Developing HS talent into really good college players is the real challenge.

Jan 28, 2016
3:55:52pm

FrontLineFan All-American

Scheme and getting HS stars is great but the best programs have coaches that can best teach the fundamental skills of football. Turning HS talent into college level talent is the real work that defines coaching greatness.

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maybe recruiting really is #1 over EVERYTHING else

nashty

1/28/16 3:45pm

Coaching will only take you so far if you don't have talented players

KingDave

1/28/16 3:49pm

And talent will only take you so far if you're a moron as a coach

FiveTen-BuckEighty

1/28/16 3:51pm

That describes Lane Kiffin

KingDave

1/28/16 3:59pm

You are completely wrong, Kiffin is well regarded as a brilliant offensive

Helm Hammerhand

1/28/16 5:22pm

As OC, yes. HC...that's a different story (which was probably KingDave's point).

BYUHgrad

1/28/16 5:57pm

You could say the same thing about Crowton.

SoValleyCOUG

1/28/16 9:02pm

How many National Championships did Crowton coach an offense in or win? Crowton

Helm Hammerhand

1/28/16 9:13pm

Gary won a NC at LSU, did you miss that?

CarolinaCoug

1/29/16 11:58am

Kiffins been to a lot more and won more, did you miss that?

Helm Hammerhand

1/29/16 2:10pm

I lol at these back and forths the worse they get. Thank you, never change.

Reasonable1

1/29/16 2:19pm

Sounds like Dave Rice at UNLV (but not a moron)

Bubba Gravity

1/28/16 4:35pm

Not sure the talent at UNLV is as good as people think it is

Turnpike Lane

1/28/16 4:41pm

Are you kidding??? #1 overall draft pick, several other NBA 1 & dones

LVCougarFan

1/28/16 8:04pm

Uhhh, actually superior talent will take you very far, and even cover up

Kerbouchard

1/28/16 10:21pm

i said something wise a long time ago:

riboflavin

1/28/16 3:52pm

Uhhh, pretty sure that wasn't you.

Reasonable1

1/28/16 3:55pm

There are also coaches that get great recruits that don't do much, but for the

Dillinger

1/28/16 3:51pm

will muschamp is apparently one of these guys.

riboflavin

1/28/16 3:52pm

Both are critical. There is no excuse for Broncos

Y'zFan

1/28/16 3:53pm

Developing HS talent into really good college players is the real challenge.

FrontLineFan

1/28/16 3:55pm

i actually think kalani has a good record of putting guys in the league.

riboflavin

1/28/16 3:57pm

Sitake has clearly still done some of that.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 3:56pm

bingo.

mindzeYe

1/28/16 11:21pm

Just an FYI, our new OC thinks he's gonna have to coach his players to

Left Shark Coug

1/28/16 4:04pm

I was waiting for someone to bring up the "top 25 class" stuff.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:14pm

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I believe Bronco was very effective

RalphWiggam

1/28/16 4:19pm

His problem was getting guys with a higher

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:24pm

He was great using Crowtons recruits

Flyingdolphin

1/28/16 4:25pm

Big catch though is that recruiting success depends a lot on winning. I think

QBarrister

1/28/16 4:28pm

why then did we destroy texas 2 years in a row when they have superior talent?

DoidoCougar

1/28/16 4:29pm

We had Taysom's superior talent, that was more superior than anyone they had

RaggaeCoug

1/28/16 4:33pm

Texas was a mess. That wasn't just Hill.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:37pm

The same Taysom Hill, who by the way, was NOT recruited out of High School

TheLoneCougar

1/28/16 9:02pm

Players win games....

nitroboy

1/28/16 7:02pm

Agreed. Its no surprise that the NC teams always have high recruiting classes.

RaggaeCoug

1/28/16 4:31pm

With the HC in place, can we improve recruiting enough to make a big difference?

jkccoug

1/28/16 4:35pm

Yes. To make it to championship caliber? No.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:38pm

James Fraklin at Penn State wishes this was the case.

CougarinOZ

1/28/16 6:12pm

Some coaches squeeze out more talent than others (Harbaugh, Meyer)

Ulysses14

1/28/16 6:50pm

Two words: Ron Zook...

(Private)

1/28/16 7:15pm

I think a close 2nd is...

icecougar

1/28/16 8:51pm

amen

mindzeYe

1/28/16 11:23pm

Lot of truth to that. Saban is considered best coach, but he doesn't out scheme

SoValleyCOUG

1/28/16 9:00pm

There is a game predictor where the guy filled out his entire bracket before the

jkccoug

1/28/16 9:16pm

Of course it is. Anyone that knows anything about CFB says so.

Kerbouchard

1/28/16 10:19pm

Any coach would win more games with Bama's recruits. Some coaches might just win

Tuskaloosa Cougar

1/28/16 10:57pm

this is a rather simplistic explanation.

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