSoul

Jun 4, 2:34pm

What other company has self driving cars? I'll wait.

Tio

Jun 4, 2:56pm

Self Driving with full government approval to drive anywhere? Zero!

Tio

Jun 4, 2:58pm

Squirrel!

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:06pm

Are you sure it was luck that got him where he's at?

Skeptical Optimist

Jun 4, 2:39pm

Individual words can be very important when you are trying to argue a point. "BUT he also"

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:08pm

Taking advantage of government incentives isn't luck.

Skeptical Optimist

Jun 4, 3:15pm

Uh, yes it is luck to be at that point of time. It wasn't luck to take advantage of it. I'm a business owner myself

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:19pm

An interesting analysis. Has your decreased opinion of musk corresponded with

EQD2

Jun 4, 2:18pm

RE: An interesting analysis. Has your decreased opinion of musk corresponded

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 2:48pm

? Underdelivered by what measure?

Swish

Jun 4, 2:28pm

Bots still own twitter, and we're nowhere close to his timelines for walking on

joelvandyne

Jun 4, 2:30pm

😂 SpaceX has done more in under 20 years for space travel than NASA in 80!

Tio

Jun 4, 2:45pm

SpaceX is doing some great things but...NASA landed 6 separate missions on the moon, sent 24 astronauts to the moon,

durandal

Jun 4, 2:52pm

Are you high? Apollo 11 was less than 80 years ago.

joelvandyne

Jun 4, 2:53pm

Look up "List of crewed Mars mission plans" on wiki and update your response.

Tio

Jun 4, 3:05pm

That's not a promise with a date.

joelvandyne

Jun 4, 3:14pm

Exactly. Modern NASA is a complete mess, but Space X can't hold a candle to the accomplishments of the literal

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:16pm

That’s nice if you’re picking an all time space team winner. For today space x

Swish

Jun 4, 5:51pm

Isn't that what I said? I also said I love space x.

CSoul

Jun 4, 7:24pm

I have one linked example, but pretty much every major promise. Self-driving, Tesla semi, roadster, solar panels

CSoul

Jun 4, 2:32pm

Name me one innovator who isn't off on their predictions. He's breaking new...

Tio

Jun 4, 2:55pm

Their is being off on predictions. . . and then their is fraud and straight lies

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 3:13pm

This is the lame equivalency argument that people use in business and politics to defend the person

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:13pm

Have you driven with fsd? It’s amazing. No one else is anywhere close.

Swish

Jun 4, 5:52pm

Yes, it's cool. Has tons of limitations. Doesn't have many safety benefits over stopping and lane assist.

CSoul

Jun 4, 7:23pm

FSD is awesome. . . I would say it is too good to ignore.

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 7:54pm

It will grow exponentially in capability. It’s the worse it will ever be right

Swish

Jun 4, 7:56pm

Elon's been saying that for 8 years. . .

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 9:51pm

Quick example from each company

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 3:10pm

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