Don't run the ball every first down, when it fails don't double down on second and on third pass the ball instead of ...

Oct 25, 2023
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three tips for arod

Kale

10/25/23 7:28am

RE: three tips for arod

PJMort

10/25/23 7:31am

Bonus tip: you don’t have to run up the middle for little to no gain

Beggar

10/25/23 7:36am

The CB offensive playbook: on every third down, every receiver needs to run

BYUheaven

10/25/23 7:39am

BYU doesn’t do it and their third down conversion % is abysmal

Beggar

10/25/23 7:40am

It’s the type of play under the marker not running a route under the marker

BYUheaven

10/25/23 7:50am

Yep maybe it's because the defense plays to keep everything in front of the

johnnybyu

10/25/23 7:45am

CB as a collective might be a better OC tbh

Deleted

10/25/23 7:51am

They don't all need to go past it. But all at least need to get to it.

Cougzilla

10/25/23 8:01am

RE: They don't all need to go past it. But all at least need to get to it.

BYUheaven

10/25/23 8:26am

Can you expound?

Cougzilla

10/25/23 8:52am

RE: Can you expound?

BYUheaven

10/25/23 9:02am

I agree with this given that the play is designed for the ball to be caught

Cougzilla

10/25/23 9:13am

The problem is that the defender is at the sticks and the receiver has to adjust

BYUheaven

10/25/23 9:19am

I agree but I also think thats a different argument than we can or should

Cougzilla

10/25/23 9:37am

By this logic OCs should never call a run play on 3rd down. You guys are simply geniuses.

kccougar

10/25/23 8:46am

How often should they call a run on 3rd and 10?

Cougzilla

10/25/23 8:51am

C'mon kccougar, I'm waiting for my lesson. How often should we run on 3 and 10?

Cougzilla

10/25/23 9:40am

12%

kccougar

10/25/23 9:42am

Is that also what you pay for tithing? just kidding.

Cougzilla

10/25/23 10:07am

If the goal is to score a TD we should just run all plays to the endzone. Then

johnnybyu

10/25/23 9:02am

From what I've heard the stats actually disagree with this

puntersarepeople

10/25/23 11:33pm

Signed, Wilson to Milne on the drag route just behind the line of scrimmage that went for a first down all the time.

valcorger

10/25/23 10:38am

So if the QB takes the check down, that's ARod's fault?

inertiaman

10/25/23 7:40am

Why give him that option? Might as well punt on third down

Beggar

10/25/23 7:42am

ding ding ding

Kale

10/25/23 7:43am

so you don't get sacked and lose yards or worse, throw a pic or fumble

fulano

10/25/23 7:48am

Because of spacing. Receivers spread the defense.

Belboz

10/25/23 8:27am

Spacing and the ability to break a tackle or two.

TheLoneCougar

10/25/23 9:12am

That's not how it works 🤦🏻‍♂️

whoneedscorners?

10/25/23 9:36am

Neither is how they’re doing it

Beggar

10/25/23 9:53am

They did it the same way the last two years and were perfectly fine.

puntersarepeople

10/25/23 11:35pm

Depending on the situation it makes sense to take the check down.

royal_blue

10/25/23 9:56am

Ridiculous comment as a checkdown can often gain yards to set up for a FG or

puntersarepeople

10/25/23 11:35pm

Even the check down should be past the marker.

Soupie

10/25/23 7:45am

Wrong

BYUheaven

10/25/23 7:46am

LOL. There are some real geniuses on this board. there is a reason that routes

fulano

10/25/23 7:52am

There are also some people here with zero sense of humor or sarcasm.

Soupie

10/25/23 7:56am

Sorry soupie, didn’t pick up the sarcasm. We are in a thread where people

BYUheaven

10/25/23 7:59am

if you were sarcastically saying that, I missed it. My bad

fulano

10/25/23 8:10am

CB geniuses. SMH.

kccougar

10/25/23 8:19am

Is the check down the RB coming out of the back field? If not, then it's on ARod

Cougzilla

10/25/23 8:03am

Remember guys, it’s all about having the right player.

Malcolm Reynolds

10/25/23 7:45am

It's ok to throw a slant over the middle

WhirleyPop

10/25/23 7:45am

This is the correct answer. It’s ok to throw a third down play underneath the

BYUheaven

10/25/23 7:49am

Risk aversion. Throws in the middle of the field are more susceptible to INT

Doogal McCougar

10/25/23 8:43am

Yep. Our offense definitely plays it safe and tries to win the turnover margin

BYUheaven

10/25/23 8:46am

This is the yewt offense, not Lavell's, unfortunately

vegas guey

10/25/23 9:07am

Yes to both above

theonick

10/25/23 12:14pm

Whitt doesn't throw it anywhere near 60% of the time historically

puntersarepeople

10/25/23 1:23pm

Something so obvious deserves a POTD. Obviously to everyone but ARod

TNT

10/25/23 7:55am

I think I could count on zero fingers the number of times ARod called a slant

Strawhat4life

10/25/23 8:21am

He ran one to Epps last week that picked up 10+ yards. Never threw it again

Beggar

10/25/23 9:13am

TCU should've taught him that.

RenoCoug

10/25/23 10:25pm

The defense playing to keep everything in front of the sticks probably affects

johnnybyu

10/25/23 7:47am

And don't be foolish by trying to set up the passing game with a strong rushing

BlueFever

10/25/23 7:51am

With Robbins looking healthy I think we have a strong rushing game. Looked good

NYC and Japan

10/25/23 8:22am

I didn't notice, but Texas isn't the team to test a heavy run game with.

BlueFever

10/25/23 8:33am

RE: three tips for arod

Kilgore Trout

10/25/23 7:57am

Don't run a speed option to the short side of the field

ldssdl

10/25/23 7:59am

Don't run it with Slovis

Plato

10/25/23 8:17am

Thank you Sherlock.

canofpicante

10/25/23 8:05am

RE: three tips for arod

Hooda88

10/25/23 8:16am

moknowssports, we found your seatmate!

kccougar

10/25/23 8:17am

Posting history: kale has an axe to grind with coaches?

Brandoblueblood

10/25/23 8:20am

Here's the problem though...

runnincoug

10/25/23 8:22am

Of course the D will leave them open there. The sideline is a defensive barrier. Space for YAC is bigger issue.

Soupie

10/25/23 9:41am

yeah, if you throw short, you've gotta do it with room to maneuver.

runnincoug

10/25/23 9:54am

This is why we should do double moves and go way beyond the sticks. Yes, it's

RUNBYU1

10/25/23 1:59pm

I'd be down for that too. Route running hasn't been good thus far for WRs.

runnincoug

10/25/23 2:10pm

So many third down throws to a receiver short of the first down marker

Belboz

10/25/23 8:26am

One thing at a time - 3 suggestions at once can discourage anyone

Agaricus

10/25/23 8:41am

Shallow crosses can be an excellent way to convert on 3rd & Long

CaliWG

10/25/23 9:04am

This, and the crossing route behind the LOS allows the other receivers to block downfield.

valcorger

10/25/23 10:44am

Don't run the ball every first down, when it fails don't double down on second and on third pass the ball instead of ...

BYU Grounds

10/25/23 9:36am

^^^^ This!

BleedCougarBlue2

10/25/23 9:44am

So, location, location, location?

Shabwak

10/25/23 9:38am

This will work particularly well with our offense when we are in a manageable

dfudge

10/25/23 10:14am

Tip for Arod. CB apparently knows more than you. Just read this thread from

OldFogey

10/25/23 10:23am

RE: three tips for arod

Mississippi

10/25/23 10:28am

I take it you’ve never played football?

chazen

10/25/23 11:04am

You're just exposing your lack of Xs and Os knowledge, not ARods

puntersarepeople

10/25/23 11:33am

I'm just happy to not turn it over or get a pick 6.

kiyoshige

10/25/23 11:55am

#4 stop with runs/passes that go horizontal. We never are fast enough

SwanSong

10/25/23 12:01pm

Like the first step to winning is scoring more points than the other team duh

NonmormonYfan89

10/25/23 12:44pm

Very wise...

Oompabluepaw

10/25/23 1:13pm

This might be one of the best posts on CB in months

zerome4sooners

10/25/23 2:24pm

RE: This might be one of the best posts on CB in months

OldFogey

10/25/23 2:29pm

Three tips

CrimsonCardinal

10/25/23 2:59pm

RE: three tips for arod

Big McLargeHuge

10/25/23 3:22pm

Mmmm. Tri-tip.

byujdmba

10/26/23 10:12am

RE: three tips for arod

cougar?er

10/26/23 4:57pm

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