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I kinda dread the day we get a new stadium.

The Y's Insider

Oct 31, 11:12am

I don't understand why people think we need a new one.

BYUnerd

Oct 31, 11:12am

Yup, doesn't make any sense. Any increase in revenue is negated by the cost to build a stadium.

ManicBlue

Oct 31, 11:16am

Not if it’s all paid for by donors. Infinite ROI for BYU itself.

mulletino

Oct 31, 11:20am

Are you going to pony up the $1B for a new stadium? You'd rather those $$$ go to a new stadium that's not needed instead

ManicBlue

Oct 31, 11:40am

I don't really care. Wouldn't be my money. And having a sick stadium is more than just 6 games a year.

mulletino

Oct 31, 12:03pm

smh ...

ManicBlue

Oct 31, 12:58pm

What did I say exactly beyond what's envisioned in your head? I didn't say build some Jerry Dome. That's on you.

mulletino

Oct 31, 1:34pm

Your mind does go in "interesting" directions. I'm not "riled up" at all. Just trying to bring you back to reality. I

ManicBlue

Oct 31, 1:40pm

Yeah, our Church that spends billions on a mall and temples is going to be so against building a new, up-to-date

mulletino

Oct 31, 1:45pm

Your comparison is not even close to being valid. smh

ManicBlue

Oct 31, 2:01pm

The Marriott Center is probably among some of the best college basketball arenas in the country. Largely due to

mulletino

Oct 31, 2:10pm

Marriott Center and LES aren't really comparable for BYU

NYC and Japan

Oct 31, 2:35pm

BYU uses the stadium literally 7 or 8 times a year for public events, 9 every

NYC and Japan

Oct 31, 12:59pm

Yet will still have to be rebuilt completely at some point regardless. But sure, I guess never update it then.

mulletino

Oct 31, 1:34pm

Who said never update it? Not I. Not anyone here. You said more than 6 games/yr

NYC and Japan

Oct 31, 2:42pm

A "sick" stadium doesn't have to cost $1B. That's your own imagination on what "sick" means. BYU's back drop is sick

mulletino

Oct 31, 2:46pm

Yep, I agreed that there will likely be a rebuild. Unlike to do anything that

NYC and Japan

Oct 31, 3:01pm

Sick is BYU football on the field with the mountain views. The stands and stadium can be greatly upgraded/updated.

mulletino

Oct 31, 3:29pm

And it funds the entire athletic department and is an enormous marketing arm for the school and the Church.

mulletino

Oct 31, 2:39pm

we need it because large donors want luxury boxes. I don't want a new one, but if we get a new one it's because donors

HarlemCoug

Oct 31, 3:16pm

We're already largest in the Big12. We need to expand stadium for inevitable B1G invite that we've snatched from Utes

CLCougar

Oct 31, 11:28am

SEC invite. But close enough.

unctoothman

Oct 31, 12:29pm

SEC has shown no interest to expand geographical footprint to the west

NYC and Japan

Oct 31, 1:06pm

Because parts of it are sinking already and there are several “soft” spots in the structure

runningryan

Oct 31, 11:31am

What I know is that the dimensions of the risers were built for people 5'9" and smaller. The bleacher numbers

PJMort

Oct 31, 4:26pm

Don't need a new stadium... just need the East and West stands rebuilt

Coug

Oct 31, 11:13am

Won’t work

runningryan

Oct 31, 11:28am

With current precast and cast in place options. They could tear down and rebuild

Millhouse

Oct 31, 11:44am

Soil stabilization usually needs to happen when the ground is thawed

runningryan

Oct 31, 11:51am

Yes that’s true. It likely would cost a lot more. There are also a variety of

Millhouse

Oct 31, 11:58am

The stone columns run 20 feet deep so the ground needs to be thawed

runningryan

Oct 31, 3:56pm

They could do bundles of micro piles. They can be installed directionally in

Millhouse

Oct 31, 5:24pm

Only 20'? I'm surprised they're not 40' at least.

BleedCougarBlue2

Oct 31, 6:37pm

Frost rarely exceeds 18 inches in depth in Utah County.

Trappist1F

Oct 31, 2:02pm

Nah. With ground thaw machines they can easily build all winter.

Cosmos-beard-card

Oct 31, 7:11pm

Good point. Is the soil across the street under the big lot any more stable?

BackPacker

Oct 31, 12:16pm

One alternative is to use the parking lots (by the Zions Bank) by the practice fields

runningryan

Oct 31, 4:00pm

Ooh. That's interesting. Would have to buy out that little business complex.

BackPacker

Oct 31, 4:23pm

Those are old buildings and the medical school wouldn’t take the whole Provo High campus

runningryan

Oct 31, 5:05pm

What do you mean by "unstable"?

Trappist1F

Oct 31, 1:05pm

This is exactly what I was going to say

BlooGeek

Oct 31, 4:04pm

Look at the edge supports of the press boxes

runningryan

Oct 31, 4:11pm

You underestimate the engineering and design we are capable of. If they wanted

Millhouse

Oct 31, 5:30pm

Fair point. I am not an engineer.

runningryan

Oct 31, 9:10pm

This would be my choice. New press box, upper deck, club level, boxes,

Ski-U-Mah

Oct 31, 5:03pm

This financial future will happen with or without a new stadium.

Florwood

Oct 31, 11:15am

"I'm sad that die-hard fans will be further pushed" - already happened

WJCougar

Oct 31, 11:16am

"further"

Ted Lasso

Oct 31, 11:59am

I think the stadium will be revamped but will not be replaced.

WallaX2

Oct 31, 11:17am

I wouldn’t worry about this too much. You’ll be 95.

Sandstone Cougar

Oct 31, 11:17am

Tear down the old provo high school and build it there

CougarGuy84

Oct 31, 11:17am

That's where the med school is going.

cmoney

Oct 31, 11:18am

Build it on top of the medical school.

Florwood

Oct 31, 11:18am

Holy moley. AI finally pulling its weight

TNT

Oct 31, 2:19pm

Medical school won’t take up that much land

runningryan

Oct 31, 11:25am

Don’t confuse a medical school with a teaching hospital, think law school size.

germ1

Oct 31, 11:28am

Even if you imposed JRCB on that land there is a lot more left

runningryan

Oct 31, 11:32am

RE: Even if you imposed JRCB on that land there is a lot more left

runningryan

Oct 31, 11:39am

There isn't enough space there anyways. Needs parking around it as well.

mudpupper

Oct 31, 11:36am

Rebuild will probably happen in the parking lot directly west of the stadium.

Parker Schnabel

Oct 31, 11:38am

I get the sentiment, but stadiums don't last forever. Change is inevitable.

cmoney

Oct 31, 11:19am

LES was built on the cheap in a time when stadiums were utilitarian in nature

runningryan

Oct 31, 11:33am

Rock Canyon is nice and all, but I’ve already dreamed of building a massive stadium in Rock Canyon. The crowd noise

Sandstone Cougar

Oct 31, 11:27am

Gladiator arena vibe would be cool.

UCLACoug

Oct 31, 11:38am

I like the way you think!

BYU Grounds

Oct 31, 7:23pm

you are making some assumptions that I'm not sure are accurate. The capacity may

Mayor of Cougartown

Oct 31, 11:35am

Do this and we're good.

LifeLongLakerFan

Oct 31, 11:56am

Is there a legit structural reason why the stadium we have won't last?

VenomFarmer

Oct 31, 12:14pm

I just read running Ryan's kind of answered that.

VenomFarmer

Oct 31, 12:28pm

I have read somewhere that the structural integrity of the steel is only rated

WillsPitStop

Oct 31, 12:31pm

I wonder if The Church wants to upgrade BYU's stadium before the 2034 Olympics.

ldssdl

Oct 31, 12:18pm

What would it be used for? Opening and closing ceremonies are going to be

WillsPitStop

Oct 31, 12:28pm

I don't want a new stadium if it means losing seating capacity.

Mister P

Oct 31, 12:38pm

Is a new stadium being discussed? This is the first time hearing about it.

myfriendryan

Oct 31, 12:53pm

Only here on CB

YankeeCoug

Oct 31, 1:01pm

No. Not at all.

Sandstone Cougar

Oct 31, 2:03pm

Significant upgrades have been discussed at the highest levels. $ is there.

Thrill

Oct 31, 6:01pm

One thing I would want in a new stadium…

iknownothing

Oct 31, 1:32pm

New Stadium has been in the works for years. It's gonna be awesome!

Tio

Oct 31, 2:15pm

I have been dreading everything all the time. C'est la vie. Everything is always

RoboKayne

Oct 31, 2:37pm

Many families have already been priced out.

Lifer

Oct 31, 3:32pm

I love LES. It is iconic. Some upgrades will enhance the experience.

swanfam

Oct 31, 3:39pm

RE: I kinda dread the day we get a new stadium.

Sofaj

Oct 31, 3:43pm

With BYU athletics operating in the black, maybe they don't need to sell their soul to the corporate devils?

TheLoneCougar

Oct 31, 4:00pm

Why do you think we NEED to? Notre Dame seems fine. Michigan seems fine.

COACHdrn

Oct 31, 4:01pm

Both those stadiums were built using concrete and rebar which can be replaced in sections

runningryan

Oct 31, 4:15pm

UM spent $250M adding a new press box, 83 luxury suites, and 3200 club seats

Ski-U-Mah

Oct 31, 5:12pm

Both have upgraded significantly

Thrill

Oct 31, 6:03pm

I just want chairs and not benches.

Boring

Oct 31, 4:49pm

Get real. The Church isn't going to build an entirely new stadium. They'll just

IronPotato

Oct 31, 6:12pm

The Church wouldn’t do it. Private donor funds would.

Thrill

Oct 31, 11:16pm

Won’t happen in my lifetime

BYU Grounds

Oct 31, 7:16pm

Needs to happen. It’s an ugly stadium with beautiful views. Will help with

Magneto

Oct 31, 7:52pm

The U ruined their stalim

CougarWildcat

Oct 31, 11:02pm

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