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Jun 4, 2024
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Skeptical Optimist
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Are you sure it was luck that got him where he's at?
Those government incentives were available to anybody who could design, build, and market EVs. Musk is the only person who built a $550 Billion company from nothing from those incentives.
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Tesla sending NVidia AI chips to xAI, not going to Tesla.
Zoobieman
Jun 4, 2:06pm
Here is the problem with Elon as a long term CEO vs being a Chief Innovation Officer (which he should be). He
CSoul
Jun 4, 2:17pm
That seems reasonable
TNT
Jun 4, 2:27pm
Self driving is being slow-rolled by the government in the name of safety.
Tio
Jun 4, 2:33pm
No, it's not close to ready, and that's not just a government defined pronouncement
CSoul
Jun 4, 2:34pm
What other company has self driving cars? I'll wait.
Tio
Jun 4, 2:56pm
Self Driving with full government approval to drive anywhere? Zero!
Tio
Jun 4, 2:58pm
Squirrel!
CSoul
Jun 4, 3:06pm
Are you sure it was luck that got him where he's at?
Skeptical Optimist
Jun 4, 2:39pm
Individual words can be very important when you are trying to argue a point. "BUT he also"
CSoul
Jun 4, 3:08pm
Taking advantage of government incentives isn't luck.
Skeptical Optimist
Jun 4, 3:15pm
Uh, yes it is luck to be at that point of time. It wasn't luck to take advantage of it. I'm a business owner myself
CSoul
Jun 4, 3:19pm
An interesting analysis. Has your decreased opinion of musk corresponded with
EQD2
Jun 4, 2:18pm
RE: An interesting analysis. Has your decreased opinion of musk corresponded
Zoobieman
Jun 4, 2:48pm
? Underdelivered by what measure?
Swish
Jun 4, 2:28pm
Bots still own twitter, and we're nowhere close to his timelines for walking on
joelvandyne
Jun 4, 2:30pm
😂 SpaceX has done more in under 20 years for space travel than NASA in 80!
Tio
Jun 4, 2:45pm
SpaceX is doing some great things but...NASA landed 6 separate missions on the moon, sent 24 astronauts to the moon,
durandal
Jun 4, 2:52pm
Are you high? Apollo 11 was less than 80 years ago.
joelvandyne
Jun 4, 2:53pm
Look up "List of crewed Mars mission plans" on wiki and update your response.
Tio
Jun 4, 3:05pm
That's not a promise with a date.
joelvandyne
Jun 4, 3:14pm
Exactly. Modern NASA is a complete mess, but Space X can't hold a candle to the accomplishments of the literal
CSoul
Jun 4, 3:16pm
That’s nice if you’re picking an all time space team winner. For today space x
Swish
Jun 4, 5:51pm
Isn't that what I said? I also said I love space x.
CSoul
Jun 4, 7:24pm
I have one linked example, but pretty much every major promise. Self-driving, Tesla semi, roadster, solar panels
CSoul
Jun 4, 2:32pm
Name me one innovator who isn't off on their predictions. He's breaking new...
Tio
Jun 4, 2:55pm
Their is being off on predictions. . . and then their is fraud and straight lies
Zoobieman
Jun 4, 3:13pm
This is the lame equivalency argument that people use in business and politics to defend the person
CSoul
Jun 4, 3:13pm
Have you driven with fsd? It’s amazing. No one else is anywhere close.
Swish
Jun 4, 5:52pm
Yes, it's cool. Has tons of limitations. Doesn't have many safety benefits over stopping and lane assist.
CSoul
Jun 4, 7:23pm
FSD is awesome. . . I would say it is too good to ignore.
Zoobieman
Jun 4, 7:54pm
It will grow exponentially in capability. It’s the worse it will ever be right
Swish
Jun 4, 7:56pm
Elon's been saying that for 8 years. . .
Zoobieman
Jun 4, 9:51pm
Quick example from each company
Zoobieman
Jun 4, 3:10pm
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