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Apr 17, 2024
9:04:42pm

oryguncoug All-American

Kalani is really likeable. Average coach. Honestly BYU football would be much

better off with Jay Hill as HC IMO despite your obvious disagreement there.

With Kalani at the helm I think ceiling is not that high. I foresee lots of 5-7 to 8-4 seasons (8-4 seasons being least common) with a great win here and there and repeated head scratching losses every year.

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I don't get all the Kalani hate

4/17/24 1:14pm

His floor is low, and his ceiling is low sans Covid year. Not that hard to understand.

Haysom Till

4/17/24 1:15pm

KS will be as good as the coaches he surrounds himself with. Great person & BYU guy.

Soupie

4/17/24 1:15pm

This describes LaVell as well. I love Kalani and feel good about his staff

WallaX2

4/17/24 1:19pm

You just described what every HC should be.

ManicBlue

4/17/24 1:40pm

Yes but the caveat of surrounding himself with best hasn't always been the case.

Soupie

4/17/24 2:10pm

I agree but now? I like the current staff. Calling for a wholesale change now is just stupid IMO.

ManicBlue

4/17/24 2:11pm

Yes which was my point. The hate seems to be based on a situation that no longer exists but he needs to get it done now.

Soupie

4/17/24 2:30pm

RE: Yes which was my point. The hate seems to be based on a situation that no longer exists but he needs to get it done

ManicBlue

4/17/24 3:25pm

And at least 10 who did. Whatever NBD

Soupie

4/17/24 3:26pm

So, he's like every coach. K.

Benfica1

4/17/24 1:56pm

Not at all. Great head coaches elevate the performances of those around them.

ldssdl

4/17/24 2:53pm

Why pay a head coach millions if he can't augment the performance of his

ldssdl

4/17/24 2:52pm

Kalani is not a great leader of leaders. Not really even good at it. I love most other things about him. Great dude

Blue2thebone

4/17/24 3:53pm

Nobody hates Kalani. Lots of people think BYU could easily find a better coach.

Superkid

4/17/24 1:17pm

Bingo. Giant mansion and exotic car guy (gal?) for the win

TNT

4/17/24 1:19pm

I used to think we couldn’t get better, but the way we ponied up for Young makes

4/17/24 1:25pm

And some think BYU should and could do better but it wouldn't be easy

4/17/24 1:37pm

Easily? Who?

ManicBlue

4/17/24 2:17pm

Nick Saban ring a bell?

JohnnyComeLately

4/17/24 4:35pm

Your first sentence is much more describable of how fans feel than is hate.

Bullrider

4/17/24 1:17pm

He's a bad coach. See: fake punting on 4th and 20. Twice.

Mitty

4/17/24 1:18pm

Serious question. Is that enough to condemn a HC(not specifically KS) for?

palangi

4/17/24 1:25pm

To me it's inexcusable. It shows a complete lack of control of the program and

Mitty

4/17/24 1:26pm

RE: To me it's inexcusable. It shows a complete lack of control of the program and

darkcoug

4/17/24 1:39pm

he is a disorganized fun and nice guy who doesnt know how to run the team

Deleted

4/17/24 1:19pm

What is kalani good at. And by good I mean better than mediocre. The only thing I am sure of is garnering support

shimmy

4/17/24 1:20pm

He probably does it because of this:

DubuMfalme

4/17/24 1:23pm

Kalani is a great ambassador and a great guy. Unfortunately they don't give us

Roy D Mercer

4/17/24 1:25pm

Lazy recruiter, bad X's and O's guy, too many poor seasons

HairyCougar

4/17/24 1:20pm

He is a lazy recruiter. Half the team is from schools an hour from campus.

TexDaddy

4/17/24 1:21pm

not a lazy recruiter. lets compare him and whitt. I've heard the pukes have a

BYURider

4/17/24 1:48pm

Kalani is an exceptional person and that goes a long way

2FarGone

4/17/24 1:21pm

So, a sweet spirit?

TexDaddy

4/17/24 1:22pm

I love Kalani. No hate here. Dude will get us into place. He just needs good

Don Carlton

4/17/24 1:24pm

People just like to hate. Always needs to be a scapegoat. I am on team Kalani.

spidercoug

4/17/24 1:24pm

But he IS a bad coach - way below average. He simply doesn't have the capacity

TeeKaa

4/17/24 1:26pm

Jay Hill is a non-starter, but you’re all in on Darrell Bevell?

Ham

4/17/24 1:26pm

We need to win. If he wins, great. If he doesn't, we need to move on.

RenoCoug

4/17/24 1:27pm

Your own description of Kalani is literally the definition of a mediocre HC. The

TheMediator

4/17/24 1:28pm

No hate here, but the trend since 2020 is obvious.

HuskerFan2

4/17/24 1:28pm

You don't think SOS could have something to do with that trend (especially 2020

RGGeemer

4/17/24 1:52pm

Perhaps. But if BYU only wins 3-5 games in 2024 is SOS going to be the main thing that fans are discussing?

HuskerFan2

4/17/24 2:05pm

We'll win 6+

RGGeemer

4/17/24 2:10pm

I hope you're right.

HuskerFan2

4/17/24 2:14pm

Good dude that just doesn’t win enough games. That’s the bottom line.

Squirt

4/17/24 1:32pm

I like him but I think he makes bad decisions and takes too long to correct them

AltTabbins

4/17/24 1:35pm

If TNT hears "we will have to watch the film" one more time......aiieeeeeeeeeeee

TNT

4/17/24 1:36pm

First fallacy: People hate Kalani. Nobody hates Kalani that I know of. Nobody

kimdaddy35

4/17/24 1:40pm

THIS^^^

TheMediator

4/17/24 4:14pm

It’s an important season for him

I'mBatman

4/17/24 1:41pm

We lost four games by at least 4 TDs last year - 3 of which should have

4/17/24 1:43pm

Those hurt. Just blown off of the field

TNT

4/17/24 1:44pm

TCU and Iowa State were completely inexcusable. Then blowing a multi score lead

Kajdin

4/17/24 1:46pm

2020-2022 was a really good stretch

RGGeemer

4/17/24 1:51pm

2022 was not good. We beat Baylor (overrated) and it was pretty much downhill

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 2:03pm

It has been hard to get back on the Kalani train since that Liberty 2022 loss. WV 2023 was also very hard to take. Among

4/17/24 7:00pm

20 was against depleted high schools. Zero credit for that year.

TeeKaa

4/17/24 2:13pm

Like Navy, Houston, UCF, etc?

RGGeemer

4/17/24 2:29pm

Three teams that combined to go 12-17? Yes

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 2:48pm

UCF was very good that year, certainly not a 'depleted high school team'.

RGGeemer

4/17/24 2:55pm

I think the point is that BYU played no P5 teams that year. It was a complete G5

BYUfannonLDS

4/17/24 3:31pm

Mediocre including those. terrible without them. I enjoyed 2020, but it was not

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 4:06pm

Agreed. It was a weak schedule

BYUfannonLDS

4/17/24 4:21pm

6-4 is not "very good" and Houston was below average

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 4:02pm

Names mean nothing

TeeKaa

4/17/24 3:29pm

CB is full of morons. It's easy to scapegoat a coach or player than to delve

Benfica1

4/17/24 1:55pm

Oh heck ya. TNT does. It's all he has

TNT

4/17/24 3:13pm

I wouldn't call it hate. It's more like unmet expectations.

Eggguy

4/17/24 2:00pm

I love kalani. He is not a P4 head coach imo. My hope is in his assistants right the ship. My fear is a repeat of 2023

byuTX

4/17/24 2:16pm

Haters gonna hate. That's all it is.

4/17/24 2:57pm

This is the first year in forever that none of my friends want to travel to an

sunjieming

4/17/24 3:11pm

He has the team woefully underprepared too often. Schematically, strategically, emotionally, and/or physically. He’s not

Haysom Till

4/17/24 3:17pm

You described what KS is: an average HC. Most of us like Kalani & root for his

Forzaitalia

4/17/24 3:35pm

We are fortunate to have Coach Sitake

MadHawaiian

4/17/24 3:49pm

CB was around back then?

BaseCoug

4/17/24 10:45pm

I love Kalani the man. And wasn't ready to move on until last year. There were

BYUHawk

4/17/24 3:50pm

Pulled it together at the end to lose 5 in a row lol

byuTX

4/17/24 4:16pm

That is kind of funny that I forgot that important detail. But the team looked

BYUHawk

4/17/24 4:42pm

I actually agree they looked better the last two games FWIW. Only a D1 QB away from a decent year

byuTX

4/17/24 7:02pm

One of the biggest frustrations has been recruiting.

JJP

4/17/24 4:27pm

Wrong. There has been a Big 12 bump and he has recruited better than his

donnerstag

4/17/24 4:47pm

Big 12 bump seems like the Jay Hill bump. Offense did not do near as well as D

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 4:51pm

If you're using the rankings as your measure, it's a flawed measure

donnerstag

4/17/24 5:07pm

Ummm... then why do the schools that get better classes also do better at

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 5:53pm

Because they are getting 4 and 5 star recruits

donnerstag

4/17/24 7:39pm

RE: Wrong. There has been a Big 12 bump and he has recruited better than his

JJP

4/18/24 8:27am

I LOVE KALANI AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM

gocougs719

4/17/24 4:47pm

Agreed. One year in b12 after years in independence and associated economics and coaches. Look at the coaches he’s

Hammurabi

4/17/24 4:54pm

Kalani is really likeable. Average coach. Honestly BYU football would be much

oryguncoug

4/17/24 9:04pm

Kalani does not drive a recruiting culture. Half the team is from Utah schools.

TexDaddy

4/18/24 10:08am

...while only a third of the BYU student body comes from Utah.

TexDaddy

4/18/24 10:09am

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