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Oct 31, 2024
11:28:32am

runningryan Pretend Athletic Director

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The soil those stands sit on isn’t stable. Hence why they are made of lightweight steel. To have everything they want they will need to build the structures out of concrete which means the soil needs to be stabilized with stone columns and pile rods. The stadium doesn’t comply with current seismic codes. Tearing down and rebuilding would take too much time.

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runningryan

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Last login: Oct 31, 2024
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I kinda dread the day we get a new stadium.

The Y's Insider

11:12am

I don't understand why people think we need a new one.

BYUnerd

11:12am

Yup, doesn't make any sense. Any increase in revenue is negated by the cost to build a stadium.

ManicBlue

11:16am

Not if it’s all paid for by donors. Infinite ROI for BYU itself.

mulletino

11:20am

Are you going to pony up the $1B for a new stadium? You'd rather those $$$ go to a new stadium that's not needed instead

ManicBlue

11:40am

I don't really care. Wouldn't be my money. And having a sick stadium is more than just 6 games a year.

mulletino

12:03pm

smh ...

ManicBlue

12:58pm

What did I say exactly beyond what's envisioned in your head? I didn't say build some Jerry Dome. That's on you.

mulletino

1:34pm

Your mind does go in "interesting" directions. I'm not "riled up" at all. Just trying to bring you back to reality. I

ManicBlue

1:40pm

Yeah, our Church that spends billions on a mall and temples is going to be so against building a new, up-to-date

mulletino

1:45pm

Your comparison is not even close to being valid. smh

ManicBlue

2:01pm

The Marriott Center is probably among some of the best college basketball arenas in the country. Largely due to

mulletino

2:10pm

Marriott Center and LES aren't really comparable for BYU

NYC and Japan

2:35pm

BYU uses the stadium literally 7 or 8 times a year for public events, 9 every

NYC and Japan

12:59pm

Yet will still have to be rebuilt completely at some point regardless. But sure, I guess never update it then.

mulletino

1:34pm

Who said never update it? Not I. Not anyone here. You said more than 6 games/yr

NYC and Japan

2:42pm

A "sick" stadium doesn't have to cost $1B. That's your own imagination on what "sick" means. BYU's back drop is sick

mulletino

2:46pm

Yep, I agreed that there will likely be a rebuild. Unlike to do anything that

NYC and Japan

3:01pm

Sick is BYU football on the field with the mountain views. The stands and stadium can be greatly upgraded/updated.

mulletino

3:29pm

And it funds the entire athletic department and is an enormous marketing arm for the school and the Church.

mulletino

2:39pm

we need it because large donors want luxury boxes. I don't want a new one, but if we get a new one it's because donors

HarlemCoug

3:16pm

We're already largest in the Big12. We need to expand stadium for inevitable B1G invite that we've snatched from Utes

CLCougar

11:28am

SEC invite. But close enough.

unctoothman

12:29pm

SEC has shown no interest to expand geographical footprint to the west

NYC and Japan

1:06pm

Because parts of it are sinking already and there are several “soft” spots in the structure

runningryan

11:31am

What I know is that the dimensions of the risers were built for people 5'9" and smaller. The bleacher numbers

PJMort

4:26pm

Don't need a new stadium... just need the East and West stands rebuilt

Coug

11:13am

Won’t work

runningryan

11:28am

With current precast and cast in place options. They could tear down and rebuild

Millhouse

11:44am

Soil stabilization usually needs to happen when the ground is thawed

runningryan

11:51am

Yes that’s true. It likely would cost a lot more. There are also a variety of

Millhouse

11:58am

The stone columns run 20 feet deep so the ground needs to be thawed

runningryan

3:56pm

They could do bundles of micro piles. They can be installed directionally in

Millhouse

5:24pm

Only 20'? I'm surprised they're not 40' at least.

BleedCougarBlue2

6:37pm

Frost rarely exceeds 18 inches in depth in Utah County.

Trappist1F

2:02pm

Good point. Is the soil across the street under the big lot any more stable?

BackPacker

12:16pm

One alternative is to use the parking lots (by the Zions Bank) by the practice fields

runningryan

4:00pm

Ooh. That's interesting. Would have to buy out that little business complex.

BackPacker

4:23pm

Those are old buildings and the medical school wouldn’t take the whole Provo High campus

runningryan

5:05pm

What do you mean by "unstable"?

Trappist1F

1:05pm

This is exactly what I was going to say

BlooGeek

4:04pm

Look at the edge supports of the press boxes

runningryan

4:11pm

You underestimate the engineering and design we are capable of. If they wanted

Millhouse

5:30pm

This would be my choice. New press box, upper deck, club level, boxes,

Ski-U-Mah

5:03pm

This financial future will happen with or without a new stadium.

Florwood

11:15am

"I'm sad that die-hard fans will be further pushed" - already happened

WJCougar

11:16am

"further"

Ted Lasso

11:59am

I think the stadium will be revamped but will not be replaced.

WallaX2

11:17am

I wouldn’t worry about this too much. You’ll be 95.

Sandstone Cougar

11:17am

Tear down the old provo high school and build it there

CougarGuy84

11:17am

That's where the med school is going.

cmoney

11:18am

Build it on top of the medical school.

Florwood

11:18am

Holy moley. AI finally pulling its weight

TNT

2:19pm

Medical school won’t take up that much land

runningryan

11:25am

Don’t confuse a medical school with a teaching hospital, think law school size.

germ1

11:28am

Even if you imposed JRCB on that land there is a lot more left

runningryan

11:32am

RE: Even if you imposed JRCB on that land there is a lot more left

runningryan

11:39am

There isn't enough space there anyways. Needs parking around it as well.

mudpupper

11:36am

Rebuild will probably happen in the parking lot directly west of the stadium.

Parker Schnabel

11:38am

I get the sentiment, but stadiums don't last forever. Change is inevitable.

cmoney

11:19am

LES was built on the cheap in a time when stadiums were utilitarian in nature

runningryan

11:33am

Rock Canyon is nice and all, but I’ve already dreamed of building a massive stadium in Rock Canyon. The crowd noise

Sandstone Cougar

11:27am

Gladiator arena vibe would be cool.

UCLACoug

11:38am

you are making some assumptions that I'm not sure are accurate. The capacity may

Mayor of Cougartown

11:35am

Do this and we're good.

LifeLongLakerFan

11:56am

Is there a legit structural reason why the stadium we have won't last?

VenomFarmer

12:14pm

I just read running Ryan's kind of answered that.

VenomFarmer

12:28pm

I have read somewhere that the structural integrity of the steel is only rated

12:31pm

I wonder if The Church wants to upgrade BYU's stadium before the 2034 Olympics.

ldssdl

12:18pm

What would it be used for? Opening and closing ceremonies are going to be

12:28pm

I don't want a new stadium if it means losing seating capacity.

Mister P

12:38pm

Is a new stadium being discussed? This is the first time hearing about it.

myfriendryan

12:53pm

Only here on CB

YankeeCoug

1:01pm

No. Not at all.

Sandstone Cougar

2:03pm

Significant upgrades have been discussed at the highest levels. $ is there.

Thrill

6:01pm

One thing I would want in a new stadium…

iknownothing

1:32pm

New Stadium has been in the works for years. It's gonna be awesome!

Tio

2:15pm

I have been dreading everything all the time. C'est la vie. Everything is always

RoboKayne

2:37pm

Many families have already been priced out.

Lifer

3:32pm

I love LES. It is iconic. Some upgrades will enhance the experience.

swanfam

3:39pm

RE: I kinda dread the day we get a new stadium.

Sofaj

3:43pm

With BYU athletics operating in the black, maybe they don't need to sell their soul to the corporate devils?

4:00pm

Why do you think we NEED to? Notre Dame seems fine. Michigan seems fine.

COACHdrn

4:01pm

Both those stadiums were built using concrete and rebar which can be replaced in sections

runningryan

4:15pm

UM spent $250M adding a new press box, 83 luxury suites, and 3200 club seats

Ski-U-Mah

5:12pm

Both have upgraded significantly

Thrill

6:03pm

I just want chairs and not benches.

Boring

4:49pm

Get real. The Church isn't going to build an entirely new stadium. They'll just

IronPotato

6:12pm

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